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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I installed the singing Dectalk NVDA add-on
from Jeff's site. I'm still having difficulty making it sing. I followed the instructions
as follows:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>1. Copy symbols.dic from the NVDA Dectalk folder
to NVDA config directory replacing what's there.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>2. Delete builtin.dic in program files (x86)\nvda.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I can only get it to sing one note before hearing
"error in phoneme." I checked the dectalk.py Python file by opening it
in Wordpad. I found a text note there saying the program code requiring removal
had already been deleted. Since I have no knowledge of the Python programming language
which NVDA uses, I did not edit that file at all. Is there something else I need
to do for singing capability to work in NVDA?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext'> Dectalk [mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Mohamed<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, February 16, 2016
2:58 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">DECtalk</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">DECtalk</st1:PersonName>] singing Dectalk and NVDA</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Or you could, if you'd
like, just install the add on on Jeff's site, that one is pre built, and the
code is already removed.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 02/15/16 09:02 PM, Blake Roberts wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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cite="mid:053B5EA40D224257BDE8C98C6DD98F61@Blakethegreat" type=cite><u1:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PersonName">

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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</xml><![endif]-->Thanks for the specific instructions. I somehow managed to
temporarily break NVDA. Perhaps I deleted the wrong line in the dectalk.py file
located in<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>%appdata%\nvda\</span></font>addons\dectalk\synthdrivers<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black
face="Times               New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times\000D\000A              New Roman"'>after editing it in
WordPad. In any case, I will be reinstalling NVDA and attempt to make the DT
nvda add-on sing on another day.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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face="Times               New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times\000D\000A              New Roman"'>Blake</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<u1:p></u1:p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext'> Dectalk [<a href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com">mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com</a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Mohamed<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, February 15, 2016
6:54 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:personname u4:st="on"><st1:PersonName
w:st="on">DECtalk</st1:personname></st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [<st1:personname u4:st="on"><st1:PersonName
w:st="on">DECtalk</st1:personname></st1:PersonName>] singing Dectalk and NVDA</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<u1:p></u1:p>

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face="Times               New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times\000D\000A              New Roman"'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>It's in addons\dectalk\synthdrivers,
not in synth drivers. The code is commented in the .py file itself, so it
should be easy to find. Also, about the symbol pronunciation dialog, it has 3
combo boxes for symbols. The symbol, its replacement, and preserve. If you want
something to go to the synthesizer, the combo box itself is labeled "send
actual symbol to synthesizer", you set it to always for the proper
symbols. Or, if you would like a dictionary pre built, there's one at <a
href="http://jeff.tdrealms.com/NVDA.htm" moz-do-not-send=true>http://jeff.tdrealms.com/NVDA.htm</a>.
Just find the addon labeled "singing dectalk", it contains
instructions on how to get it to work. And the shortcut to access the NVDA menu
can be changed in input gestures, in the filter by combo box, search for NVDA.<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 02/15/16 05:36 PM, Blake Roberts wrote:<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Hi,<u5:p></u5:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I am having trouble getting the Singing Dectalk NVDA
add-on to sing. I tried following the instructions posted in September and
archived here:<u5:p></u5:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><a
href="http://bluegrasspals.com/pipermail/dectalk/2015-September/004408.html"
moz-do-not-send=true></a><a
href="http://bluegrasspals.com/pipermail/dectalk/2015-September/004408.html">http://bluegrasspals.com/pipermail/dectalk/2015-September/004408.html</a><u5:p></u5:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I can't find dectalk.py so that I can edit it and delete
the line which prevents speech commands being sent to the synthesizer. Where is
dectalk.py located? I already looked in the synth drivers folder.<u5:p></u5:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><u5:p> </u5:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I also have an NVDA question on Snoopi's behalf. He
has the latest NVDA snapshot and the singing Dectalk add-on installed. Is it
possible to set up a keyboard shortcut to load the NVDA menu? It is difficult
for him to enter the NVDA menu using the standard command. It is also worth
noting that Snoopi and I are both lost Re: the punctuations and symbols dialog
box.<u5:p></u5:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><u5:p> </u5:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><u5:p> </u5:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Blake<u5:p></u5:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt'><fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>_______________________________________________<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Dectalk mailing list<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><a
href="mailto:Dectalk@bluegrasspals.com" moz-do-not-send=true>Dectalk@bluegrasspals.com</a><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><a
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size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Dectalk mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><a
href="mailto:Dectalk@bluegrasspals.com">Dectalk@bluegrasspals.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><a
href="http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk">http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre></blockquote>

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