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    By one note, what exactly do you mean? Do you mean that you can only
    insert one phoneme before it gives you an error? Is it possible for
    you to, say, record a demo of what goes wrong?<br>
    Thanks<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 02/20/16 02:06 PM, Blake Roberts
      wrote:<br>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span
                style="font-size:
                10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span
                style="font-size:
                10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">I installed the
                singing Dectalk NVDA add-on
                from Jeff's site. I'm still having difficulty making it
                sing. I followed the instructions
                as follows:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span
                style="font-size:
                10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">1. Copy symbols.dic
                from the NVDA Dectalk folder
                to NVDA config directory replacing what's there.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span
                style="font-size:
                10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">2. Delete
                builtin.dic in program files (x86)\nvda.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span
                style="font-size:
                10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">I can only get it
                to sing one note before hearing
                "error in phoneme." I checked the dectalk.py Python file
                by opening it
                in Wordpad. I found a text note there saying the program
                code requiring removal
                had already been deleted. Since I have no knowledge of
                the Python programming language
                which NVDA uses, I did not edit that file at all. Is
                there something else I need
                to do for singing capability to work in NVDA?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                style="font-size:
                10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Blake<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                style="font-size:
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                style="font-size:
                10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" color="black"
                  face="Tahoma"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font
                size="2" color="black" face="Tahoma"><span
                  style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
                  color:windowtext"> Dectalk
                  [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com">mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com</a>] <b><span
                      style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Mohamed<br>
                  <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
                  Tuesday, February 16, 2016
                  2:58 PM<br>
                  <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <st1:personname
                    w:st="on">DECtalk</st1:personname><br>
                  <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
                  Re: [<st1:personname w:st="on">DECtalk</st1:personname>]
                  singing Dectalk and NVDA</span></font><font
                color="black"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times
              New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font
              size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span
                style="font-size:12.0pt">Or you could, if you'd
                like, just install the add on on Jeff's site, that one
                is pre built, and the
                code is already removed.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black"
                face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On
                  02/15/16 09:02 PM, Blake Roberts wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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          <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"
            cite="mid:053B5EA40D224257BDE8C98C6DD98F61@Blakethegreat"
            type="cite"><u1:smarttagtype
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              name="PersonName">
              <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy"
                  face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
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  <u1:shapelayout u3:ext="edit">
   <u1:idmap u3:ext="edit" data="1"/>
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</xml><![endif]-->Thanks for the specific instructions. I somehow
                    managed to
                    temporarily break NVDA. Perhaps I deleted the wrong
                    line in the dectalk.py file
                    located in<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy"
                  face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
                    10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">%appdata%\nvda\</span></font>addons\dectalk\synthdrivers<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black"
                  face="Times
 New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
                    font-family:"Times\000D\000A New Roman"">after
                    editing it in
                    WordPad. In any case, I will be reinstalling NVDA
                    and attempt to make the DT
                    nvda add-on sing on another day.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black"
                  face="Times
 New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
                    font-family:"Times\000D\000A New Roman"">Blake</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
              <u1:p></u1:p>
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                  face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
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                  face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
                    10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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                    face="Times
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" color="black"
                      face="Tahoma"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font
                    size="2" color="black" face="Tahoma"><span
                      style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
                      color:windowtext"> Dectalk [<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com">mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com</a></a>]
                      <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Mohamed<br>
                      <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
                      Monday, February 15, 2016
                      6:54 PM<br>
                      <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <st1:personname
                        u4:st="on"><st1:personname w:st="on">DECtalk</st1:personname></st1:personname><br>
                      <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
                      Re: [<st1:personname u4:st="on"><st1:personname
                          w:st="on">DECtalk</st1:personname></st1:personname>]
                      singing Dectalk and NVDA</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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              <u1:p></u1:p>
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                  face="Times
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                    font-family:"Times\000D\000A New Roman""><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font
                  size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span
                    style="font-size:12.0pt">It's in
                    addons\dectalk\synthdrivers,
                    not in synth drivers. The code is commented in the
                    .py file itself, so it
                    should be easy to find. Also, about the symbol
                    pronunciation dialog, it has 3
                    combo boxes for symbols. The symbol, its
                    replacement, and preserve. If you want
                    something to go to the synthesizer, the combo box
                    itself is labeled "send
                    actual symbol to synthesizer", you set it to always
                    for the proper
                    symbols. Or, if you would like a dictionary pre
                    built, there's one at <a
                      href="http://jeff.tdrealms.com/NVDA.htm"
                      moz-do-not-send="true"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://jeff.tdrealms.com/NVDA.htm">http://jeff.tdrealms.com/NVDA.htm</a></a>.
                    Just find the addon labeled "singing dectalk", it
                    contains
                    instructions on how to get it to work. And the
                    shortcut to access the NVDA menu
                    can be changed in input gestures, in the filter by
                    combo box, search for NVDA.<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black"
                    face="Times New Roman"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt">On 02/15/16 05:36 PM,
                      Blake Roberts wrote:<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black"
                    face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
                      10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Hi,<u5:p></u5:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black"
                    face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
                      10.0pt;font-family:Arial">I am having trouble
                      getting the Singing Dectalk NVDA
                      add-on to sing. I tried following the instructions
                      posted in September and
                      archived here:<u5:p></u5:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black"
                    face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
                      10.0pt;font-family:Arial"><a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://bluegrasspals.com/pipermail/dectalk/2015-September/004408.html"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://bluegrasspals.com/pipermail/dectalk/2015-September/004408.html">http://bluegrasspals.com/pipermail/dectalk/2015-September/004408.html</a></a><u5:p></u5:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black"
                    face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
                      10.0pt;font-family:Arial">I can't find dectalk.py
                      so that I can edit it and delete
                      the line which prevents speech commands being sent
                      to the synthesizer. Where is
                      dectalk.py located? I already looked in the synth
                      drivers folder.<u5:p></u5:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black"
                    face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
                      10.0pt;font-family:Arial"><u5:p> </u5:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black"
                    face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
                      10.0pt;font-family:Arial">I also have an NVDA
                      question on Snoopi's behalf. He
                      has the latest NVDA snapshot and the singing
                      Dectalk add-on installed. Is it
                      possible to set up a keyboard shortcut to load the
                      NVDA menu? It is difficult
                      for him to enter the NVDA menu using the standard
                      command. It is also worth
                      noting that Snoopi and I are both lost Re: the
                      punctuations and symbols dialog
                      box.<u5:p></u5:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black"
                    face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
                      10.0pt;font-family:Arial"><u5:p> </u5:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black"
                    face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
                      10.0pt;font-family:Arial"><u5:p> </u5:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black"
                    face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
                      10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Blake<u5:p></u5:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
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                    size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt"><br>
                      <br>
                      <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
                <pre><font size="2" color="black" face="Courier New"><u1:p></u1:p><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>_______________________________________________<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
                <pre><font size="2" color="black" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Dectalk mailing list<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
                <pre><font size="2" color="black" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><a href="mailto:Dectalk@bluegrasspals.com" moz-do-not-send="true">Dectalk@bluegrasspals.com</a><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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