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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It isn't. but you can fake it with phonemes if
you're very good. I can tell at some points where the american phonemes were
used, but it could have been just the language having some phonemes that sound
like the </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>English Dectalk. Listening to that singing Russian
chorus again reminds me why I was so excited when I got my hands on the speak
window, and figured out how to do about two percent of that kind of work. i
should get into it at some point, I just don't have the patience.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=beroberts@hughes.net href="mailto:beroberts@hughes.net">Blake
Roberts</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=dectalk@bluegrasspals.com
href="mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com">'DECtalk Discussions'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 01, 2012 9:47
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [DECtalk] Foreign Languages
(was DECTAlk 4.4 Public Domain?)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=171434402-02022012><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>So it's possible to, for example, make an English Dectalk
have a Spanish accent without having to actually change languages? How is that
done? I knew that English Dectalk can sing in other languages, but I did
not know it is also possible to add the relevant accent.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=171434402-02022012><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Blake</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> <A
href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com">dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com</A>
[mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Jake
McMahan<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 01, 2012 9:32 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
DECtalk Discussions<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [DECtalk] Foreign Languages (was
DECTAlk 4.4 Public Domain?)<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>He didn't get a dectalk with a german or russian
accent, he modified the phonemes to fit the particular accent.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=beroberts@hughes.net
href="mailto:beroberts@hughes.net">Blake Roberts</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 01, 2012 9:19 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=dectalk@bluegrasspals.com
href="mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com">'DECtalk Discussions'</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [DECtalk] Foreign Languages (was DECTAlk 4.4 Public
Domain?)</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=329281502-02022012><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I've wondered that myself at times. I guess we'll never
know how he got a Dectalk 4.3/4.4 with a German accent. It is my understanding
that the first Dectalk version with foreign languages (in addition to
American English) was 4.6 something.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=329281502-02022012><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Blake</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> <A
href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com">dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com</A>
[mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Raymond
Grote<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 01, 2012 9:01 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
DECtalk Discussions<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [DECtalk] Foreign Languages (was
DECTAlk 4.4 Public Domain?)<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yes, that definitely brings back
memories!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I just wish his site didn't go down. I wonder
where he got that version of Dectalk.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=beroberts@hughes.net href="mailto:beroberts@hughes.net">Blake
Roberts</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=dectalk@bluegrasspals.com
href="mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com">'DECtalk Discussions'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:50
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [DECtalk] Foreign
Languages (was DECTAlk 4.4 Public Domain?)</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=477034623-01022012><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I read somewhere that when Patrick made his Revenge of
Borris skit, he used a German Dectalk and made it sound Russian. That
production still amazes me after over 10 years. For fun, I'm attaching
Patrick's production so that list members can hear it again.
Enjoy!</FONT></SPAN></DIV><SPAN class=477034623-01022012></SPAN><FONT
face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2>Blake<SPAN
class=477034623-01022012></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> <A
href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com">dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com</A>
[mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Raymond
Grote<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:35 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
DECtalk Discussions<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [DECtalk] Foreign Languages (was
DECTAlk 4.4 Public Domain?)<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Wow, interesting thing there. I know Patrick
Perdue made Dectalk sound Russian once. It sounded exactly like 4.3, with a
Russian accent. I say 4.3 because when it sang, there was vibrato, which 4.4
can't do because of some bug I heard. I wonder if he used the Russian
language and then used phonemes to make it sound English, or if he used
English and somehow made it sound Russian. I'd bet the former, but either
way would be hard. I doubt he used a Speak window either, since those older
versions of the Speak window had only english support.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=edbruckert@gmail.com href="mailto:edbruckert@gmail.com">ebruckert
Bruckert</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=dectalk@bluegrasspals.com
href="mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com">DECtalk Discussions</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 01, 2012
10:34 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [DECtalk] DECTAlk 4.4
Public Domain?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV> just to be clear there are no legal
versions of DECtalk in the public domain, if there were I wouldn't have
gone without a tool for years, and is of course I have versions of DECtalk
but they weren't able to work with my screen reader.
<DIV>If there weren't public domain version I would be working to partner
up with somebody and create some tools which is basically what I did with
enable cuss I needed a SAPI.</DIV>
<DIV> Okay as far as versions of DECtalk that were made, there
is American English, British English, French, German, Chinese, and Korean.
The quality varies is there a lot of problems in doing this besides just
creating the phonemes.</DIV>
<DIV> In addition I did a special version of DECtalk that is
used by kinnor software which can chant the Torah and other things
to prepare one for bar mitzvah. It lacks letter to sound rules because
both Hebrew and Arabic letter to sound rules are extremely difficult
because in a lot of texts they don't write the vowels, which people can
figure out but computers are hardly data</DIV>
<DIV>. As an example right in English sentence remove all the vowels
and see if her friend can figure it out,<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Raymond Grote
<SPAN dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:musicalman1@comcast.net">musicalman1@comcast.net</A>></SPAN>
wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote
style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Well,
the sonic thing wasn't a real big thing at least for me, nor anyone else
I knew that used it. It sounded strange, and I never did like dectalk
above rates of400 or so.<BR>Going off topic here, I wonder if a decent
British dectalk was ever made?
<DIV class=im><BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- From: "Pitermach"
<<A href="mailto:pitermach@gmail.com"
target=_blank>pitermach@gmail.com</A>><BR>To: "DECtalk Discussions"
<<A href="mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com"
target=_blank>dectalk@bluegrasspals.com</A>><BR></DIV>Sent:
Wednesday, February 01, 2012 8:47 AM
<DIV class=HOEnZb>
<DIV class=h5><BR>Subject: Re: [DECtalk] DECTAlk 4.4 Public
Domain?<BR><BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote
style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Actually
yeah. The driver was written by Tyler and I sort of helped him out
with it. The first version only did Paul and had sonic to speed the
rate up even more. I asked him to add voices, and that's the newer
version where sonic had to be removed because it was crashing things
apparently.<BR><BR>On <A href="tel:2012-02-01%2013" target=_blank
value="+12012020113">2012-02-01 13</A>:52, Raymond Grote wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote
style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Hi,<BR>I
was under the impression that both Dectalks were the same engine,
just different versions of the driver, and the newer one supported
voices but the older one didn't?<BR><BR>----- Original Message -----
From: "Pitermach" <<A href="mailto:pitermach@gmail.com"
target=_blank>pitermach@gmail.com</A>><BR>To: "DECtalk
Discussions" <<A href="mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com"
target=_blank>dectalk@bluegrasspals.com</A>><BR>Sent: Wednesday,
February 01, 2012 5:43 AM<BR>Subject: Re: [DECtalk] DECTAlk 4.4
Public Domain?<BR><BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote
style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">About
the issue with the second dectalk, what happens is almost every
parameter is actually changed, except the pitch and inflection, so
after you change voices you just need to manually raise the pitch
or what ever to set it straight.<BR><BR>On <A
href="tel:2012-02-01%2003" target=_blank
value="+12012020103">2012-02-01 03</A>:18, Blake Roberts
wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote
style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Doris,<BR>I
discovered the other day that two Dectalks for NVDA exist. I was
able to<BR>try both out after obtaining them and reinstalling
NVDA. Both NVDA-specific<BR>Dectalks have issues. In the first
one, only Paul is available as a voice.<BR>To me, that version
of Dectalk for NVDA sounds similar to 4.4, though I have<BR>no
idea what DT version it is based on. The second Dectalk for NVDA
lists<BR>all 9 voices, but apparently is based on another
version of Dectalk. Some<BR>of those voices sound, um,
different. Example: Kipp sounds like he's going<BR>through
puberty or something similar. If anyone wants to experiment
with/use<BR>Dectalk for NVDA, write me off-list. As far as
I know, Dectalk for NVDA is<BR>not officially supported by
the NVDA developers and I don't know who created<BR>Dectalks for
NVDA.<BR><BR>Regarding Dectalk for Jaws, there is Dectalk
Access32. Problem: Freedom<BR>Scientific broke Dectalk Access32
functionality in an earlier version of<BR>Jaws. Since a
Jaws-specific version of Dectalk Access32 is no longer sold
or<BR>supported by FS, I sort of understand why Freedom
Scientific won't fix the<BR>problem. Another member of this list
found a workaround to make Dectalk<BR>Access32 work with Jaws
which involves uninstalling
Eloquence.<BR>Blake<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From:
<A href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com"
target=_blank>dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.<U></U>com</A><BR>[mailto:<A
href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com"
target=_blank>dectalk-bounces@<U></U>bluegrasspals.com</A>] On
Behalf Of Doris and Chris<BR>Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012
8:56 PM<BR>To: DECtalk Discussions<BR>Subject: [DECtalk] DECTAlk
4.4 Public Domain?<BR><BR>with all the discussion of singing
dectalks, it was a couple of times<BR>mentioned that dectalk
version 4.4 is in the public domain.<BR><BR>Is there a version
of this or can one be made available that works
with<BR>screenreaders?<BR><BR>I enjoy the dectalk songs I have
heard and am amazed at the creativity and<BR>finesse and
perfection that goes into those songs but this is nothing I
have<BR>any interst in persuing myself .<BR><BR>I like dectalk
for its clear speech and low footprint on older systems and
I<BR>would love to have a working version to use with my
screenreaders, i.e. jaws<BR>and nvda. For nvda especialy it
would be nice to have a free dectalk<BR>version. nvda comes with
espeak, which is free and open source. espeak is<BR>certainly
usable and I like its responsibeness but dectalk has much
clearer<BR>speech and would be much easier to understand for
those used to more human<BR>sounding synths.<BR><BR>With all the
time and energy devoted to making dectalk sing and
talking<BR>about this, if there is a public domain version of
dectalk available, could<BR>some of the time and energy be
devoted to giving us a free dectalk to just<BR>use with
screenreaders or a free sapi version?<BR>I do not know what
would go into this but I'd like to see something that
is<BR>usable for the broader masses and especialy for nvda
users.<BR>nvda is coming of age and a decent free synth with it
would be such
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