[RWP] routing the metronome in reaper?

Indigo 33indigo at charter.net
Fri Jul 22 20:02:14 EDT 2011


My Reaper is on another computer, so I don't know its specific wording, 
but I think nothing would play in Reaper because external time 
synchronization would make Reaper the slave, to be synchronized 
externally, which you don't want in this case, since nothing is sending 
midi clock to Reaper.
There should be another Reaper setting to send out midi clock, but it 
might be already on by default.

These gadgets are either transmitters or receivers of synchronizing clock.
I used a SR16 for years, and knew it completely, but now I forget 
whether it has only a midi in, or maybe midi out and midi through as well.
If it has midi through, you can put it in the midi chain ahead of your 
keyboard, and all midi messages will be sent to the keyboard.


On 7/22/2011 7:19 PM, colin McDonald wrote:
> oh, I just remembered. I checked the box in the project settings window
> to set external time syncronization or something like that...but when
> that box is checked, nothing will play.
> perhaps I have to turn on another setting though.
> But I've got the jist of it now so I'll go back and play some more.
>
> regards
> Colin
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 3:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [RWP] routing the metronome in reaper?
>
>
>> I get to options in Reaper by hitting F6, then arrowing left to
>> Options, then selecting preferences.
>>
>> I'm not quite sure where the setting for sending out midi clock, or
>> midi time code, or midi sync, all names for the same thing, more or less.
>> When I'm looking for settings in Reaper's preferences, I go to the
>> number pad in Winize, arrow down to a topic, like midi, then I go to
>> the tab key and tab through the selections.
>> I don't have any hardware gear synced to Reaper, so I don't know if
>> midi clock out is the default setting for Reaper or not.
>>
>>
>> Hope any of this helps,
>> Indigo
>>
>>
>> On 7/22/2011 5:34 PM, Indigo wrote:
>>> Reaper will send out midi time code from midi out jacks of your sound
>>> card.
>>> Just look in Reaper's options to be sure that midi time code, also
>>> called midi clock, is being sent.
>>> If you only have a single midi out jack on your sound card, and you are
>>> already connecting that out jack to another piece of hardware gear, if
>>> that gear has a midi through jack, connect the midi through to the midi
>>> in jack of your SR16, and it will be synchronized to Reaper's tempo,
>>> also to start and stop commands sent to Reaper.
>>> To get a click from the SR16, for the drummer to hear, you can set the
>>> SR16 to sound its metronome while it is either in play or record mode.
>>> On 7/22/2011 4:53 PM, colin McDonald wrote:
>>>> I don't know how to set and send a midi time code?
>>>> any pointers?
>>>> I'm really new at all the MIDI stuff, even though it's an old
>>>> technology.
>>>> Essentially, in QWS, this is what I think is happening.
>>>> When the metronome in QWS is set to send out to the UM1g, it's
>>>> transmitting a Midi time code to the SR16, which then plays that time
>>>> code...you can set the MIDI key number in QWS as well to tell the SR16
>>>> what kind of sound to play.
>>>> I want to do this in reaper, but obviously I'll have to manually
>>>> program
>>>> the MIDI time code and put that into the sequence.
>>>> Is this done using a Midi event or what?
>>>> I understand that I need to create some sort of event, or something, so
>>>> that tempo and key number can be automatically sent out to the SR16
>>>> from
>>>> any midi file or sequence loaded into reaper.
>>>> I could program this for each file as well if I had to. The idea is to
>>>> have syncronized starts and stops, and automated tempo to the sr16 so
>>>> that one can just hit the space bar in reaper, and the drummer gets a 2
>>>> bar preroll, at the correct tempo that matches the sequence file.
>>>> any pointers on how to get started with a MIDI time code in reaper
>>>> would
>>>> be appreciated.
>>>> I'd rather use the much more powerful reaper than quick windows
>>>> sequencer or some other lesser program.
>>>> regards
>>>> Colin
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 6:03 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] routing the metronome in reaper?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I don't understand, why send a click track to the SR-16?
>>>>> why not just send plain old midi time code to the SR-16, then set the
>>>>> SR-16's metronome to sound, so the drummer can hear it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/22/2011 4:37 AM, colin McDonald wrote:
>>>>>> Hey All:
>>>>>> ok, here's the background:
>>>>>> I'm trying to use an alices SR-16 drum machine as a click track
>>>>>> device,
>>>>>> for the drummer, while running Midi sequences in Reaper. What I
>>>>>> need to
>>>>>> happen is to have reaper send the metronome with tempo
>>>>>> information, via
>>>>>> Midi, out to the SR-16, as a click track.
>>>>>> The rest of the instruments in the sequence are routed to a yamaha
>>>>>> XP50.
>>>>>> I'm using an UM1G USB to Midi interface with one midi out, and one
>>>>>> midi in.
>>>>>> I've got the UM1G's output connected to the input of the SR-16, and
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> i'm going from the output of the SR16 out to the Yamaha XP50
>>>>>> keyboard/sequencer.
>>>>>> The SR-16 will only reproduce drum sounds, from channel 10, so that's
>>>>>> why I've got it first, then the sequencer daisy chained off that.
>>>>>> There are no latency issues whatsoever, the SR-16, xp50 and the
>>>>>> metronome in reaper are all in sink and so on. Much better than
>>>>>> microsoft GS wavetable BTW.
>>>>>> However, I can't seem to find how to route the Metronome click sound
>>>>>> produced by reaper, out to another device.
>>>>>> I can do it in quick windows sequencer, but not in reaper it would
>>>>>> seem.
>>>>>> In QWS, in the metronome settings, it gives an option as to which
>>>>>> port
>>>>>> to send the metronome click track to. That option doesn't seem to
>>>>>> exist
>>>>>> in reapers metronome settings.
>>>>>> In QWS, if I set the metrnome port to the UM1G, the click track plays
>>>>>> through the SR-16 just fine...mute the sequenced drums, and I've
>>>>>> got a
>>>>>> great click track.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, if anyone knows how to send reapers metronome to a specific
>>>>>> port or
>>>>>> device, I'd really appreciate a bit of direction.
>>>>>> I've searched a bunch of terms in the action list and haven't come up
>>>>>> with anything.
>>>>>> With all tracks assigned to the UM1G device, the metronome still
>>>>>> plays
>>>>>> out of the soundcard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> regards
>>>>>> Colin
>>>>>>
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