[RWP] Two burning questions. I hope you can help!

Wed Jan 12 22:12:23 EST 2011

Just curious about other screen readers treatment of the media browser.  Can you guys hear file names as you up and down arrow in the folder list?  Jaws is speechless about that, and needs a little help.  Well, quite a bit, really.  There are MSAA objects underneath,  that listing, which means it can be corrected with a little work.  Configuring jaws to rely on MSAA for listViews doesn't seem to help.  Rather odd.
But, I was curious as to whether NVDA, which is apparently mostly object based, is already handling that.
As it is, for me, practically none of the lists in that media browser speak.

Yes,  I'm playing with some simple scripts right now.  It's just that I haven't had much time to work on it.  I'll probably post my fragments some time soon, for people who want to play with it.  But, it's definitely a work in progress, with many many things unaddressed.  
And, because I'm a reaper illiterate compared to some folks on this list, I'm afraid I may be scripting solutions that already exist.  Unpleasant as that may be, it would be nice to know about it.

I know we really want a screen reader-independent solution, for good reason.  I'm entirely in favor of that.
But, I don't have any control over that.  I'm just trying to improve my own little world with the tools at hand.  I'm finding cases where jaws says irrelevant things when navigating some of the controls, and would like to improve that, just so I can understand what the heck is going on.  Old guys like me don't need any more confusion heaped on the plate.  Understanding it all is hard enough without irrelevant gibberish thrown in to the mix.
But, not much progress has been made on that front.

So far, I've got the ability to jump to the start or end of a time selection.  The ability to easily nudge the start or end times of that selection while hearing the audio.  Hot keys for speaking the selection start/end, and length.
And, I have now time, selection start, end and length, and track level all packed onto the braille display, updated in real time.  Hot keys for reading and resetting the track level meter.  One for easily determining if reaper is stopped, playing or recording.  Blending of the ReAccess training mode with the jaws keyboard help, insert+1.    
And, my scripts speak, even if you have screan reader turned off, which is great for avoiding those pesky "reCord" "stop", and "play" messages.

I Think that's about it.  I'm currently slugging away at the media browser.  But, my priorities could change.

Those scripts are a supplemented version of the most recent ReAccess scripts.  Most of those scripts don't really do anything anyway.  All the work is in ReAccess itself, which is a great place for it because, for one thing, it is faster when done at that level.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: david 
  To: Reapers Without Peepers 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 3:44 AM
  Subject: Re: [RWP] Two burning questions. I hope you can help!

  Deleting tracks, yes, I've done that Jim, I suppose it is early days in terms of scripting for Reaper.  After all it has taken years for Sonar to reach such a high sophistication of scripting, and you have spent years developing the wonderful Jaws scripts for Sound Forge.
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Jim Snowbarger 
    To: Reapers Without Peepers 
    Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 2:45 AM
    Subject: Re: [RWP] Two burning questions. I hope you can help!

    David, are you trying to hear the two items on a single track at the same time?
    Or, are you trying to avoid that.
    I managed to achieve that today, but didn't mean to.  I was looking for how to avoid it.

    BTW, have you guys ever accidentally bumped the delete key?
    , if no item is selected, Bingo, there goes the whole track.
    No confirmation dialog or anything. I found that very surprising.

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: david 
      To: Reapers Without Peepers 
      Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 12:36 PM
      Subject: [RWP] Two burning questions. I hope you can help!

        1 How do you select and move a portion of a track or tracks.  In Sonar it is easy to select a number of tracks and nudge them where you like.
      2 I still haven't found an answer to my problem of layering items and hearing them at the same time on a single track.  I'm sure its very obvious but I just can't find that magic check box.

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