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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Well, there aren't that many issues, so most
of the sapi drivers around are very stable these days. This would include
window-eyes, NVDA, and dolphin's SuperNova. Ditto for the tts to mp3 apps like
text aloud and d-speech. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>In my experience JAWS's sapi driver is very
unstable and crashes for me after ruffly a minute of usage with a lightweight
synth. And it's not even getting as much responsiveness as it could, though
that's something you don't need to be worried about - it's not your problem
Smile.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Also, after you release the windows build, do you
thinkl it would be possible to develop dectalk for mac? Apple, like microsoft
has a sapi equivllent on mac for developping voices, which amung other
things can work with VoiceOver, the screen reader built into
MacOSX.</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=enablerehab@verizon.net href="mailto:enablerehab@verizon.net">FRIDO
ORDEMANN</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=dectalk@bluegrasspals.com
href="mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com">DECtalk Discussions</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 23, 2011 1:55 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [DECtalk] DECtalk Found a
workaround for getting DECTalkAccess32 working w/ JFW</DIV>
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<DIV>One issue I have become concerned about is possible difficulties that
users of DECtalk will encounter when they have certain screen readers
installed. If someone can summarize the group's experience with changing
synthesizers or changing screen readers, I'd appreciate knowing what sorts of
problems we're up against as we test out classic SAPI DECtalk. I don't want to
release something that causes people problems when they try to install DECtalk
but already have some other voices installed.</DIV>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Alex H.
<linuxx64.bashsh@gmail.com><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> DECtalk Discussions
<dectalk@bluegrasspals.com><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Sun, May 22, 2011 12:46:58
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [DECtalk]
DECtalk Found a workaround for getting DECTalk Access32 working w/
JFW<BR></FONT><BR>Hi Michael,<BR><BR>Funny you mention that, because when JAWS
11 came out, people started<BR>complaining to FS and they didn't say anything
about DECTalk being not<BR>supported back then, only that they couldn't
reproduce the problem<BR>(yeah right). Sounds like they're becoming lazy over
there, I mean<BR>it's probably a five line fix in some file or other and they
just<BR>don't care.<BR><BR>The real question is if they'll keep the existing
DT Access32 files<BR>for future versions and just not provide any tech support
for the<BR>synth? That's sort of a band-aid way of doing it, but that's
what<BR>they'll probably do knowing FS.<BR><BR>Fortunately if this doesn't
work, we should have a classic SAPI<BR>version of DECTalk that will be
functional with any screen reader that<BR>can use SAPI synths, so I'm not too
worried.<BR><BR>Alex<BR><BR>On 5/22/11, Michael Hansen <<A
href="mailto:amtk62@gmail.com"
ymailto="mailto:amtk62@gmail.com">amtk62@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR>> I
agree 100%.<BR>><BR>> I talked to FS support last week, and they told me
that Access 32 was<BR>> not supported after JAWS 10. So they know
about the problems and<BR>> apparently do not want to fix them.
Either that or they can't fix<BR>> them.<BR>><BR>> On 5/21/11,
Brandon Misch <<A href="mailto:bmisch2002@gmail.com"
ymailto="mailto:bmisch2002@gmail.com">bmisch2002@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>>> would be better if fs fixed it so you wouldn't have to
change the name of<BR>>> eloquence.<BR>>><BR>>> On May 21,
2011, at 7:36 PM, Michael Hansen wrote:<BR>>><BR>>>> Wow,
Alex! This is awesome! Great find!<BR>>>><BR>>>>
Michael<BR>>>><BR>>>> On 5/20/11, Alex H. <<A
href="mailto:linuxx64.bashsh@gmail.com"
ymailto="mailto:linuxx64.bashsh@gmail.com">linuxx64.bashsh@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>>>>> I've found a workaround to get DECTalk Access32
working with JFW.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> WARNING WARNING
WARNING: This isn't complicated, but it could leave<BR>>>>> you
with no speech if you're not careful and set up another
voice<BR>>>>> profile or don't have NVDA to fall back
on.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> 1. You should really do this with
an older version of JAWS if you have<BR>>>>> any installed, or use
NVDA or System Access, or even narrator to do<BR>>>>> these steps
to avoid conflicts.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> 2. Assuming you've
already tried to have Access32 set up as a voice<BR>>>>> profile,
just select that using insert-ctrl-s, and then the profile<BR>>>>>
name for DECTalk access32.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> 3. Open the
start menu, Programs or All programs, Jaws 10/11/12,<BR>>>>>
Explore Program Files.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> 4. Navigate to
the Drivers\speech\eloq subdirectory.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>
5. Rename eloq.jls to something else like "evil_eloq.jls"<BR>>>>>
Alternatively, you can simply move the file to another
location.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> 6. Reboot JAWS. You should
now have DT access32 speech! Worked for
me.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> Note: I am not responsible for any
outcome of this, use at your own<BR>>>>> risk. However, if
something doesn't work you can always just rename<BR>>>>> the file
back to eloq.jls and things are good
again.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> I haven't tested to see if the
Eloquence voice profile is saved if you<BR>>>>> rename it back,
but I don't use eloquence anyway,
so...<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> Enjoy and good
luck!<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>
Alex<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>
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