<html><head><base href="x-msg://1253/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">besides, not all versions sound the same 4.3 and 4.40 sound close to each other 4.61 sounds different from the versions after it. <div><br><div><div>On May 5, 2011, at 3:01 PM, Raymond Grote wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div id="role_body" bottommargin="7" bgcolor="#ffffff" leftmargin="7" topmargin="7" rightmargin="7" style="font-size: 14pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; "><div><font size="2">Either that, or he doesn't know anything about synthesizers, and more specifically Dectalk. being a longtime Eloquence user, Dectalk and i aren't as close, but that is perhaps a good thing. I get to see it all, without being biased toward a favorite version that I used for a very long time.</font></div><div><font size="2">I'm not trying to say that he is a bad person, or can't do this, but he definitely has some work to do before any average user will like it. Especially those who are used to Dectalk.</font></div><div><font size="2"></font> </div><blockquote style="padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; margin-right: 0px; "><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; ">----- Original Message -----</div><div style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="Dectalk@aol.com" href="mailto:Dectalk@aol.com">Dectalk@aol.com</a></div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="dectalk@bluegrasspals.com" href="mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com">dectalk@bluegrasspals.com</a></div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, May 05, 2011 9:04 AM</div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [DECtalk] Another example</div><div><br></div><font id="role_document" face="Arial" color="#000000" size="4"><div><strong><font size="4">As I said, we sent this person a recording of version 4.40 and got told it sounded corrupted. This person is one of my facebook friends. I'm not saying the name or gender because I don't think I should. I'm just shocked with how little this person seems to know.</font></strong></div><div><strong><font size="4"></font></strong> </div><div><strong><font size="4">This person said all versions were compared and each version sounded the same. I'm in deep shock because 4.40 sounds nothing like 4.67 but yet this person can't even tell those apart. That just totally blows my mind. I swear this person uses tin cans for computer speakers.</font></strong></div><div><strong><font size="4"></font></strong> </div><div><strong><font size="4"></font></strong> </div><div><strong><font size="4">SNOOPI BOTTEN</font></strong></div><div> </div><div><div>In a message dated 5/5/2011 8:30:18 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:bmisch2002@gmail.com">bmisch2002@gmail.com</a>writes:</div><blockquote style="padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left-color: blue; border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; "><font face="Arial" color="#000000" size="2" style="background-color: transparent; ">have you shown them samples of your work that you have on facebook and your site? if yes then they should know that you do know what you are doing in that regard. <div><br><div><div>On May 5, 2011, at 6:16 AM,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="mailto:Dectalk@aol.com" href="mailto:Dectalk@aol.com">Dectalk@aol.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div topmargin="7" rightmargin="7" leftmargin="7" bottommargin="7" style="font-size: 14pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; "><font face="Arial" color="#000000" size="4"><div><strong><font size="4">Oh God, singing. Get this guys. The all knowing programmer asked Blake and I how you get Dectalk to sing. So we sent a file to this person. That was when we got told that we didn't know what we were doing. We're being told that [_<500>] is not how you do a rest. Uh, what manual is this person reading?</font></strong></div><div><strong><font size="4"></font></strong> </div><div><strong><font size="4">Anyway, the SAPI won't sing past the first line of a song. There is no error message, nothing, it just stops after like the fifth word. We are told it's us, we are doing things wrong. Uh, no we're not!</font></strong></div><div><strong><font size="4"></font></strong> </div><div><strong><font size="4">I'm tired of being told we don't know what we are talking about.</font></strong></div><div><strong><font size="4"></font></strong> </div><div><strong><font size="4"></font></strong> </div><div><strong><font size="4">SNOOPI BOTTEN</font></strong></div><div> </div><div><div>In a message dated 5/5/2011 12:49:17 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,<a title="mailto:johnnybrl@gmail.com" href="mailto:johnnybrl@gmail.com">johnnybrl@gmail.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>writes:</div><blockquote style="padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left-color: blue; border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; "><font face="Arial" color="#000000" size="2" style="background-color: transparent; ">hi Alex, I don't mind the Paul voice either. Even Frank sounds pretty nice.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>but the other voices like the females need a bit more work I think.<br><br>Is it possible to make a recording of it singing so we can here what it<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>sounds like when it sings?<br>----- Original Message -----<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>From: "Alex H." <<a title="mailto:linuxx64.bashsh@gmail.com" href="mailto:linuxx64.bashsh@gmail.com">linuxx64.bashsh@gmail.com</a>><br>To: "DECtalk Discussions" <<a title="mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com" href="mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com">dectalk@bluegrasspals.com</a>><br>Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 7:59 PM<br>Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Another example<br><br><br>>I guess I don't mind the new Paul voice of this supposed 4.3 version,<br>> but it's just not 4.3, at all. That said, maybe the programmer got<br>> confused and put 4.67 in there instead, that would make more sense as<br>> this started getting into the FonixTalk era that would follow. I don't<br>> know. Something just sounds broken/not compatible with it.<br>><br>> On 5/4/11, Brandon Misch <<a title="mailto:bmisch2002@gmail.com" href="mailto:bmisch2002@gmail.com">bmisch2002@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>> hey this wasn't that bad. kind of fading in and out but could still hear<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>>> the<br>>> whole thing. Happened mostly with betty but it still sounded great.<br>>><br>>> On May 4, 2011, at 8:47 PM, Jayson Smith wrote:<br>>><br>>>> Hi,<br>>>><br>>>> Blake sent me the Speak window. I used it, as well as the beloved<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>>>> speak43<br>>>> application, to synthesize the exact same text. This is a conversation<br>>>> which<br>>>> came from a website called "Computer Stupidities" which I have turned<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>>>> into<br>>>> a<br>>>> DECtalk skit. Here, Paul is the store salesperson, and Betty is the<br>>>> customer. Certain words have been intentionally misspelled so as to be<br>>>> pronounced correctly. I have created a zip file of the two wavs which<br>>>> resulted from the synthesis. This zip is at<br>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="http://www.bluegrasspals.com/jazz.zip" href="http://www.bluegrasspals.com/jazz.zip">http://www.bluegrasspals.com/jazz.zip</a><br>>>> I'm sure you'll be able to tell the difference. Here is the exact text<br>>>> synthesized by both versions.<br>>>> Jayson<br>>>><br>>>> [:np] [:ra 240]<br>>>> I work in the entertainment department of a huge store. I was restocking<br>>>> CD<br>>>> Ars when a middle-aged woman came up to me.<br>>>><br>>>> [:nb]<br>>>> "Excuse me, but what is in those colorful boxes? I'm looking for toys as<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>>>> a<br>>>><br>>>> present for my nephew, and I just know he'd like a colorful box like<br>>>> that."<br>>>> [:np]<br>>>> "Well, the toy department is upstairs, but"<br>>>> [:nb]<br>>>> "...and in case they're jack-in-the-boxes, could I get one custom made,<br>>>> because I bet you don't have the color combination I'd like anyway."<br>>>> [:np]<br>>>> "They're...not jack-in-the-boxes, ma'am. They are c deaz."<br>>>> [:nb]<br>>>> "Oh! Kind of a big box for a CD. Does it come with lots of leaflets, or<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>>>> is<br>>>><br>>>> it just air? I hate that way of--"<br>>>> [:np]<br>>>> "No, no, no, you see, there's ten c deaz in one box."<br>>>> [:nb]<br>>>> "Ten! Oh my goodness, that's a lot of c deaz. What kind c deaz are<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>>>> they?"<br>>>> [:np]<br>>>> "Well, we have CD ars in these, and CD ar double yous over here. These<br>>>> ones<br>>>> are scratchproof, so they cost a little more--"<br>>>> [:nb]<br>>>> "Oh, I don't know about these modern things so much. Have you got any<br>>>> jazz?"<br>>>> [:np]<br>>>> "Excuse me?"<br>>>> [:nb]<br>>>> "See, an old person like myself, I haven't even heard of scratchproof<br>>>> music<br>>>> before. I like jazz."<br>>>><br>>>> [:np]<br>>>> I tried to hold my poker face for every cent of my hourly wage.<br>>>><br>>>> "No, these c deaz are empty. We have jazz over there"<br>>>> [:nb]<br>>>> "Yes, I was over there, and there was nothing new. I already have them<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>>>> all<br>>>><br>>>> at home. But do you have any jazz in these bulk boxes?"<br>>>> [:np]<br>>>> "No, ma'am, I'm afraid we're all sold out of the jazz ones."<br>>>> [:nb]<br>>>> "Well. this box is $8.99, and at the jazz section I'd pay more for only<br>>>> one<br>>>> CD!"<br>>>> [:np]<br>>>> "That's true, but these are empty, as I--"<br>>>> [:nb]<br>>>> "This is a pretty good deal, ten c deaz for less than a tenner!"<br>>>> [:np]<br>>>> "Undoubtedly, but--"<br>>>> [:nb]<br>>>> "I'll take this!"<br>>>> [:np]<br>>>> "Ma'am, the c deaz are empty. You won't hear anything."<br>>>> [:nb]<br>>>> "Oh?"<br>>>> [:np]<br>>>> "I buy these myself all the time, and there's nothing on them."<br>>>> [:nb]<br>>>> "Maybe your volume wasn't loud enough. Or you had unplugged your<br>>>> speakers?"<br>>>><br>>>> [:np]<br>>>> When had she become tech support to me?<br>>>><br>>>> [:nb]<br>>>> "I'll buy these. This is very cheap. You are a good salesperson!"<br>>>> [:np]<br>>>> "Thank you, ma'am, but--"<br>>>> [:nb]<br>>>> "I'll just have to see if my nephew listens to scratchproof."<br>>>><br>>>> [:np]<br>>>> I took a long, long break after that one.<br>>>><br>>>> _______________________________________________<br>>>> DECtalk mailing list<br>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="mailto:DECtalk@bluegrasspals.com" href="mailto:DECtalk@bluegrasspals.com">DECtalk@bluegrasspals.com</a><br>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk" href="http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk">http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk</a><br>>><br>>><br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> DECtalk mailing list<br>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="mailto:DECtalk@bluegrasspals.com" href="mailto:DECtalk@bluegrasspals.com">DECtalk@bluegrasspals.com</a><br>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk" href="http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk">http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk</a><br>>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> DECtalk mailing list<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="mailto:DECtalk@bluegrasspals.com" href="mailto:DECtalk@bluegrasspals.com">DECtalk@bluegrasspals.com</a><br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk" href="http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk">http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>DECtalk mailing list<br><a title="mailto:DECtalk@bluegrasspals.com" href="mailto:DECtalk@bluegrasspals.com">DECtalk@bluegrasspals.com</a><br><a href="http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk">http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk</a><br></font></blockquote></div></font></div>_______________________________________________<br>DECtalk mailing list<br><a title="mailto:DECtalk@bluegrasspals.com" href="mailto:DECtalk@bluegrasspals.com">DECtalk@bluegrasspals.com</a><br><a href="http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk">http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk</a><br></blockquote></div><br></div><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>DECtalk mailing list<br><a href="mailto:DECtalk@bluegrasspals.com">DECtalk@bluegrasspals.com</a><br><a href="http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk">http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk</a><br></font></blockquote></div></font><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><hr><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>_______________________________________________<br>DECtalk mailing list<br><a href="mailto:DECtalk@bluegrasspals.com">DECtalk@bluegrasspals.com</a><br><a href="http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk">http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk</a><br></blockquote>_______________________________________________<br>DECtalk mailing list<br><a href="mailto:DECtalk@bluegrasspals.com">DECtalk@bluegrasspals.com</a><br><a href="http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk">http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk</a><br></div></span></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>