[RWP] Introduction and question

Thu Jun 17 09:37:00 EDT 2010

Very true  but isn't part of the reason Sonar takes up so much space
is thats because its bundled  with a ton of effects and soft synths
and not lets talk about how much space it takes up with you install
all the extra content for said effects and soft synths.But the issue
with Sonar breaking accessibility is one we have had to deal with  in
Reaper land as well as wasn't there a recent reaper update taht broke
accessibility of the media explorer ? These are things we will have to
deal with as Developers are first concerned with making their products
better, not better and accessible at the same  time, atleast not till
we bring it to their attention that something was broken for us.

On 6/17/10, Hrvoje Katić <hrvojekatic at gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, it's interesting discussion so I'm joining here.
> Personally, I didn't like Sonar since it requires even more system
> resources such as FL Studio, and takes about 6 GB on your HD if you
> install it without additional content. I experienced numerous crashes
> and slowdowns while working with Sonar. Ok, JSonar is a really great
> product, but CakeWalk unfortunately brakes accessibility in various
> places, making hard for JAWS script makers to implement support for
> certain parts of an application into JFW i.e. look at issues with track
> view where track names cannot be found or certain track columns cannot
> be accessed (from my personal experience), or SynthRack view access
> issues starting from V8.5.
> Now Reaper. Reaper is very cool daw and doesn't take lots of resources
> and disk space, projects will open much faster, accessibility is quite
> good with ReaAccess added. The only thing that was easier for me in
> Sonar is making selections of tracks and clips, since it took me a lot
> of time to realize how to do this in Reaper. But everything is hard at
> the beginning.
>
> Hrvoje
>
>
> On 17.6.2010 4:56, Simon Jaeger, Laptop Edition wrote:
>> Hmpf. I still don't like some of the issues CakeTalking has, I use it
>> at my school and it's constantly having issues scrubbing and doing
>> other simple things. Reaper simply doesn't I've never been able to do
>> the kind of precise editing in sonar that I can in reaper, or even
>> GoldWave or ssound forge.
>>
>>
>> Simon
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "clarence griffin"
>> <goldfingas at gmail.com>
>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 6:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Introduction and question
>>
>>
>>> I wouldn't go so far as to say the most accessible. Sonar is by far
>>> mo accessible than reaper, but reaper is close in the race.
>>> And we must not leave out Protools. That is very close to the top as
>>> well.
>>>
>>> GF
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 16, 2010, at 6:00 PM, Kevin Brown wrote:
>>>
>>>> In myh opinion, reaper is the most accessible DAW on the market,...
>>>>
>>>> Granted, it hasn't been around as long as some other DAWs, but I
>>>> like the reaper approach...
>>>>
>>>> Using reaper with reaaccess is just what I've been looking for!...
>>>>
>>>> I can't wait to see what the developers are cooking up for future
>>>> releases!...
>>>>
>>>> I pay the money for the personal license, and right out of the
>>>> box,...I am recording!...No need for all of the extra's to get my
>>>> screen reader to do what my sighted counterparts take for granted...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Original message:
>>>>> I'm curious, what do you do with sonar that can't be done with
>>>>> reaper? I'm
>>>>> sure there are some things, I just wouldn't mind knowing what.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Simon
>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "clarence griffin" <goldfingas at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 10:14 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Introduction and question
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> first of all, I must say wow. you must haven't played with sonar
>>>>>> in at
>>>>>> least the last, hmmm, lets say 8 years or so.
>>>>>> And secondly, I think there are some docs floating around. Plus
>>>>>> this list
>>>>>> is a great resource for information. I am a sonar user and coming
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> sonar I find reaper to be a much younger brother to sonar, but I need
>>>>>> tools like sonar and protools for my job as a producer. I wouldn't
>>>>>> suggest
>>>>>> reaper just yet for major project work in a studio. But if you have
>>>>>> specific questions regarding reaper, just ask here and I am sure
>>>>>> one of us
>>>>>> has an answer, or can tell you where to get it.
>>>>>> Welcome to the family.
>>>>
>>>>>> GF
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 16, 2010, at 9:56 AM, Sina Bahram wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>>>> My name is Sina Bahram, and I've recently gotten  into Reaper.
>>>>
>>>>>>> I've downloaded and installed the latest Reaper and Reaaccess.
>>>>
>>>>>>> I've been playing  around with Reaper and have truly been impressed
>>>>>>> compared to the basic level of access found in something like
>>>>>>> sonar.
>>>>
>>>>>>> I have some questions though.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> I want to start doing some simple things in Reaper to learn my way
>>>>>>> around.
>>>>
>>>>>>> Are there any tutorials on how to just lay down a beat, let's
>>>>>>> say? Some
>>>>>>> kicks, highhats, and maybe a short baseline?
>>>>
>>>>>>> I just want to learn the work flow and how things go together.
>>>>
>>>>>>> I found the virtual keyboard to be useable, when one isn't front
>>>>>>> of a
>>>>>>> midi one, that is, but is there a step sequencer or something
>>>>>>> that will actually allow me to enter in midi onto the track?
>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, I can never open a track. Whenever I hit enter on it, it
>>>>>>> says the
>>>>>>> track can't be opened. Not sure what's up with that?
>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm also a bit unclear as to the necessary routing just to make midi
>>>>>>> issue forth some sound. In sonar, each track had an output
>>>>>>> attribute, but here all I see is midi output.
>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyways, maybe an FAQ or beginners  guide or some other resource
>>>>>>> would be
>>>>>>> great, if there is one?
>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks much
>>>>
>>>>>>> Take care,
>>>>>>> Sina
>>>>
>>>>
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