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<DIV>I think "Legal" went out the window. I mean who owns the 4.40 Speak
Window? Heck, if I knew that, I'd buy the rights to sell the thing.
But because no one knows, I just give it out for free.</DIV>
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<DIV>SNOOPI BOTTEN </DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 2/1/2012 10:34:39 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
edbruckert@gmail.com writes:</DIV>
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just to be clear there are no legal versions of DECtalk in the
public domain, if there were I wouldn't have gone without a tool for years,
and is of course I have versions of DECtalk but they weren't able to work with
my screen reader.
<DIV>If there weren't public domain version I would be working to partner up
with somebody and create some tools which is basically what I did with enable
cuss I needed a SAPI.</DIV>
<DIV> Okay as far as versions of DECtalk that were made, there is
American English, British English, French, German, Chinese, and Korean. The
quality varies is there a lot of problems in doing this besides just creating
the phonemes.</DIV>
<DIV> In addition I did a special version of DECtalk that is used
by kinnor software which can chant the Torah and other things to prepare
one for bar mitzvah. It lacks letter to sound rules because both Hebrew and
Arabic letter to sound rules are extremely difficult because in a lot of texts
they don't write the vowels, which people can figure out but computers are
hardly data</DIV>
<DIV>. As an example right in English sentence remove all the vowels and
see if her friend can figure it out,<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Raymond Grote <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A title=mailto:musicalman1@comcast.net
href="mailto:musicalman1@comcast.net">musicalman1@comcast.net</A>></SPAN>
wrote:<BR>
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class=gmail_quote>Well, the sonic thing wasn't a real big thing at least for
me, nor anyone else I knew that used it. It sounded strange, and I never did
like dectalk above rates of400 or so.<BR>Going off topic here, I wonder if a
decent British dectalk was ever made?
<DIV class=im><BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- From: "Pitermach" <<A
title=mailto:pitermach@gmail.com href="mailto:pitermach@gmail.com"
target=_blank>pitermach@gmail.com</A>><BR>To: "DECtalk Discussions"
<<A title=mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com
href="mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com"
target=_blank>dectalk@bluegrasspals.com</A>><BR></DIV>Sent: Wednesday,
February 01, 2012 8:47 AM
<DIV class=HOEnZb>
<DIV class=h5><BR>Subject: Re: [DECtalk] DECTAlk 4.4 Public
Domain?<BR><BR><BR>
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class=gmail_quote>Actually yeah. The driver was written by Tyler and I
sort of helped him out with it. The first version only did Paul and had
sonic to speed the rate up even more. I asked him to add voices, and
that's the newer version where sonic had to be removed because it was
crashing things apparently.<BR><BR>On <A title="tel:2012-02-01 13"
href="tel:2012-02-01%2013" target=_blank value="+12012020113">2012-02-01
13</A>:52, Raymond Grote wrote:<BR>
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class=gmail_quote>Hi,<BR>I was under the impression that both Dectalks
were the same engine, just different versions of the driver, and the
newer one supported voices but the older one didn't?<BR><BR>-----
Original Message ----- From: "Pitermach" <<A
title=mailto:pitermach@gmail.com href="mailto:pitermach@gmail.com"
target=_blank>pitermach@gmail.com</A>><BR>To: "DECtalk Discussions"
<<A title=mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com
href="mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com"
target=_blank>dectalk@bluegrasspals.com</A>><BR>Sent: Wednesday,
February 01, 2012 5:43 AM<BR>Subject: Re: [DECtalk] DECTAlk 4.4 Public
Domain?<BR><BR><BR>
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class=gmail_quote>About the issue with the second dectalk, what
happens is almost every parameter is actually changed, except the
pitch and inflection, so after you change voices you just need to
manually raise the pitch or what ever to set it straight.<BR><BR>On <A
title="tel:2012-02-01 03" href="tel:2012-02-01%2003" target=_blank
value="+12012020103">2012-02-01 03</A>:18, Blake Roberts wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE
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class=gmail_quote>Doris,<BR>I discovered the other day that two
Dectalks for NVDA exist. I was able to<BR>try both out after
obtaining them and reinstalling NVDA. Both NVDA-specific<BR>Dectalks
have issues. In the first one, only Paul is available as a
voice.<BR>To me, that version of Dectalk for NVDA sounds similar to
4.4, though I have<BR>no idea what DT version it is based on. The
second Dectalk for NVDA lists<BR>all 9 voices, but apparently is
based on another version of Dectalk. Some<BR>of those voices sound,
um, different. Example: Kipp sounds like he's going<BR>through
puberty or something similar. If anyone wants to experiment
with/use<BR>Dectalk for NVDA, write me off-list. As far as I
know, Dectalk for NVDA is<BR>not officially supported by the NVDA
developers and I don't know who created<BR>Dectalks for
NVDA.<BR><BR>Regarding Dectalk for Jaws, there is Dectalk Access32.
Problem: Freedom<BR>Scientific broke Dectalk Access32 functionality
in an earlier version of<BR>Jaws. Since a Jaws-specific version of
Dectalk Access32 is no longer sold or<BR>supported by FS, I sort of
understand why Freedom Scientific won't fix the<BR>problem.
Another member of this list found a workaround to make
Dectalk<BR>Access32 work with Jaws which involves uninstalling
Eloquence.<BR>Blake<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: <A
title=mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com
href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com"
target=_blank>dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.<U></U>com</A><BR>[mailto:<A
title=mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com
href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com"
target=_blank>dectalk-bounces@<U></U>bluegrasspals.com</A>] On
Behalf Of Doris and Chris<BR>Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 8:56
PM<BR>To: DECtalk Discussions<BR>Subject: [DECtalk] DECTAlk 4.4
Public Domain?<BR><BR>with all the discussion of singing dectalks,
it was a couple of times<BR>mentioned that dectalk version 4.4 is in
the public domain.<BR><BR>Is there a version of this or can one be
made available that works with<BR>screenreaders?<BR><BR>I enjoy the
dectalk songs I have heard and am amazed at the creativity
and<BR>finesse and perfection that goes into those songs but this is
nothing I have<BR>any interst in persuing myself .<BR><BR>I like
dectalk for its clear speech and low footprint on older systems and
I<BR>would love to have a working version to use with my
screenreaders, i.e. jaws<BR>and nvda. For nvda especialy it would be
nice to have a free dectalk<BR>version. nvda comes with espeak,
which is free and open source. espeak is<BR>certainly usable and I
like its responsibeness but dectalk has much clearer<BR>speech and
would be much easier to understand for those used to more
human<BR>sounding synths.<BR><BR>With all the time and energy
devoted to making dectalk sing and talking<BR>about this, if there
is a public domain version of dectalk available, could<BR>some of
the time and energy be devoted to giving us a free dectalk to
just<BR>use with screenreaders or a free sapi version?<BR>I do not
know what would go into this but I'd like to see something that
is<BR>usable for the broader masses and especialy for nvda
users.<BR>nvda is coming of age and a decent free synth with it
would be such
a<BR>blessing!<BR><BR>Doris<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>______________________________<U></U>_________________<BR>DECtalk
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