<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">the only h in hurricane that is tool long is the one after the category 4 part. new sounds like new to me. <div><br><div><div>On Jan 30, 2012, at 12:28 PM, <a href="mailto:Dectalk@aol.com">Dectalk@aol.com</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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<div>After posting the link I tried it myself. I think these files were
updated because I'm now understanding them at 100 percent. However, "New"
still sounds like "Moo", but this is releasable. I actually like it
now. Wow! I never thought you guys would pull it off! I
hope you fix "New", and the "H" in "Hurricane" is too long, but this is damn
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<div>In a message dated 1/30/2012 12:15:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
<a href="mailto:Dectalk@aol.com">Dectalk@aol.com</a> writes:</div>
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<div>Let me share the link to the unreleased demos that I'm talking
about. And actually the word "New" sounds like "Moo".</div>
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<div>To hear samples of all the voices, just change the name at the end of the
link.</div>
<div><a title="http://davesvideoservicesco.startlogic.com/dennis/" href="http://davesvideoservicesco.startlogic.com/dennis/">http://davesvideoservicesco.startlogic.com/dennis/</a></div>
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<div>SNOOPI BOTTEN </div>
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<div>In a message dated 1/30/2012 11:49:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
<a href="mailto:bmisch2002@gmail.com">bmisch2002@gmail.com</a> writes:</div>
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ductal demo sounds like 4.61 or something close to it.
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<div>On Jan 30, 2012, at 11:08 AM, <a title="mailto:Dectalk@aol.com" href="mailto:Dectalk@aol.com">Dectalk@aol.com</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
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<div>Fine, release it, whatever. The latest MP3 recordings of
Dectalk Reader 1 have pops in most of the voices, and the weather report
in the demo is only like 80 percent understandable. So fine,
I'll say it's the best thing I ever heard in my life if that's what you
want. It's a lie, but gm starting to feel like the truth doesn't
exist any more.</div>
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<div>"Four score and 7 years ago our Father's brought forth a new nation",
or whatever that line is. The word "New" is annoyingly
pronounced. I have no clue what is wrong with it, it sounds like
[nuwuwuw], rather than [nuw]. I'm not sure, it's
just annoying. My point is, if you are not offering an
online demo, or anything that people can't try, and if those two
demos are the only thing that people hear, and if it won't even have
a dictionary that people can edit how it says words, then, then,
then. Oh good grief. </div>
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<div>SNOOPI BOTTEN </div>
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<div>In a message dated 1/30/2012 10:31:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, <a title="mailto:edbruckert@gmail.com" href="mailto:edbruckert@gmail.com">edbruckert@gmail.com</a> writes:</div>
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forgot to mention that sometime in the late 80s when Dennis added a
female data set to DECtalk the sex option change from a scaling function
to simply selecting a male or female phonetic base, but in no way can I
remember when that occurred.
<div> As a general comment I alone did the
four point X versions of DECtalk as Dennis was born at that point, so I
know them intimately, but even years ago people would prefer different
versions and trying to make one sound exactly like the other was
exceedingly difficult and a lot of it occurred because of changes in the
overall coding that were done not because we wanted to but because we
had to meet evolving programming standards to keep it running on various
tools because if we didn't sell DECtalk we simply went home and
unfortunately economics force the focus away from the screen reader
environment. I did not like this change but DECtalk more than once
was in survival mode, I am using the latest version and to say it's on
understandable is an exaggeration,</div>
<div>preferring a different version is very understandable. I have no
problems with people saying what I want but understand this is anything
but easy with limited funds, I donate my time but other people cannot
and the fact that I'm going blind and I am not a Windows or SAPI
programmer there are limits to what can be done. But I think junk is an
unfair exaggeration.<br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 9:14 PM, Jake McMahan
<span dir="ltr"><<a title="mailto:mcmahan.jake@gmail.com" href="mailto:mcmahan.jake@gmail.com">mcmahan.jake@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div> I have to say, I love the sound of
dectalk reader one. I really want this version badly. I
don't care if it will sing, and I don't care about anything
else. I love it the way it is. To me, it's not garbage,
it's a version of dectalk that I personally like. I want this
version, again.</div></div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="mailto:Dectalk@aol.com" href="mailto:Dectalk@aol.com" target="_blank">Dectalk@aol.com</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 29, 2012 9:09 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com" href="mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com" target="_blank">dectalk@bluegrasspals.com</a> </div>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [DECtalk] how to do gender change in
Dectalk?</div></div></div></div></div>
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<div>Um, Ed, excuse me but Blake and I both heard the latest MP3
samples of Dectalk Reader 1. The speech is not
understandable.</div>
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<div>SNOOPI BOTTEN </div>
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<div>In a message dated 1/29/2012 8:59:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
<a title="mailto:musicalman1@comcast.net" href="mailto:musicalman1@comcast.net" target="_blank">musicalman1@comcast.net</a> writes:</div>
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<div><font face="Arial">Well, I've stated this opinion time and time
again, and every time I do, people seem to think I'm nuts or that
I'm too conservative.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">First off, people are nnot stupid. If they
call it Dectalk Reader, then who in their right mind will think
snoopi's instructions on making it sing, will work with a reader of
all things?</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">And, the Dectalk that Enable has, isn't
unusable. there are some on this list that like it for what it is. I
myself do not, but that's my opinion. One man's garbage is another
man's treasure...</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">This isn't the first time someone released a
Dectalk that wasn't a thing like what we all know. Force did it,
Fonix did it. But everyone still stuckw ith Dectalk 4.3 and 4.4. So
I don't see why Enable is going to just ruin everything. If people
don't like it, they will simply not use it just like they did with
everything else. I do not agree with Enable's motives, but I will
never tell them their product is garbage. Let's say I tell someone
on this list their production is garbage. they worked for hours on
it. They will most likely be glad to have received the high
complement? Even if it's the worst piece of garbage you ever heard.
It's simply not anything close to constructive to say it that way.
So now Enable just releases what they have because some people
use it and they've fired those who told them off. It's sad but true.
They have their faults, we have ours. If we don't like them, that's
how it is. But I was seriously hoping the Enable business was over
with. They'd either fix it or they wouldn't. *sigh*</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">I continue to hope that Dennis will like what
eventually becomes of Dectalk. Maybe enable will do something for
the better, or someone else will. But we have no hopeful dectalk
future, which is sad. I believe all of us, that being Enable and
those of us who were very harsh on them, had a part in that. I am so
fed up with this argument between us and Enable! Let's just not post
anything else degrading about them. Please? we've done that
enough!</font></div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><b>From:</b> <a title="mailto:edbruckert@gmail.com" href="mailto:edbruckert@gmail.com" target="_blank">ebruckert
Bruckert</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com" href="mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com" target="_blank">DECtalk
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 29,
2012 9:30 AM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [DECtalk] how to
do gender change in Dectalk?</div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font><font face="Arial"></font><font face="Arial"></font><br></div> I want to clarify
some things and some things that make me quite upset. Making
statements like Dennis would roll over in his grave when you never
even knew Dennis I find disrespectful. Dennis was a person I
always looked up to and tried to emulate in my life. And he would
never denigrate people the way you seem inclined to do, especially
when in plain English you don't know what the hell you're talking
about!! the issue of singing in the SAPI version has nothing to do
with DECtalk if you want to get mad at somebody get mad at
Microsoft for creating a specification that doesn't allow for
commands to be passed to a synthesizer. The DECtalk created could
sing if you get get the damn commands to it. In plain
English I'm thoroughly disgusted with your rants.
<div> The sex command was created for the original
DECtalk because we only had one acoustic database so Dennis did
the best he could trying to develop an algorithm to scale
performance between a male and a female which works to some extent
but can't be perfect due to the complexities involved in that it's
not linear.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 8:45 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a title="mailto:Dectalk@aol.com" href="mailto:Dectalk@aol.com" target="_blank">Dectalk@aol.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Thank you! I knew it was possible but I never totally
knew how. I am trying to jump start my business called
"THE FLAME OF HOPE". As most of you know I have over 1200
songs, and right now I'm trying to put as many of them as I can
to music. Some I flat out can't because when I first
started I made really bad errors such as not doing the entire
song. Part of it was I started with easy sheet music which
often only has one verse. But I'm doing new songs as
well.</div>
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<div>The reason is, people now have avatars and easy to use
animation software. So I'm marketing the free 4.40 Speak
Window which is free for the asking, then I'm selling my
instructions on how to create voices and make them sing.
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<div>I bring this up because I have a question for all of
you. Enable Rehab is getting ready to release "DECTALK
READER 1", and there might be an Earthquake on that day because
Dennis Klatt might roll over in his grave. This thing as
far as I know won't sing. The voices from the latest I
have heard are still bad quality because the voices pop in the
MP3 recordings that I have heart. I don't think it will
come with a dictionary so people can edit how words are
said. And in my opinion, this thing is still
garbage! I got fired for saying that but big deal, I'm
only saying the truth!</div>
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<div>Anyway, Enable Rehab won't take "Dectalk" out of the name
because they feel the name is a marketing tool. I
personally think it's fraud because it will be so different from
the Dectalk that we all know and love that it really isn't
Dectalk. They're calling it "Reader 1" so people will know
by the title that it will only read. (Sick)</div>
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<div>Anyway, I'm upset because thanks to both E voice and now
the internet, I think I'm as associated with Dectalk as much as
Dennis Klatt. This upcoming release is making me sick
because I'm afraid people might buy this Dectalk SAPI garbage
and think my instructions will work with it. So I'm very
upset that they are calling it Dectalk anything. They
really need to remove "Dectalk" from the title because I view it
as a deception of the worse kind!</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Here is my question. I think a petition should be
started because this is just wrong! BUT, I don't know if
the petition should be to just drop "Dectalk" from the name, OR,
to just scrap this garbage. And, I don't want to be the
one to start the petition because I don't know how. But if
a petition does get started, it needs to go all over the
internet and get back to Enable Rehab.</div>
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<div>I just feel that by marking this garbage under "Dectalk",
they are taking advantage of both the blind and the disabled
communities because they know "Dectalk" will bring in sales just
because of the name. And because my name is known with
Dectalk, I feel this soon to be released garbage will effect my
image and my business.</div>
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<div>SNOOPI BOTTEN </div>
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<div>In a message dated 1/28/2012 9:49:19 P.M. Eastern Standard
Time, <a title="mailto:beroberts@hughes.net" href="mailto:beroberts@hughes.net" target="_blank">beroberts@hughes.net</a> writes:</div>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" color="#000000" size="2" face="Arial">Thanks Alex. That syntax works in both DT 4.4 and
4.3. I did a quick test<br>with both versions. Note to
Snoopi: the female versions of Frank and Dennis<br>sound odd.
I think breathiness will need to be changed with the br
command<br>for best results.<br>Blake<br><br>-----Original
Message-----<br>From: <a title="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com" href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com" target="_blank">dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com</a><br>[mailto:<a title="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com" href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com" target="_blank">dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com</a>] On Behalf
Of Alex H.<br>Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 9:06 PM<br>To:
DECtalk Discussions<br>Subject: Re: [DECtalk] how to do gender
change in Dectalk?<br><br>sorry, [:nf][:dv sx 0] should do
it.<br><br>On 1/28/12, Alex H. <<a title="mailto:linuxx64.bashsh@gmail.com" href="mailto:linuxx64.bashsh@gmail.com" target="_blank">linuxx64.bashsh@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>
[:sx 0]<br>><br>> On 1/28/12, Blake Roberts <<a title="mailto:beroberts@hughes.net" href="mailto:beroberts@hughes.net" target="_blank">beroberts@hughes.net</a>> wrote:<br>>>
Hi all,<br>>> Snoopi asked me to pose a question to the
listserv. He knows about <br>>> the gender change
command, sx. Does it work in DT 4.4? If so, what is
<br>>> the correct syntax?<br>>> Snoopi wants to
program the song Emotion by The Bee Gees using a <br>>>
breathy female Frank or Dennis. I know that may sound funny,
but it <br>>> is a serious thing. If anyone knows how to
change Frank or Dennis to <br>>> female, please share. I
figure someone on here probably does. <br>>>
Alternatively, if anyone else wants to program a female Frank
or <br>>> Dennis version of the song, Snoopi is willing
to do the mixing with <br>>> music after fixing any
phoneems that may be incorrect. He is waiting <br>>> for
his communication device to be repaired, so Snoopi will not be
<br>>> able to program the song for about a
month.<br>>> Blake<br>>>
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