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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Wow, interesting thing there. I know Patrick Perdue
made Dectalk sound Russian once. It sounded exactly like 4.3, with a Russian
accent. I say 4.3 because when it sang, there was vibrato, which 4.4 can't do
because of some bug I heard. I wonder if he used the Russian language and then
used phonemes to make it sound English, or if he used English and somehow made
it sound Russian. I'd bet the former, but either way would be hard. I doubt he
used a Speak window either, since those older versions of the Speak window had
only english support.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=edbruckert@gmail.com href="mailto:edbruckert@gmail.com">ebruckert
Bruckert</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=dectalk@bluegrasspals.com
href="mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com">DECtalk Discussions</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 01, 2012 10:34
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [DECtalk] DECTAlk 4.4 Public
Domain?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV> just to be clear there are no legal
versions of DECtalk in the public domain, if there were I wouldn't have gone
without a tool for years, and is of course I have versions of DECtalk but they
weren't able to work with my screen reader.
<DIV>If there weren't public domain version I would be working to partner up
with somebody and create some tools which is basically what I did with enable
cuss I needed a SAPI.</DIV>
<DIV> Okay as far as versions of DECtalk that were made, there is
American English, British English, French, German, Chinese, and Korean. The
quality varies is there a lot of problems in doing this besides just creating
the phonemes.</DIV>
<DIV> In addition I did a special version of DECtalk that is used
by kinnor software which can chant the Torah and other things to prepare
one for bar mitzvah. It lacks letter to sound rules because both Hebrew and
Arabic letter to sound rules are extremely difficult because in a lot of texts
they don't write the vowels, which people can figure out but computers are
hardly data</DIV>
<DIV>. As an example right in English sentence remove all the vowels and
see if her friend can figure it out,<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Raymond Grote <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:musicalman1@comcast.net">musicalman1@comcast.net</A>></SPAN>
wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote
style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Well,
the sonic thing wasn't a real big thing at least for me, nor anyone else I
knew that used it. It sounded strange, and I never did like dectalk above
rates of400 or so.<BR>Going off topic here, I wonder if a decent British
dectalk was ever made?
<DIV class=im><BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- From: "Pitermach" <<A
href="mailto:pitermach@gmail.com"
target=_blank>pitermach@gmail.com</A>><BR>To: "DECtalk Discussions"
<<A href="mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com"
target=_blank>dectalk@bluegrasspals.com</A>><BR></DIV>Sent: Wednesday,
February 01, 2012 8:47 AM
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<DIV class=h5><BR>Subject: Re: [DECtalk] DECTAlk 4.4 Public
Domain?<BR><BR><BR>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Actually
yeah. The driver was written by Tyler and I sort of helped him out with
it. The first version only did Paul and had sonic to speed the rate up
even more. I asked him to add voices, and that's the newer version where
sonic had to be removed because it was crashing things
apparently.<BR><BR>On <A href="tel:2012-02-01%2013" target=_blank
value="+12012020113">2012-02-01 13</A>:52, Raymond Grote wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote
style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Hi,<BR>I
was under the impression that both Dectalks were the same engine, just
different versions of the driver, and the newer one supported voices but
the older one didn't?<BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- From:
"Pitermach" <<A href="mailto:pitermach@gmail.com"
target=_blank>pitermach@gmail.com</A>><BR>To: "DECtalk Discussions"
<<A href="mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com"
target=_blank>dectalk@bluegrasspals.com</A>><BR>Sent: Wednesday,
February 01, 2012 5:43 AM<BR>Subject: Re: [DECtalk] DECTAlk 4.4 Public
Domain?<BR><BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote
style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">About
the issue with the second dectalk, what happens is almost every
parameter is actually changed, except the pitch and inflection, so
after you change voices you just need to manually raise the pitch or
what ever to set it straight.<BR><BR>On <A href="tel:2012-02-01%2003"
target=_blank value="+12012020103">2012-02-01 03</A>:18, Blake Roberts
wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote
style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Doris,<BR>I
discovered the other day that two Dectalks for NVDA exist. I was
able to<BR>try both out after obtaining them and reinstalling NVDA.
Both NVDA-specific<BR>Dectalks have issues. In the first one, only
Paul is available as a voice.<BR>To me, that version of Dectalk for
NVDA sounds similar to 4.4, though I have<BR>no idea what DT version
it is based on. The second Dectalk for NVDA lists<BR>all 9 voices,
but apparently is based on another version of Dectalk. Some<BR>of
those voices sound, um, different. Example: Kipp sounds like he's
going<BR>through puberty or something similar. If anyone wants to
experiment with/use<BR>Dectalk for NVDA, write me off-list. As far
as I know, Dectalk for NVDA is<BR>not officially supported by
the NVDA developers and I don't know who created<BR>Dectalks for
NVDA.<BR><BR>Regarding Dectalk for Jaws, there is Dectalk Access32.
Problem: Freedom<BR>Scientific broke Dectalk Access32 functionality
in an earlier version of<BR>Jaws. Since a Jaws-specific version of
Dectalk Access32 is no longer sold or<BR>supported by FS, I sort of
understand why Freedom Scientific won't fix the<BR>problem.
Another member of this list found a workaround to make
Dectalk<BR>Access32 work with Jaws which involves uninstalling
Eloquence.<BR>Blake<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: <A
href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com"
target=_blank>dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.<U></U>com</A><BR>[mailto:<A
href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com"
target=_blank>dectalk-bounces@<U></U>bluegrasspals.com</A>] On
Behalf Of Doris and Chris<BR>Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 8:56
PM<BR>To: DECtalk Discussions<BR>Subject: [DECtalk] DECTAlk 4.4
Public Domain?<BR><BR>with all the discussion of singing dectalks,
it was a couple of times<BR>mentioned that dectalk version 4.4 is in
the public domain.<BR><BR>Is there a version of this or can one be
made available that works with<BR>screenreaders?<BR><BR>I enjoy the
dectalk songs I have heard and am amazed at the creativity
and<BR>finesse and perfection that goes into those songs but this is
nothing I have<BR>any interst in persuing myself .<BR><BR>I like
dectalk for its clear speech and low footprint on older systems and
I<BR>would love to have a working version to use with my
screenreaders, i.e. jaws<BR>and nvda. For nvda especialy it would be
nice to have a free dectalk<BR>version. nvda comes with espeak,
which is free and open source. espeak is<BR>certainly usable and I
like its responsibeness but dectalk has much clearer<BR>speech and
would be much easier to understand for those used to more
human<BR>sounding synths.<BR><BR>With all the time and energy
devoted to making dectalk sing and talking<BR>about this, if there
is a public domain version of dectalk available, could<BR>some of
the time and energy be devoted to giving us a free dectalk to
just<BR>use with screenreaders or a free sapi version?<BR>I do not
know what would go into this but I'd like to see something that
is<BR>usable for the broader masses and especialy for nvda
users.<BR>nvda is coming of age and a decent free synth with it
would be such
a<BR>blessing!<BR><BR>Doris<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>______________________________<U></U>_________________<BR>DECtalk
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