[RWP] routing the metronome in reaper?

Fri Jul 22 19:45:54 EDT 2011

Oh, I forgot to discuss master slave.
I think Reaper is set as master by default.
You should set the SR16 as slave, or receive midi clock, which is the 
same thing.
I don't know if Reaper begins sending midi clock when its precount 
begins or not.
I would think that there is an option in Reaper to send a precount to a 
drum machine or keyboard, so you would know when recording was coming up.
You know, I'm beginning to think that if your sound card has an extra 
audio out jack, you could maybe route Reaper's metronome by itself to 
that output, then run that through an amplifier, so the drummer could 
hear Reaper's metronome, and you wouldn't even need the SR16.

On 7/22/2011 7:15 PM, colin McDonald wrote:
> it does help.
> However, when midi clock etc is set, I don't think I'll be able to send
> a pre count to the sr16 though?
> So that would mean modifying the midi sequence or one of the instruments
> in the sequence to send a pre count out?
> thanks for your help so far, it gives me a starting point.
>
> regards
> Colin
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 3:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [RWP] routing the metronome in reaper?
>
>
>> I get to options in Reaper by hitting F6, then arrowing left to
>> Options, then selecting preferences.
>>
>> I'm not quite sure where the setting for sending out midi clock, or
>> midi time code, or midi sync, all names for the same thing, more or less.
>> When I'm looking for settings in Reaper's preferences, I go to the
>> number pad in Winize, arrow down to a topic, like midi, then I go to
>> the tab key and tab through the selections.
>> I don't have any hardware gear synced to Reaper, so I don't know if
>> midi clock out is the default setting for Reaper or not.
>>
>>
>> Hope any of this helps,
>> Indigo
>>
>>
>> On 7/22/2011 5:34 PM, Indigo wrote:
>>> Reaper will send out midi time code from midi out jacks of your sound
>>> card.
>>> Just look in Reaper's options to be sure that midi time code, also
>>> called midi clock, is being sent.
>>> If you only have a single midi out jack on your sound card, and you are
>>> already connecting that out jack to another piece of hardware gear, if
>>> that gear has a midi through jack, connect the midi through to the midi
>>> in jack of your SR16, and it will be synchronized to Reaper's tempo,
>>> also to start and stop commands sent to Reaper.
>>> To get a click from the SR16, for the drummer to hear, you can set the
>>> SR16 to sound its metronome while it is either in play or record mode.
>>> On 7/22/2011 4:53 PM, colin McDonald wrote:
>>>> I don't know how to set and send a midi time code?
>>>> any pointers?
>>>> I'm really new at all the MIDI stuff, even though it's an old
>>>> technology.
>>>> Essentially, in QWS, this is what I think is happening.
>>>> When the metronome in QWS is set to send out to the UM1g, it's
>>>> transmitting a Midi time code to the SR16, which then plays that time
>>>> code...you can set the MIDI key number in QWS as well to tell the SR16
>>>> what kind of sound to play.
>>>> I want to do this in reaper, but obviously I'll have to manually
>>>> program
>>>> the MIDI time code and put that into the sequence.
>>>> Is this done using a Midi event or what?
>>>> I understand that I need to create some sort of event, or something, so
>>>> that tempo and key number can be automatically sent out to the SR16
>>>> from
>>>> any midi file or sequence loaded into reaper.
>>>> I could program this for each file as well if I had to. The idea is to
>>>> have syncronized starts and stops, and automated tempo to the sr16 so
>>>> that one can just hit the space bar in reaper, and the drummer gets a 2
>>>> bar preroll, at the correct tempo that matches the sequence file.
>>>> any pointers on how to get started with a MIDI time code in reaper
>>>> would
>>>> be appreciated.
>>>> I'd rather use the much more powerful reaper than quick windows
>>>> sequencer or some other lesser program.
>>>> regards
>>>> Colin
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 6:03 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] routing the metronome in reaper?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I don't understand, why send a click track to the SR-16?
>>>>> why not just send plain old midi time code to the SR-16, then set the
>>>>> SR-16's metronome to sound, so the drummer can hear it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/22/2011 4:37 AM, colin McDonald wrote:
>>>>>> Hey All:
>>>>>> ok, here's the background:
>>>>>> I'm trying to use an alices SR-16 drum machine as a click track
>>>>>> device,
>>>>>> for the drummer, while running Midi sequences in Reaper. What I
>>>>>> need to
>>>>>> happen is to have reaper send the metronome with tempo
>>>>>> information, via
>>>>>> Midi, out to the SR-16, as a click track.
>>>>>> The rest of the instruments in the sequence are routed to a yamaha
>>>>>> XP50.
>>>>>> I'm using an UM1G USB to Midi interface with one midi out, and one
>>>>>> midi in.
>>>>>> I've got the UM1G's output connected to the input of the SR-16, and
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> i'm going from the output of the SR16 out to the Yamaha XP50
>>>>>> keyboard/sequencer.
>>>>>> The SR-16 will only reproduce drum sounds, from channel 10, so that's
>>>>>> why I've got it first, then the sequencer daisy chained off that.
>>>>>> There are no latency issues whatsoever, the SR-16, xp50 and the
>>>>>> metronome in reaper are all in sink and so on. Much better than
>>>>>> microsoft GS wavetable BTW.
>>>>>> However, I can't seem to find how to route the Metronome click sound
>>>>>> produced by reaper, out to another device.
>>>>>> I can do it in quick windows sequencer, but not in reaper it would
>>>>>> seem.
>>>>>> In QWS, in the metronome settings, it gives an option as to which
>>>>>> port
>>>>>> to send the metronome click track to. That option doesn't seem to
>>>>>> exist
>>>>>> in reapers metronome settings.
>>>>>> In QWS, if I set the metrnome port to the UM1G, the click track plays
>>>>>> through the SR-16 just fine...mute the sequenced drums, and I've
>>>>>> got a
>>>>>> great click track.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, if anyone knows how to send reapers metronome to a specific
>>>>>> port or
>>>>>> device, I'd really appreciate a bit of direction.
>>>>>> I've searched a bunch of terms in the action list and haven't come up
>>>>>> with anything.
>>>>>> With all tracks assigned to the UM1G device, the metronome still
>>>>>> plays
>>>>>> out of the soundcard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> regards
>>>>>> Colin
>>>>>>
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