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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dectalk only sings one note and it's always
the wrong one. I suspect it gets stuck at the first less than sign. I tried playing
a couple of my songs. Dectalk for NVDA always sings the wrong note before the crash.
That's why I think the add-on gets stuck at the first less than. As an example of
what's happening, attached is an unedited demo of Dectalk trying to sing my I Made
It Through The Rain song. After opening the text file, I use the read all command,
NVDA Key-down arrow.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Blake<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
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size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext'> Dectalk [mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Mohamed<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, February 22, 2016
3:56 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">DECtalk</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">DECtalk</st1:PersonName>] singing Dectalk and NVDA</span></font><font
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>By one note, what exactly
do you mean? Do you mean that you can only insert one phoneme before it gives
you an error? Is it possible for you to, say, record a demo of what goes wrong?<br>
Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 02/20/16 02:06 PM, Blake Roberts wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I installed the singing Dectalk NVDA
add-on from Jeff's site. I'm still having difficulty making it sing. I followed
the instructions as follows:<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>1. Copy symbols.dic from the NVDA Dectalk
folder to NVDA config directory replacing what's there.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>2. Delete builtin.dic in program files
(x86)\nvda.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I can only get it to sing one note before
hearing "error in phoneme." I checked the dectalk.py Python file by
opening it in Wordpad. I found a text note there saying the program code
requiring removal had already been deleted. Since I have no knowledge of the
Python programming language which NVDA uses, I did not edit that file at all.
Is there something else I need to do for singing capability to work in NVDA?<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Blake<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext'> Dectalk [<a href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com">mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com</a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Mohamed<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, February 16, 2016
2:58 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:personname u4:st="on"><st1:PersonName
w:st="on">DECtalk</st1:personname></st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [<st1:personname u4:st="on"><st1:PersonName
w:st="on">DECtalk</st1:personname></st1:PersonName>] singing Dectalk and NVDA</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Or you could, if you'd
like, just install the add on on Jeff's site, that one is pre built, and the
code is already removed.<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 02/15/16 09:02 PM, Blake Roberts wrote:<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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</xml><![endif]-->Thanks for the specific instructions. I somehow managed to
temporarily break NVDA. Perhaps I deleted the wrong line in the dectalk.py file
located in<u5:p></u5:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>%appdata%\nvda\</span></font>addons\dectalk\synthdrivers<u5:p></u5:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times
New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times\000D\000A New Roman"'>after editing
it in WordPad. In any case, I will be reinstalling NVDA and attempt to make the
DT nvda add-on sing on another day.<u5:p></u5:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times\000D\000A New Roman"'>Blake</span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<u5:p></u5:p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'></span>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext'> Dectalk [<a href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com"
moz-do-not-send=true></a><a href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com">mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com</a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Mohamed<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, February 15, 2016
6:54 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:personname u6:st="on"><st1:personname u4:st="on"><st1:PersonName
w:st="on">DECtalk</st1:personname></st1:personname></st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [<st1:personname u6:st="on"><st1:personname u4:st="on"><st1:PersonName
w:st="on">DECtalk</st1:personname></st1:personname></st1:PersonName>] singing
Dectalk and NVDA</span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>It's in
addons\dectalk\synthdrivers, not in synth drivers. The code is commented in the
.py file itself, so it should be easy to find. Also, about the symbol pronunciation
dialog, it has 3 combo boxes for symbols. The symbol, its replacement, and
preserve. If you want something to go to the synthesizer, the combo box itself
is labeled "send actual symbol to synthesizer", you set it to always
for the proper symbols. Or, if you would like a dictionary pre built, there's
one at <a href="http://jeff.tdrealms.com/NVDA.htm" moz-do-not-send=true></a><a
href="http://jeff.tdrealms.com/NVDA.htm">http://jeff.tdrealms.com/NVDA.htm</a>.
Just find the addon labeled "singing dectalk", it contains
instructions on how to get it to work. And the shortcut to access the NVDA menu
can be changed in input gestures, in the filter by combo box, search for NVDA.<u5:p></u5:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 02/15/16 05:36 PM, Blake Roberts wrote:<u5:p></u5:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Hi,<u9:p></u9:p></span></font><u5:p></u5:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I am having trouble getting the Singing Dectalk NVDA
add-on to sing. I tried following the instructions posted in September and
archived here:<u9:p></u9:p></span></font><u5:p></u5:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><a
href="http://bluegrasspals.com/pipermail/dectalk/2015-September/004408.html"
moz-do-not-send=true></a><a
href="http://bluegrasspals.com/pipermail/dectalk/2015-September/004408.html">http://bluegrasspals.com/pipermail/dectalk/2015-September/004408.html</a><u9:p></u9:p></span></font><u5:p></u5:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I can't find dectalk.py so that I can edit it and
delete the line which prevents speech commands being sent to the synthesizer.
Where is dectalk.py located? I already looked in the synth drivers folder.<u9:p></u9:p></span></font><u5:p></u5:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I also have an NVDA question on Snoopi's behalf. He
has the latest NVDA snapshot and the singing Dectalk add-on installed. Is it
possible to set up a keyboard shortcut to load the NVDA menu? It is difficult
for him to enter the NVDA menu using the standard command. It is also worth
noting that Snoopi and I are both lost Re: the punctuations and symbols dialog
box.<u9:p></u9:p></span></font><u5:p></u5:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
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