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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 02/22/16 05:31 PM, Mohamed wrote:<br>
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OK, try making sure that you are at the top of the file, at the
first phone on command. Or, if you're doing this in notepad, try
maxumizing the window so code doesn't get split half way through.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 02/22/16 08:49 AM, Blake Roberts
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy"
face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Dectalk only
sings one note and it's always the wrong one. I
suspect it gets stuck at the first less than sign. I
tried playing a couple of my songs. Dectalk for NVDA
always sings the wrong note before the crash. That's
why I think the add-on gets stuck at the first less
than. As an example of what's happening, attached is
an unedited demo of Dectalk trying to sing my I Made
It Through The Rain song. After opening the text file,
I use the read all command, NVDA Key-down arrow.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font
size="2" color="black" face="Tahoma"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext"> Dectalk [<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
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href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com">mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com</a></a>]
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Mohamed<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
Monday, February 22, 2016 3:56 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <st1:personname
w:st="on">DECtalk</st1:personname><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
Re: [<st1:personname w:st="on">DECtalk</st1:personname>]
singing Dectalk and NVDA</span></font><font
color="black"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">By one note, what exactly do
you mean? Do you mean that you can only insert one
phoneme before it gives you an error? Is it possible
for you to, say, record a demo of what goes wrong?<br>
Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black"
face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On
02/20/16 02:06 PM, Blake Roberts wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"
cite="mid:690A7E3678AF4E70AFCEF4AFE217FAF8@Blakethegreat"
type="cite"><u1:smarttagtype
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy"
face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">I installed
the singing Dectalk NVDA add-on from Jeff's site.
I'm still having difficulty making it sing. I
followed the instructions as follows:<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy"
face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">1. Copy
symbols.dic from the NVDA Dectalk folder to NVDA
config directory replacing what's there.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy"
face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">2. Delete
builtin.dic in program files (x86)\nvda.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy"
face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">I can only
get it to sing one note before hearing "error in
phoneme." I checked the dectalk.py Python file by
opening it in Wordpad. I found a text note there
saying the program code requiring removal had
already been deleted. Since I have no knowledge of
the Python programming language which NVDA uses, I
did not edit that file at all. Is there something
else I need to do for singing capability to work
in NVDA?<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Blake<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="Tahoma"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font
size="2" color="black" face="Tahoma"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext"> Dectalk [<a
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href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com">mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com</a></a>]
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Mohamed<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
Tuesday, February 16, 2016 2:58 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b>
<st1:personname u4:st="on"><st1:personname
w:st="on">DECtalk</st1:personname></st1:personname><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
Re: [<st1:personname u4:st="on"><st1:personname
w:st="on">DECtalk</st1:personname></st1:personname>]
singing Dectalk and NVDA</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font
size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">Or you could, if you'd
like, just install the add on on Jeff's site, that
one is pre built, and the code is already removed.<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black"
face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">On 02/15/16 09:02 PM,
Blake Roberts wrote:<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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</xml><![endif]-->Thanks for the specific instructions. I somehow
managed to temporarily break NVDA. Perhaps I
deleted the wrong line in the dectalk.py file
located in<u5:p></u5:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy"
face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">%appdata%\nvda\</span></font>addons\dectalk\synthdrivers<u5:p></u5:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black"
face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times\000D\000A
New Roman"">after editing it in WordPad.
In any case, I will be reinstalling NVDA and
attempt to make the DT nvda add-on sing on
another day.<u5:p></u5:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black"
face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times\000D\000A
New Roman"">Blake</span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<u5:p></u5:p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2"
color="black" face="Tahoma"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold"></span>From:</font></b><font
size="2" color="black" face="Tahoma"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext"> Dectalk [<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com">mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com</a></a>]
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf
Of </span></b>Mohamed<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
Monday, February 15, 2016 6:54 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b>
<st1:personname u6:st="on"><st1:personname
u4:st="on"><st1:personname w:st="on">DECtalk</st1:personname></st1:personname></st1:personname><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
Re: [<st1:personname u6:st="on"><st1:personname
u4:st="on"><st1:personname w:st="on">DECtalk</st1:personname></st1:personname></st1:personname>]
singing Dectalk and NVDA</span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font
size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">It's in
addons\dectalk\synthdrivers, not in synth
drivers. The code is commented in the .py file
itself, so it should be easy to find. Also,
about the symbol pronunciation dialog, it has
3 combo boxes for symbols. The symbol, its
replacement, and preserve. If you want
something to go to the synthesizer, the combo
box itself is labeled "send actual symbol to
synthesizer", you set it to always for the
proper symbols. Or, if you would like a
dictionary pre built, there's one at <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://jeff.tdrealms.com/NVDA.htm"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://jeff.tdrealms.com/NVDA.htm">http://jeff.tdrealms.com/NVDA.htm</a></a>.
Just find the addon labeled "singing dectalk",
it contains instructions on how to get it to
work. And the shortcut to access the NVDA menu
can be changed in input gestures, in the
filter by combo box, search for NVDA.<u5:p></u5:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black"
face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">On 02/15/16 05:36
PM, Blake Roberts wrote:<u5:p></u5:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Hi,<u9:p></u9:p></span></font><u5:p></u5:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black"
face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial">I am having
trouble getting the Singing Dectalk NVDA
add-on to sing. I tried following the
instructions posted in September and
archived here:<u9:p></u9:p></span></font><u5:p></u5:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black"
face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://bluegrasspals.com/pipermail/dectalk/2015-September/004408.html"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://bluegrasspals.com/pipermail/dectalk/2015-September/004408.html">http://bluegrasspals.com/pipermail/dectalk/2015-September/004408.html</a></a><u9:p></u9:p></span></font><u5:p></u5:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black"
face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial">I can't find
dectalk.py so that I can edit it and delete
the line which prevents speech commands
being sent to the synthesizer. Where is
dectalk.py located? I already looked in the
synth drivers folder.<u9:p></u9:p></span></font><u5:p></u5:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black"
face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial">I also have an
NVDA question on Snoopi's behalf. He has the
latest NVDA snapshot and the singing Dectalk
add-on installed. Is it possible to set up a
keyboard shortcut to load the NVDA menu? It
is difficult for him to enter the NVDA menu
using the standard command. It is also worth
noting that Snoopi and I are both lost Re:
the punctuations and symbols dialog box.<u9:p></u9:p></span></font><u5:p></u5:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black"
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