[RWP] reaper on mac using voiceover version 4

Tue Aug 30 13:28:48 EDT 2011

Yes, I totally agree, Bryan!
Making your own keymap could also solve some problems on the mac, it was actually the first thing I did when I bought Reaper, four years ago.
I have a Macbook Pro, but will remain using a pc for my studio, because my plugins just don't work with Voiceover.
I'm really happy with the DDP export in Reaper 4 
, by the way!!

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Op 30 aug. 2011 om 15:40 heeft Bryan Smart <bryansmart at bryansmart.com> het volgende geschreven:

> To fix the sluggish UI, go to Preferences, then Appearance, and set UI updates to "Lazy always".
> 
> Reaper on the Mac could move between tracks, and other tasks, but those aren't setup with the default keyboard layout. I'm pretty sure that most of the keystrokes that the Windows Reaper users have are setup by ReaAccess.
> 
> The Mac version is neat, as screen reader users can directly examine most of the user interface. Direct commands and specialized workflows would speed us up, for sure. We could import most of the Windows keymap, or assign our own hotkeys to gain additional functionality. Reaper's theming system makes it possible to design custom versions of the track control panel and other windows, with custom sets of widgets, at custom locations. Using a theme, for example, we could layout the track strip controls in a single horizontal line. Navigating the track control panel would be similar to navigating the track pane in Sonar, then. If VoiceOver is on the volume control of track 1, for example, you could just navigate down, and you'd be on the volume control for track 2.
> 
> Alternatively, I'd like the Reaper people to group tracks in to containers. Right now, they just throw every control for every track in to one big window. Pro Tools, GarageBand, etc all use groups to gather controls for a track. Makes a lot more sense to see a track 1 group, track 2 group, etc, interact with that group, and only see the controls for that single track.
> 
> Would still enjoy ReaAccess, though. Hope that it comes one day. The Mac Reaper has the same API, apps can speak through VOiceOver's synth, and throwing up simple dialog boxes isn't that different. The Mac dev tools are free. Maybe there isn't a Mac available for development?
> 
> Bryan
> 
> On Aug 28, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Victor Tsaran wrote:
> 
>> I don't think Reaper is really all that accessible on the Mac. They have done first steps all right, however, it is not where it needs to be in order to be considered a productive tool for blind musicians.
>> 1. There is no easy way to navigate between tracks.
>> 2. It is impossible to navigate between items without spoken feedback.
>> 3. The navigation between controls is very sluggish.
>> 4. Media Explorer is not very well labeled for VoiceOver accessibility.
>> 
>> the list goes on.
>> Thanks,
>> Victor
>> 
>> On Aug 27, 2011, at 2:45 PM, Gmail wrote:
>> 
>>> Reaper is pretty accessible on the mac by itself, so I don't really understand the point. Justin has already done a great job, regarding the changes with accessibility  in this new version.
>>> Another point is that most thirdparty pluggins don't work with Voiceover, so if you'd like to work on larger or maybe commercial projects, you would probably be better off with Reaper for Windows.
>>> Rene
>>> 
>>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
>>> 
>>> Op 23 aug. 2011 om 22:34 heeft Victor Tsaran <vtsaran at gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>>> All the information can be found on reaper.fm under the "developers" link.
>>>> Best,
>>>> Vic
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 16, 2011, at 11:06 AM, Justin Thornton wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> can someone point me in the write direction and what tools to use to compile and write such an extention to work with reaper to make it accessible with VO
>>>>> I do know a programmer, I would just need all documentation and the write tools
>>>>> On Aug 15, 2011, at 10:46 PM, Victor Tsaran wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> You don't really have to communicate with VO, just with the Speech Manager. However, Gord is correct when saying that an extension would still have to be written and compiled into a library, similar to the DLL we have on Windows.
>>>>>> I have toyed with an idea a bit but knowing how much time it takes, I decided to pass it onto someone else this time around.
>>>>>> V
>>>>>> On Aug 15, 2011, at 2:24 PM, Gordon Kent wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Well, if you were a really serious programmer it might be possible to get a module that would communicate with vo, but I'm not sure of this.
>>>>>>> Gord
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Justin Thornton
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 4:57 PM
>>>>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] reaper on mac using voiceover version 4
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>> what could be done with python
>>>>>>> could this be used for some sort of feedback system
>>>>>>> On Aug 15, 2011, at 12:47 PM, Gordon Kent wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Well, you couldn't port it over, although the mac os does come with python which is universal.  I don't know about the feedback issue, since I really haven't done much more than give it a cursory look, but I think that the idea of scripting has to be expanded in general for VO to truly become as robust a solution as it needs to be.
>>>>>>>> Gord
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Justin Thornton
>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 6:25 PM
>>>>>>>> To: RWP at reaaccess.com
>>>>>>>> Subject: [RWP] reaper on mac using voiceover version 4
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> hi
>>>>>>>> I am a new user of reaper totally but am learning quite fast and very easily
>>>>>>>> I would like to know if anyone has come up or manage an idea to work with reaper on mac with voiceover successfully
>>>>>>>> everything appears to be labeled but feedback in many areas is lacking substantually
>>>>>>>> I am wondering if this is being worked on
>>>>>>>> I would love to use reaper fully on mac
>>>>>>>> is there anyway to port a version of rea access to mac, using say the system voice?
>>>>>>>> please write back soon
>>>>>>>> I am awaiting a good responce
>>>>>>>> I would be willing to test apple scripts with voiceover or beta builds of reaper with accessibility improvements
>>>>>>>> thanks JT
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