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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yes, that definitely brings back
memories!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I just wish his site didn't go down. I wonder where
he got that version of Dectalk.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=beroberts@hughes.net href="mailto:beroberts@hughes.net">Blake
Roberts</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=dectalk@bluegrasspals.com
href="mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com">'DECtalk Discussions'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:50
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [DECtalk] Foreign Languages
(was DECTAlk 4.4 Public Domain?)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=477034623-01022012><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I read somewhere that when Patrick made his Revenge of
Borris skit, he used a German Dectalk and made it sound Russian. That
production still amazes me after over 10 years. For fun, I'm attaching
Patrick's production so that list members can hear it again.
Enjoy!</FONT></SPAN></DIV><SPAN class=477034623-01022012></SPAN><FONT
face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2>Blake<SPAN
class=477034623-01022012></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> <A
href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com">dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com</A>
[mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Raymond
Grote<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:35 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
DECtalk Discussions<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [DECtalk] Foreign Languages (was
DECTAlk 4.4 Public Domain?)<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Wow, interesting thing there. I know Patrick
Perdue made Dectalk sound Russian once. It sounded exactly like 4.3, with a
Russian accent. I say 4.3 because when it sang, there was vibrato, which 4.4
can't do because of some bug I heard. I wonder if he used the Russian language
and then used phonemes to make it sound English, or if he used English and
somehow made it sound Russian. I'd bet the former, but either way would be
hard. I doubt he used a Speak window either, since those older versions of the
Speak window had only english support.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=edbruckert@gmail.com href="mailto:edbruckert@gmail.com">ebruckert
Bruckert</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=dectalk@bluegrasspals.com
href="mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com">DECtalk Discussions</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 01, 2012
10:34 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [DECtalk] DECTAlk 4.4
Public Domain?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV> just to be clear there are no legal
versions of DECtalk in the public domain, if there were I wouldn't have gone
without a tool for years, and is of course I have versions of DECtalk but
they weren't able to work with my screen reader.
<DIV>If there weren't public domain version I would be working to partner up
with somebody and create some tools which is basically what I did with
enable cuss I needed a SAPI.</DIV>
<DIV> Okay as far as versions of DECtalk that were made, there
is American English, British English, French, German, Chinese, and Korean.
The quality varies is there a lot of problems in doing this besides just
creating the phonemes.</DIV>
<DIV> In addition I did a special version of DECtalk that is
used by kinnor software which can chant the Torah and other things to
prepare one for bar mitzvah. It lacks letter to sound rules because both
Hebrew and Arabic letter to sound rules are extremely difficult because in a
lot of texts they don't write the vowels, which people can figure out but
computers are hardly data</DIV>
<DIV>. As an example right in English sentence remove all the vowels
and see if her friend can figure it out,<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Raymond Grote <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:musicalman1@comcast.net">musicalman1@comcast.net</A>></SPAN>
wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote
style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Well,
the sonic thing wasn't a real big thing at least for me, nor anyone else I
knew that used it. It sounded strange, and I never did like dectalk above
rates of400 or so.<BR>Going off topic here, I wonder if a decent British
dectalk was ever made?
<DIV class=im><BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- From: "Pitermach"
<<A href="mailto:pitermach@gmail.com"
target=_blank>pitermach@gmail.com</A>><BR>To: "DECtalk Discussions"
<<A href="mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com"
target=_blank>dectalk@bluegrasspals.com</A>><BR></DIV>Sent: Wednesday,
February 01, 2012 8:47 AM
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<DIV class=h5><BR>Subject: Re: [DECtalk] DECTAlk 4.4 Public
Domain?<BR><BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote
style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Actually
yeah. The driver was written by Tyler and I sort of helped him out with
it. The first version only did Paul and had sonic to speed the rate up
even more. I asked him to add voices, and that's the newer version where
sonic had to be removed because it was crashing things
apparently.<BR><BR>On <A href="tel:2012-02-01%2013" target=_blank
value="+12012020113">2012-02-01 13</A>:52, Raymond Grote wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote
style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Hi,<BR>I
was under the impression that both Dectalks were the same engine, just
different versions of the driver, and the newer one supported voices
but the older one didn't?<BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- From:
"Pitermach" <<A href="mailto:pitermach@gmail.com"
target=_blank>pitermach@gmail.com</A>><BR>To: "DECtalk Discussions"
<<A href="mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com"
target=_blank>dectalk@bluegrasspals.com</A>><BR>Sent: Wednesday,
February 01, 2012 5:43 AM<BR>Subject: Re: [DECtalk] DECTAlk 4.4 Public
Domain?<BR><BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote
style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">About
the issue with the second dectalk, what happens is almost every
parameter is actually changed, except the pitch and inflection, so
after you change voices you just need to manually raise the pitch or
what ever to set it straight.<BR><BR>On <A
href="tel:2012-02-01%2003" target=_blank
value="+12012020103">2012-02-01 03</A>:18, Blake Roberts wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote
style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Doris,<BR>I
discovered the other day that two Dectalks for NVDA exist. I was
able to<BR>try both out after obtaining them and reinstalling
NVDA. Both NVDA-specific<BR>Dectalks have issues. In the first
one, only Paul is available as a voice.<BR>To me, that version of
Dectalk for NVDA sounds similar to 4.4, though I have<BR>no idea
what DT version it is based on. The second Dectalk for NVDA
lists<BR>all 9 voices, but apparently is based on another version
of Dectalk. Some<BR>of those voices sound, um, different. Example:
Kipp sounds like he's going<BR>through puberty or something
similar. If anyone wants to experiment with/use<BR>Dectalk for
NVDA, write me off-list. As far as I know, Dectalk for NVDA
is<BR>not officially supported by the NVDA developers and I don't
know who created<BR>Dectalks for NVDA.<BR><BR>Regarding Dectalk
for Jaws, there is Dectalk Access32. Problem:
Freedom<BR>Scientific broke Dectalk Access32 functionality in an
earlier version of<BR>Jaws. Since a Jaws-specific version of
Dectalk Access32 is no longer sold or<BR>supported by FS, I sort
of understand why Freedom Scientific won't fix
the<BR>problem. Another member of this list found a workaround to
make Dectalk<BR>Access32 work with Jaws which involves
uninstalling Eloquence.<BR>Blake<BR><BR>-----Original
Message-----<BR>From: <A
href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com"
target=_blank>dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.<U></U>com</A><BR>[mailto:<A
href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com"
target=_blank>dectalk-bounces@<U></U>bluegrasspals.com</A>] On
Behalf Of Doris and Chris<BR>Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 8:56
PM<BR>To: DECtalk Discussions<BR>Subject: [DECtalk] DECTAlk 4.4
Public Domain?<BR><BR>with all the discussion of singing dectalks,
it was a couple of times<BR>mentioned that dectalk version 4.4 is
in the public domain.<BR><BR>Is there a version of this or can one
be made available that works with<BR>screenreaders?<BR><BR>I enjoy
the dectalk songs I have heard and am amazed at the creativity
and<BR>finesse and perfection that goes into those songs but this
is nothing I have<BR>any interst in persuing myself .<BR><BR>I
like dectalk for its clear speech and low footprint on older
systems and I<BR>would love to have a working version to use with
my screenreaders, i.e. jaws<BR>and nvda. For nvda especialy it
would be nice to have a free dectalk<BR>version. nvda comes with
espeak, which is free and open source. espeak is<BR>certainly
usable and I like its responsibeness but dectalk has much
clearer<BR>speech and would be much easier to understand for those
used to more human<BR>sounding synths.<BR><BR>With all the time
and energy devoted to making dectalk sing and talking<BR>about
this, if there is a public domain version of dectalk available,
could<BR>some of the time and energy be devoted to giving us a
free dectalk to just<BR>use with screenreaders or a free sapi
version?<BR>I do not know what would go into this but I'd like to
see something that is<BR>usable for the broader masses and
especialy for nvda users.<BR>nvda is coming of age and a decent
free synth with it would be such
a<BR>blessing!<BR><BR>Doris<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>______________________________<U></U>_________________<BR>DECtalk
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