[RWP] routing the metronome in reaper?

Fri Jul 22 20:55:14 EDT 2011

excellent.
Ok, I set the UM1G, which is the USB to midi interface I'm using.  I don't 
have midi out on the sound card, to clok out.  It wasn't turned on by 
default.

I connected Midi out on the UM1g box to the roland XP50, then connected the 
through jack on the xp50 to the input jack on the sr-16.
I now am getting the sr-16 to start at the right tempo when I hit play in 
reaper.
The metronome isn't turned on in the sr-16, so it is just using whatever 
drum preset/kit it is sitting on, but it's playing in sync with the 
sequence.
Do you remember how to turn on the metronome and set the  rhythm on the 
SR-16?
I've set the sr-16 to factory defaults by turning it on while holding the 
play and erase buttons.
Yes, the drum machine does have midi through-output.
So I suspect it isn't vital where it is in the chain as long as it is 
receiving clock info from reaper.
I haven't turned on the play back pre-count yet to see if clock info is sent 
at that point.
I have the sr16 manual in pdf, but as usual, it shows button press sequences 
in graphics, so I don't know what buttons to press to get into the metronome 
mode or how to set the rhythm/click sound etc.
thanks very much for the assistance.  I'm almost there finally.

regards
Colin
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: [RWP] routing the metronome in reaper?

> My Reaper is on another computer, so I don't know its specific wording, 
> but I think nothing would play in Reaper because external time 
> synchronization would make Reaper the slave, to be synchronized 
> externally, which you don't want in this case, since nothing is sending 
> midi clock to Reaper.
> There should be another Reaper setting to send out midi clock, but it 
> might be already on by default.
>
> These gadgets are either transmitters or receivers of synchronizing clock.
> I used a SR16 for years, and knew it completely, but now I forget whether 
> it has only a midi in, or maybe midi out and midi through as well.
> If it has midi through, you can put it in the midi chain ahead of your 
> keyboard, and all midi messages will be sent to the keyboard.
>
>
> On 7/22/2011 7:19 PM, colin McDonald wrote:
>> oh, I just remembered. I checked the box in the project settings window
>> to set external time syncronization or something like that...but when
>> that box is checked, nothing will play.
>> perhaps I have to turn on another setting though.
>> But I've got the jist of it now so I'll go back and play some more.
>>
>> regards
>> Colin
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 3:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] routing the metronome in reaper?
>>
>>
>>> I get to options in Reaper by hitting F6, then arrowing left to
>>> Options, then selecting preferences.
>>>
>>> I'm not quite sure where the setting for sending out midi clock, or
>>> midi time code, or midi sync, all names for the same thing, more or 
>>> less.
>>> When I'm looking for settings in Reaper's preferences, I go to the
>>> number pad in Winize, arrow down to a topic, like midi, then I go to
>>> the tab key and tab through the selections.
>>> I don't have any hardware gear synced to Reaper, so I don't know if
>>> midi clock out is the default setting for Reaper or not.
>>>
>>>
>>> Hope any of this helps,
>>> Indigo
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/22/2011 5:34 PM, Indigo wrote:
>>>> Reaper will send out midi time code from midi out jacks of your sound
>>>> card.
>>>> Just look in Reaper's options to be sure that midi time code, also
>>>> called midi clock, is being sent.
>>>> If you only have a single midi out jack on your sound card, and you are
>>>> already connecting that out jack to another piece of hardware gear, if
>>>> that gear has a midi through jack, connect the midi through to the midi
>>>> in jack of your SR16, and it will be synchronized to Reaper's tempo,
>>>> also to start and stop commands sent to Reaper.
>>>> To get a click from the SR16, for the drummer to hear, you can set the
>>>> SR16 to sound its metronome while it is either in play or record mode.
>>>> On 7/22/2011 4:53 PM, colin McDonald wrote:
>>>>> I don't know how to set and send a midi time code?
>>>>> any pointers?
>>>>> I'm really new at all the MIDI stuff, even though it's an old
>>>>> technology.
>>>>> Essentially, in QWS, this is what I think is happening.
>>>>> When the metronome in QWS is set to send out to the UM1g, it's
>>>>> transmitting a Midi time code to the SR16, which then plays that time
>>>>> code...you can set the MIDI key number in QWS as well to tell the SR16
>>>>> what kind of sound to play.
>>>>> I want to do this in reaper, but obviously I'll have to manually
>>>>> program
>>>>> the MIDI time code and put that into the sequence.
>>>>> Is this done using a Midi event or what?
>>>>> I understand that I need to create some sort of event, or something, 
>>>>> so
>>>>> that tempo and key number can be automatically sent out to the SR16
>>>>> from
>>>>> any midi file or sequence loaded into reaper.
>>>>> I could program this for each file as well if I had to. The idea is to
>>>>> have syncronized starts and stops, and automated tempo to the sr16 so
>>>>> that one can just hit the space bar in reaper, and the drummer gets a 
>>>>> 2
>>>>> bar preroll, at the correct tempo that matches the sequence file.
>>>>> any pointers on how to get started with a MIDI time code in reaper
>>>>> would
>>>>> be appreciated.
>>>>> I'd rather use the much more powerful reaper than quick windows
>>>>> sequencer or some other lesser program.
>>>>> regards
>>>>> Colin
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 6:03 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] routing the metronome in reaper?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't understand, why send a click track to the SR-16?
>>>>>> why not just send plain old midi time code to the SR-16, then set the
>>>>>> SR-16's metronome to sound, so the drummer can hear it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/22/2011 4:37 AM, colin McDonald wrote:
>>>>>>> Hey All:
>>>>>>> ok, here's the background:
>>>>>>> I'm trying to use an alices SR-16 drum machine as a click track
>>>>>>> device,
>>>>>>> for the drummer, while running Midi sequences in Reaper. What I
>>>>>>> need to
>>>>>>> happen is to have reaper send the metronome with tempo
>>>>>>> information, via
>>>>>>> Midi, out to the SR-16, as a click track.
>>>>>>> The rest of the instruments in the sequence are routed to a yamaha
>>>>>>> XP50.
>>>>>>> I'm using an UM1G USB to Midi interface with one midi out, and one
>>>>>>> midi in.
>>>>>>> I've got the UM1G's output connected to the input of the SR-16, and
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>> i'm going from the output of the SR16 out to the Yamaha XP50
>>>>>>> keyboard/sequencer.
>>>>>>> The SR-16 will only reproduce drum sounds, from channel 10, so 
>>>>>>> that's
>>>>>>> why I've got it first, then the sequencer daisy chained off that.
>>>>>>> There are no latency issues whatsoever, the SR-16, xp50 and the
>>>>>>> metronome in reaper are all in sink and so on. Much better than
>>>>>>> microsoft GS wavetable BTW.
>>>>>>> However, I can't seem to find how to route the Metronome click sound
>>>>>>> produced by reaper, out to another device.
>>>>>>> I can do it in quick windows sequencer, but not in reaper it would
>>>>>>> seem.
>>>>>>> In QWS, in the metronome settings, it gives an option as to which
>>>>>>> port
>>>>>>> to send the metronome click track to. That option doesn't seem to
>>>>>>> exist
>>>>>>> in reapers metronome settings.
>>>>>>> In QWS, if I set the metrnome port to the UM1G, the click track 
>>>>>>> plays
>>>>>>> through the SR-16 just fine...mute the sequenced drums, and I've
>>>>>>> got a
>>>>>>> great click track.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, if anyone knows how to send reapers metronome to a specific
>>>>>>> port or
>>>>>>> device, I'd really appreciate a bit of direction.
>>>>>>> I've searched a bunch of terms in the action list and haven't come 
>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>> with anything.
>>>>>>> With all tracks assigned to the UM1G device, the metronome still
>>>>>>> plays
>>>>>>> out of the soundcard.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> regards
>>>>>>> Colin
>>>>>>>
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