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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>He didn't get a dectalk with a german or russian
accent, he modified the phonemes to fit the particular accent.
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=beroberts@hughes.net
href="mailto:beroberts@hughes.net">Blake Roberts</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 01, 2012 9:19 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=dectalk@bluegrasspals.com
href="mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com">'DECtalk Discussions'</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [DECtalk] Foreign Languages (was DECTAlk 4.4 Public
Domain?)</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=329281502-02022012><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>I've wondered that myself at times. I guess we'll never know
how he got a Dectalk 4.3/4.4 with a German accent. It is my understanding that
the first Dectalk version with foreign languages (in addition to American
English) was 4.6 something.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=329281502-02022012><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Blake</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> <A
href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com">dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com</A>
[mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Raymond
Grote<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 01, 2012 9:01 PM<BR><B>To:</B> DECtalk
Discussions<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [DECtalk] Foreign Languages (was DECTAlk 4.4
Public Domain?)<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Yes, that definitely brings back
memories!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I just wish his site didn't go down. I wonder where
he got that version of Dectalk.</FONT></DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=beroberts@hughes.net href="mailto:beroberts@hughes.net">Blake
Roberts</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=dectalk@bluegrasspals.com
href="mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com">'DECtalk Discussions'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:50
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [DECtalk] Foreign Languages
(was DECTAlk 4.4 Public Domain?)</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=477034623-01022012><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>I read somewhere that when Patrick made his Revenge of
Borris skit, he used a German Dectalk and made it sound Russian. That
production still amazes me after over 10 years. For fun, I'm attaching
Patrick's production so that list members can hear it again.
Enjoy!</FONT></SPAN></DIV><SPAN class=477034623-01022012></SPAN><FONT
face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2>Blake<SPAN
class=477034623-01022012></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><BR>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> <A
href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com">dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com</A>
[mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Raymond
Grote<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:35 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
DECtalk Discussions<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [DECtalk] Foreign Languages (was
DECTAlk 4.4 Public Domain?)<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Wow, interesting thing there. I know Patrick
Perdue made Dectalk sound Russian once. It sounded exactly like 4.3, with a
Russian accent. I say 4.3 because when it sang, there was vibrato, which 4.4
can't do because of some bug I heard. I wonder if he used the Russian language
and then used phonemes to make it sound English, or if he used English and
somehow made it sound Russian. I'd bet the former, but either way would be
hard. I doubt he used a Speak window either, since those older versions of the
Speak window had only english support.</FONT></DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=edbruckert@gmail.com href="mailto:edbruckert@gmail.com">ebruckert
Bruckert</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=dectalk@bluegrasspals.com
href="mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com">DECtalk Discussions</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 01, 2012
10:34 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [DECtalk] DECTAlk 4.4
Public Domain?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV> just to be clear there are no legal
versions of DECtalk in the public domain, if there were I wouldn't have gone
without a tool for years, and is of course I have versions of DECtalk but
they weren't able to work with my screen reader.
<DIV>If there weren't public domain version I would be working to partner up
with somebody and create some tools which is basically what I did with
enable cuss I needed a SAPI.</DIV>
<DIV> Okay as far as versions of DECtalk that were made, there
is American English, British English, French, German, Chinese, and Korean.
The quality varies is there a lot of problems in doing this besides just
creating the phonemes.</DIV>
<DIV> In addition I did a special version of DECtalk that is
used by kinnor software which can chant the Torah and other things to
prepare one for bar mitzvah. It lacks letter to sound rules because both
Hebrew and Arabic letter to sound rules are extremely difficult because in a
lot of texts they don't write the vowels, which people can figure out but
computers are hardly data</DIV>
<DIV>. As an example right in English sentence remove all the vowels
and see if her friend can figure it out,<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Raymond Grote <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:musicalman1@comcast.net">musicalman1@comcast.net</A>></SPAN>
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class=gmail_quote>Well, the sonic thing wasn't a real big thing at least
for me, nor anyone else I knew that used it. It sounded strange, and I
never did like dectalk above rates of400 or so.<BR>Going off topic here, I
wonder if a decent British dectalk was ever made?
<DIV class=im><BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- From: "Pitermach"
<<A href="mailto:pitermach@gmail.com"
target=_blank>pitermach@gmail.com</A>><BR>To: "DECtalk Discussions"
<<A href="mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com"
target=_blank>dectalk@bluegrasspals.com</A>><BR></DIV>Sent: Wednesday,
February 01, 2012 8:47 AM
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<DIV class=h5><BR>Subject: Re: [DECtalk] DECTAlk 4.4 Public
Domain?<BR><BR><BR>
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class=gmail_quote>Actually yeah. The driver was written by Tyler and I
sort of helped him out with it. The first version only did Paul and had
sonic to speed the rate up even more. I asked him to add voices, and
that's the newer version where sonic had to be removed because it was
crashing things apparently.<BR><BR>On <A href="tel:2012-02-01%2013"
target=_blank value="+12012020113">2012-02-01 13</A>:52, Raymond Grote
wrote:<BR>
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class=gmail_quote>Hi,<BR>I was under the impression that both Dectalks
were the same engine, just different versions of the driver, and the
newer one supported voices but the older one didn't?<BR><BR>-----
Original Message ----- From: "Pitermach" <<A
href="mailto:pitermach@gmail.com"
target=_blank>pitermach@gmail.com</A>><BR>To: "DECtalk Discussions"
<<A href="mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com"
target=_blank>dectalk@bluegrasspals.com</A>><BR>Sent: Wednesday,
February 01, 2012 5:43 AM<BR>Subject: Re: [DECtalk] DECTAlk 4.4 Public
Domain?<BR><BR><BR>
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class=gmail_quote>About the issue with the second dectalk, what
happens is almost every parameter is actually changed, except the
pitch and inflection, so after you change voices you just need to
manually raise the pitch or what ever to set it straight.<BR><BR>On
<A href="tel:2012-02-01%2003" target=_blank
value="+12012020103">2012-02-01 03</A>:18, Blake Roberts wrote:<BR>
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class=gmail_quote>Doris,<BR>I discovered the other day that two
Dectalks for NVDA exist. I was able to<BR>try both out after
obtaining them and reinstalling NVDA. Both
NVDA-specific<BR>Dectalks have issues. In the first one, only Paul
is available as a voice.<BR>To me, that version of Dectalk for
NVDA sounds similar to 4.4, though I have<BR>no idea what DT
version it is based on. The second Dectalk for NVDA lists<BR>all 9
voices, but apparently is based on another version of Dectalk.
Some<BR>of those voices sound, um, different. Example: Kipp sounds
like he's going<BR>through puberty or something similar. If anyone
wants to experiment with/use<BR>Dectalk for NVDA, write me
off-list. As far as I know, Dectalk for NVDA is<BR>not
officially supported by the NVDA developers and I don't know who
created<BR>Dectalks for NVDA.<BR><BR>Regarding Dectalk for Jaws,
there is Dectalk Access32. Problem: Freedom<BR>Scientific broke
Dectalk Access32 functionality in an earlier version of<BR>Jaws.
Since a Jaws-specific version of Dectalk Access32 is no longer
sold or<BR>supported by FS, I sort of understand why Freedom
Scientific won't fix the<BR>problem. Another member of this list
found a workaround to make Dectalk<BR>Access32 work with Jaws
which involves uninstalling
Eloquence.<BR>Blake<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: <A
href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com"
target=_blank>dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.<U></U>com</A><BR>[mailto:<A
href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com"
target=_blank>dectalk-bounces@<U></U>bluegrasspals.com</A>] On
Behalf Of Doris and Chris<BR>Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 8:56
PM<BR>To: DECtalk Discussions<BR>Subject: [DECtalk] DECTAlk 4.4
Public Domain?<BR><BR>with all the discussion of singing dectalks,
it was a couple of times<BR>mentioned that dectalk version 4.4 is
in the public domain.<BR><BR>Is there a version of this or can one
be made available that works with<BR>screenreaders?<BR><BR>I enjoy
the dectalk songs I have heard and am amazed at the creativity
and<BR>finesse and perfection that goes into those songs but this
is nothing I have<BR>any interst in persuing myself .<BR><BR>I
like dectalk for its clear speech and low footprint on older
systems and I<BR>would love to have a working version to use with
my screenreaders, i.e. jaws<BR>and nvda. For nvda especialy it
would be nice to have a free dectalk<BR>version. nvda comes with
espeak, which is free and open source. espeak is<BR>certainly
usable and I like its responsibeness but dectalk has much
clearer<BR>speech and would be much easier to understand for those
used to more human<BR>sounding synths.<BR><BR>With all the time
and energy devoted to making dectalk sing and talking<BR>about
this, if there is a public domain version of dectalk available,
could<BR>some of the time and energy be devoted to giving us a
free dectalk to just<BR>use with screenreaders or a free sapi
version?<BR>I do not know what would go into this but I'd like to
see something that is<BR>usable for the broader masses and
especialy for nvda users.<BR>nvda is coming of age and a decent
free synth with it would be such
a<BR>blessing!<BR><BR>Doris<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>______________________________<U></U>_________________<BR>DECtalk
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