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<DIV>Let me share the link to the unreleased demos that I'm talking about.
And actually the word "New" sounds like "Moo".</DIV>
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<DIV>To hear samples of all the voices, just change the name at the end of the
link.</DIV>
<DIV><A
href="http://davesvideoservicesco.startlogic.com/dennis/">http://davesvideoservicesco.startlogic.com/dennis/</A></DIV>
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<DIV>SNOOPI BOTTEN </DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 1/30/2012 11:49:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
bmisch2002@gmail.com writes:</DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" color=#000000 size=2 face=Arial>that
ductal demo sounds like 4.61 or something close to it.
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<DIV>On Jan 30, 2012, at 11:08 AM, <A title=mailto:Dectalk@aol.com
href="mailto:Dectalk@aol.com">Dectalk@aol.com</A> wrote:</DIV><BR
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<DIV>Fine, release it, whatever. The latest MP3 recordings of Dectalk
Reader 1 have pops in most of the voices, and the weather report in the demo
is only like 80 percent understandable. So fine, I'll say it's
the best thing I ever heard in my life if that's what you want. It's a
lie, but gm starting to feel like the truth doesn't exist any more.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>"Four score and 7 years ago our Father's brought forth a new nation",
or whatever that line is. The word "New" is annoyingly
pronounced. I have no clue what is wrong with it, it sounds like
[nuwuwuw], rather than [nuw]. I'm not sure, it's
just annoying. My point is, if you are not offering an
online demo, or anything that people can't try, and if those two
demos are the only thing that people hear, and if it won't even have a
dictionary that people can edit how it says words, then, then, then.
Oh good grief. </DIV>
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<DIV>SNOOPI BOTTEN </DIV>
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<DIV>
<DIV>In a message dated 1/30/2012 10:31:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, <A
title=mailto:edbruckert@gmail.com
href="mailto:edbruckert@gmail.com">edbruckert@gmail.com</A> writes:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><FONT
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" color=#000000 size=2
face=Arial> additional information, I
forgot to mention that sometime in the late 80s when Dennis added a female
data set to DECtalk the sex option change from a scaling function to
simply selecting a male or female phonetic base, but in no way can I
remember when that occurred.
<DIV> As a general comment I alone did the four
point X versions of DECtalk as Dennis was born at that point, so I know
them intimately, but even years ago people would prefer different versions
and trying to make one sound exactly like the other was exceedingly
difficult and a lot of it occurred because of changes in the overall
coding that were done not because we wanted to but because we had to meet
evolving programming standards to keep it running on various tools because
if we didn't sell DECtalk we simply went home and unfortunately economics
force the focus away from the screen reader environment. I did not
like this change but DECtalk more than once was in survival mode, I am
using the latest version and to say it's on understandable is an
exaggeration,</DIV>
<DIV>preferring a different version is very understandable. I have no
problems with people saying what I want but understand this is anything
but easy with limited funds, I donate my time but other people cannot and
the fact that I'm going blind and I am not a Windows or SAPI programmer
there are limits to what can be done. But I think junk is an unfair
exaggeration.<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 9:14 PM, Jake McMahan <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A title=mailto:mcmahan.jake@gmail.com
href="mailto:mcmahan.jake@gmail.com">mcmahan.jake@gmail.com</A>></SPAN>
wrote:<BR>
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<DIV> I have to say, I love the sound of
dectalk reader one. I really want this version badly. I
don't care if it will sing, and I don't care about anything else.
I love it the way it is. To me, it's not garbage, it's a version
of dectalk that I personally like. I want this version,
again.</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=mailto:Dectalk@aol.com
href="mailto:Dectalk@aol.com" target=_blank>Dectalk@aol.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 29, 2012 9:09 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com
href="mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com"
target=_blank>dectalk@bluegrasspals.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV class=h5>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [DECtalk] how to do gender change in
Dectalk?</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>Um, Ed, excuse me but Blake and I both heard the latest MP3 samples
of Dectalk Reader 1. The speech is not understandable.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>SNOOPI BOTTEN </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>In a message dated 1/29/2012 8:59:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, <A
title=mailto:musicalman1@comcast.net
href="mailto:musicalman1@comcast.net"
target=_blank>musicalman1@comcast.net</A> writes:</DIV>
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style="BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><FONT
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Well, I've stated this opinion time and time
again, and every time I do, people seem to think I'm nuts or that I'm
too conservative.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>First off, people are nnot stupid. If they call
it Dectalk Reader, then who in their right mind will think snoopi's
instructions on making it sing, will work with a reader of all
things?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>And, the Dectalk that Enable has, isn't
unusable. there are some on this list that like it for what it is. I
myself do not, but that's my opinion. One man's garbage is another
man's treasure...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>This isn't the first time someone released a
Dectalk that wasn't a thing like what we all know. Force did it, Fonix
did it. But everyone still stuckw ith Dectalk 4.3 and 4.4. So I don't
see why Enable is going to just ruin everything. If people don't like
it, they will simply not use it just like they did with everything
else. I do not agree with Enable's motives, but I will never tell them
their product is garbage. Let's say I tell someone on this list their
production is garbage. they worked for hours on it. They will most
likely be glad to have received the high complement? Even if it's the
worst piece of garbage you ever heard. It's simply not anything close
to constructive to say it that way. So now Enable just releases
what they have because some people use it and they've fired those who
told them off. It's sad but true. They have their faults, we have
ours. If we don't like them, that's how it is. But I was seriously
hoping the Enable business was over with. They'd either fix it or they
wouldn't. *sigh*</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I continue to hope that Dennis will like what
eventually becomes of Dectalk. Maybe enable will do something for the
better, or someone else will. But we have no hopeful dectalk future,
which is sad. I believe all of us, that being Enable and those of us
who were very harsh on them, had a part in that. I am so fed up with
this argument between us and Enable! Let's just not post anything
else degrading about them. Please? we've done that
enough!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B>From:</B> <A
title=mailto:edbruckert@gmail.com href="mailto:edbruckert@gmail.com"
target=_blank>ebruckert Bruckert</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com
href="mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com" target=_blank>DECtalk
Discussions</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 29, 2012
9:30 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [DECtalk] how to
do gender change in Dectalk?</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT><FONT face=Arial></FONT><FONT
face=Arial></FONT><BR></DIV> I want to clarify
some things and some things that make me quite upset. Making
statements like Dennis would roll over in his grave when you never
even knew Dennis I find disrespectful. Dennis was a person I always
looked up to and tried to emulate in my life. And he would never
denigrate people the way you seem inclined to do, especially when in
plain English you don't know what the hell you're talking about!!
the issue of singing in the SAPI version has nothing to do with
DECtalk if you want to get mad at somebody get mad at Microsoft for
creating a specification that doesn't allow for commands to be
passed to a synthesizer. The DECtalk created could sing if you get
get the damn commands to it. In plain English I'm thoroughly
disgusted with your rants.
<DIV> The sex command was created for the original
DECtalk because we only had one acoustic database so Dennis did the
best he could trying to develop an algorithm to scale performance
between a male and a female which works to some extent but can't be
perfect due to the complexities involved in that it's not
linear.</DIV>
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<DIV><BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 8:45 AM, <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A title=mailto:Dectalk@aol.com
href="mailto:Dectalk@aol.com"
target=_blank>Dectalk@aol.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV>Thank you! I knew it was possible but I never totally
knew how. I am trying to jump start my business called "THE
FLAME OF HOPE". As most of you know I have over 1200 songs,
and right now I'm trying to put as many of them as I can to
music. Some I flat out can't because when I first started I
made really bad errors such as not doing the entire song.
Part of it was I started with easy sheet music which often only
has one verse. But I'm doing new songs as well.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The reason is, people now have avatars and easy to use
animation software. So I'm marketing the free 4.40 Speak
Window which is free for the asking, then I'm selling my
instructions on how to create voices and make them sing.
</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I bring this up because I have a question for all of
you. Enable Rehab is getting ready to release "DECTALK
READER 1", and there might be an Earthquake on that day because
Dennis Klatt might roll over in his grave. This thing as far
as I know won't sing. The voices from the latest I have
heard are still bad quality because the voices pop in the MP3
recordings that I have heart. I don't think it will come
with a dictionary so people can edit how words are said. And
in my opinion, this thing is still garbage! I got fired for
saying that but big deal, I'm only saying the truth!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Anyway, Enable Rehab won't take "Dectalk" out of the name
because they feel the name is a marketing tool. I personally
think it's fraud because it will be so different from the Dectalk
that we all know and love that it really isn't Dectalk.
They're calling it "Reader 1" so people will know by the title
that it will only read. (Sick)</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Anyway, I'm upset because thanks to both E voice and now the
internet, I think I'm as associated with Dectalk as much as Dennis
Klatt. This upcoming release is making me sick because I'm
afraid people might buy this Dectalk SAPI garbage and think my
instructions will work with it. So I'm very upset that they
are calling it Dectalk anything. They really need to remove
"Dectalk" from the title because I view it as a deception of the
worse kind!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Here is my question. I think a petition should be
started because this is just wrong! BUT, I don't know if the
petition should be to just drop "Dectalk" from the name, OR, to
just scrap this garbage. And, I don't want to be the one to
start the petition because I don't know how. But if a
petition does get started, it needs to go all over the internet
and get back to Enable Rehab.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I just feel that by marking this garbage under "Dectalk",
they are taking advantage of both the blind and the disabled
communities because they know "Dectalk" will bring in sales just
because of the name. And because my name is known with
Dectalk, I feel this soon to be released garbage will effect my
image and my business.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>SNOOPI BOTTEN </DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>In a message dated 1/28/2012 9:49:19 P.M. Eastern Standard
Time, <A title=mailto:beroberts@hughes.net
href="mailto:beroberts@hughes.net"
target=_blank>beroberts@hughes.net</A> writes:</DIV>
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style="BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><FONT
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" color=#000000 size=2
face=Arial>Thanks Alex. That syntax works in both DT 4.4 and
4.3. I did a quick test<BR>with both versions. Note to
Snoopi: the female versions of Frank and Dennis<BR>sound odd. I
think breathiness will need to be changed with the br
command<BR>for best results.<BR>Blake<BR><BR>-----Original
Message-----<BR>From: <A
title=mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com
href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com"
target=_blank>dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com</A><BR>[mailto:<A
title=mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com
href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com"
target=_blank>dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com</A>] On Behalf
Of Alex H.<BR>Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 9:06 PM<BR>To:
DECtalk Discussions<BR>Subject: Re: [DECtalk] how to do gender
change in Dectalk?<BR><BR>sorry, [:nf][:dv sx 0] should do
it.<BR><BR>On 1/28/12, Alex H. <<A
title=mailto:linuxx64.bashsh@gmail.com
href="mailto:linuxx64.bashsh@gmail.com"
target=_blank>linuxx64.bashsh@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR>>
[:sx 0]<BR>><BR>> On 1/28/12, Blake Roberts <<A
title=mailto:beroberts@hughes.net
href="mailto:beroberts@hughes.net"
target=_blank>beroberts@hughes.net</A>> wrote:<BR>>> Hi
all,<BR>>> Snoopi asked me to pose a question to the
listserv. He knows about <BR>>> the gender change command,
sx. Does it work in DT 4.4? If so, what is <BR>>> the
correct syntax?<BR>>> Snoopi wants to program the song
Emotion by The Bee Gees using a <BR>>> breathy female
Frank or Dennis. I know that may sound funny, but it
<BR>>> is a serious thing. If anyone knows how to change
Frank or Dennis to <BR>>> female, please share. I figure
someone on here probably does. <BR>>> Alternatively, if
anyone else wants to program a female Frank or <BR>>>
Dennis version of the song, Snoopi is willing to do the mixing
with <BR>>> music after fixing any phoneems that may be
incorrect. He is waiting <BR>>> for his communication
device to be repaired, so Snoopi will not be <BR>>> able
to program the song for about a month.<BR>>>
Blake<BR>>>
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