<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">i see where you're coming from. have you shown the programmers other samples like 4.61 etc? maybe you can show them voices like betty so they can see where the loud pops are coming from. <div><br><div><div>On May 5, 2011, at 5:59 AM, <a href="mailto:Dectalk@aol.com">Dectalk@aol.com</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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<div><strong><font size="4">The problem is, Blake and I have done that. We
sent a sample of version 4.40 to the head programmer to show how things should
sound. We got an e-mail back saying our version sounded corrupted.
This person actually said that Whispering Wendy shouldn't be whispering.
Hello, why does this person think the name is "Whispering
Wendy"?</font></strong></div>
<div><strong><font size="4"></font></strong> </div>
<div><strong><font size="4">It is totally clear to Blake and I that this person
doesn't know Dectalk. And if version 4.40 is viewed as corrupted, there is
no hope if getting anything right.</font></strong></div>
<div><strong><font size="4"></font></strong> </div>
<div><strong><font size="4">So because of this, I'm hoping the project gets
scrapped because this is becoming in insult to Dennis Klatt.
</font></strong></div>
<div><strong><font size="4"></font></strong> </div>
<div><strong><font size="4"></font></strong> </div>
<div><strong><font size="4">SNOOPI BOTTEN </font></strong></div>
<div> </div>
<div>
<div>In a message dated 5/5/2011 12:31:35 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
<a href="mailto:bmisch2002@gmail.com">bmisch2002@gmail.com</a> writes:</div>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" color="#000000" size="2" face="Arial">maybe
you should send the demo file over to the guys so they could hear that and how
the other voices sound. <br><br>On May 4, 2011, at 10:10 PM, Alex H.
wrote:<br><br>> I wouldn't give up just yet. All they need to do is
convince this guy<br>> that he's wrong and there is a huge, huge difference
in this version<br>> and the real 4.3 version. This new stuff reminds me of
a early age<br>> FonixTalk or something with a lot of excess nasal
tones.<br>> <br>> Alex<br>> <br>> On 5/4/11, <a href="mailto:johnnybrl@gmail.com">johnnybrl@gmail.com</a>
<<a href="mailto:johnnybrl@gmail.com">johnnybrl@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>> Well, since it looks like there
won't be a Sapi Dectalk, guess it's time to<br>>> look at Neospeech
voices or ivona voices. It's too bad the head programer<br>>>
can't tell the difference between the Dectalk 4.6 and Dectalk 4.3
versions.<br>>> <br>>> O well, was really looking forward to a
Sapi version of Dectalk.<br>>> ----- Original Message -----<br>>>
From: "Blake Roberts" <<a href="mailto:beroberts@hughes.net">beroberts@hughes.net</a>><br>>> To: "'DECtalk
Discussions'" <<a href="mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com">dectalk@bluegrasspals.com</a>><br>>> Sent: Wednesday,
May 04, 2011 2:06 PM<br>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?<br>>>
<br>>> <br>>>> Thanks Alex for being the latest list member to
point out need for<br>>>> improvement. I agree with you that
there are clipping/ drop-out issues.<br>>>> Additionally, I agree the
SAPI Dectalk referred to as 4.3 is unlike any<br>>>> version of
Dectalk I have ever heard. I, too, am unwilling to give up on<br>>>>
SAPI Dectalk.<br>>>> Blake<br>>>> -----Original
Message-----<br>>>> From:
<a href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com">dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com</a><br>>>>
[mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Alex
H.<br>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:59 PM<br>>>> To:
DECtalk Discussions<br>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any
news?<br>>>> <br>>>> Just heard the demo, and.... Well, I
agree with Snoopi, it's terrible.<br>>>> I don't know who was telling
you that nothing's wrong, but this doesn't<br>>>> sound even remotely
like any DECTalk version I've heard.<br>>>> <br>>>> That
being said, the Huge Harry voice is kinda cool, but yeah there's
some<br>>>> issues with clipping and dropouts in the voices,
especially with Ursula<br>>>> and<br>>>>
Rita.<br>>>> <br>>>> I don't think we should give up quite
yet though, good things come to<br>>>> those<br>>>> who
wait. Giving up on this would mean that I and other users of
NVDA<br>>>> wouldn't be able to enjoy DECTalk's great
speech.<br>>>> <br>>>> <br>>>> Alex<br>>>>
<br>>>> On 5/4/11, Jayson Smith <<a href="mailto:ratguy@insightbb.com">ratguy@insightbb.com</a>>
wrote:<br>>>>> Hi,<br>>>>> <br>>>>> One
clarification. From what I understand, Enable didn't purchase
the<br>>>>> rights to any DECtalk version. They only have the
right to sell, not<br>>>>> full copyright. As I understand it, the
copyright of DECtalk is still<br>>>>> held by Fonix. I could be
wrong though, I'm no lawyer.<br>>>>> Jayson<br>>>>>
<br>>>>> ----- Original Message -----<br>>>>> From:
"Brandon Misch" <<a href="mailto:bmisch2002@gmail.com">bmisch2002@gmail.com</a>><br>>>>> To: "DECtalk
Discussions" <<a href="mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com">dectalk@bluegrasspals.com</a>><br>>>>> Sent:
Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:28 PM<br>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any
news?<br>>>>> <br>>>>> <br>>>>> it also
was 4.6.7 at one time. i doubt this project will please
everyone.<br>>>>> all we know is enable rehab purchased the
wrights to 4.6.7 from fonix<br>>>>> and trying to use that with
the 4.3 data files wasn't a good idea.<br>>>>> question is did
this happen with other versions of dectalk? or just with<br>>>> this
version?<br>>>>> <br>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 4:13 PM,
Raymond Grote wrote:<br>>>>> <br>>>>>> Yes, but
many people miss the old dectalk 4.3 days. I really
never<br>>>>>> got into dectalk, but I can see why. That
version of the synth and I<br>>>>>> stilll
do<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> have a special place
together even though I was never a regular<br>>>>>> dectalk
user. The major disappointment for many of us is it
doesn't<br>>>>>> sound like that, it's worse, and to some of us
it is unusable. From<br>>>>>> my
understanding,<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> someone had
posted that the synth was supposed to sound like
4.6.4,<br>>>>>> then somewhere along the line it was changed to
4.3?<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> ----- Original Message
-----<br>>>>>> From: Brandon Misch<br>>>>>> To:
DECtalk Discussions<br>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 1:21
PM<br>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any
news?<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> if this was fixed up,
it could still be used as a sapi 5 synth.<br>>>>>> that's
all<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> it needs for it to be a
screen reader voice.<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> On May
4, 2011, at 1:13 PM, <<a href="mailto:johnnybrl@gmail.com">johnnybrl@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>> ----- Original Message
-----<br>>>>>>> cool just heard the demo. And yes it doesn't
sound like 4.3 but the<br>>>>>>> Paul voice sounds pretty
cool.<br>>>>>>> And Frank doesn't sound too bad
either. It kind of reminds me of<br>>>>>>> the fonix
talk demo. sounds almost like that.<br>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>> And it sounds like this version of dectalk has
more inflection than<br>>>>>>> 4.3 did, which I like. I like
lots of inflection in synthes, makes<br>>>>>>> them
sound<br>>>>>>> <br>>>>>>> cool
lol.<br>>>>>>> <br>>>>>>> Back in high
school, we had a computer with Jaws with a Dectalk<br>>>>>>>
express hooked up to it, and I used to go in there and make
Dectalk<br>>>>>>> say things
lol.<br>>>>>>> From: Brandon
Misch<br>>>>>>> To: DECtalk
Discussions<br>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 9:52
AM<br>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any
news?<br>>>>>>> <br>>>>>>> if you read
below our messages, you'll see a link to a file with
the<br>>>>>>> demo<br>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>> inside. if you just want to use paul and a few
others, it works but<br>>>>>>> not for all
voices.<br>>>>>>> <br>>>>>>> On May 4,
2011, at 12:45 PM, <<a href="mailto:johnnybrl@gmail.com">johnnybrl@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>>>>>>> <br>>>>>>>> hi, where
did you guys get the audio samples of the sapi dectalk
from?<br>>>>>>>> sounds like you guys have already heard
it.<br>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message
-----<br>>>>>>>> From: Brandon
Misch<br>>>>>>>> To: DECtalk
Discussions<br>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 9:37
AM<br>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any
news?<br>>>>>>>> <br>>>>>>>> ok some
of the voices work while others don't. i can see what
you<br>>>>>>>> meant by bad
quality.<br>>>>>>>> <br>>>>>>>> On
May 4, 2011, at 12:17 PM, <a href="mailto:Dectalk@aol.com">Dectalk@aol.com</a>
wrote:<br>>>>>>>> <br>>>>>>>>>
<a href="http://pastorsnoopi.twigs76.com/music/SAPI%20DEMO.mp3">http://pastorsnoopi.twigs76.com/music/SAPI%20DEMO.mp3</a><br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>> The above link is the sample that people
wanted. Blake and I are<br>>>>>>>>> both told
that there is no problem. Tell that to our
ears.<br>>>>>>>>>
(YUCK)<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>> <br>>>>>>>>>
SNOOPI BOTTEN<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>> In a message dated 5/4/2011 11:16:00 A.M.
Eastern Daylight Time,<br>>>>>>>>>
<a href="mailto:edbruckert@gmail.com">edbruckert@gmail.com</a> writes:<br>>>>>>>>> All that
means is what you are sent is not acceptable don't
worry<br>>>>>>>>>
it'll<br>>>>>>>>> <br>>>>>>>>>
be solved I promise at this point in my life I need it as much
as<br>>>>>>>>> anybody
else<br>>>>>>>>> <br>>>>>>>>>
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 10:48 AM, <<a href="mailto:Dectalk@aol.com">Dectalk@aol.com</a>>
wrote:<br>>>>>>>>> Brace yourselves because I don't
think you guys will like it. The<br>>>>>>>>>
very<br>>>>>>>>> <br>>>>>>>>>
worst voice is Kit. I'd do the recording for you guys but
I<br>>>>>>>>> really don't want to be linked with this
pour Dectalk quality. Have<br>>>> fun
guys.<br>>>>>>>>> <br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>> SNOOPI
BOTTEN<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>> In a message dated 5/4/2011 9:10:14 A.M.
Eastern Daylight Time,<br>>>>>>>>>
<a href="mailto:ratguy@insightbb.com">ratguy@insightbb.com</a> writes:<br>>>>>>>>>
Hi,<br>>>>>>>>> <br>>>>>>>>>
Here's a sample text. I assume you can use DECtalk commands in
the<br>>>>>>>>> text?
An<br>>>>>>>>> MP3 of the 4.3 speak application
performing this exact text can be<br>>>>>>>>> found
at<br>>>>>>>>>
<a href="http://www.bluegrasspals.com/dt43sample.mp3">http://www.bluegrasspals.com/dt43sample.mp3</a><br>>>>>>>>>
Now here's the text.<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>> [:phoneme
on]<br>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:ra
250]<br>>>>>>>>> Hello. This is the factory default
Paul voice.<br>>>>>>>>> I'm talking now with this
voice since this is what most people are<br>>>>>>>>>
probably going to be using. Let's speed it up a
bit.<br>>>>>>>>> [:ra
300]<br>>>>>>>>> This is probably how Jayson's JFW
would talk normally. Now let's<br>>>>>>>>> put some
intonation in there.<br>>>>>>>>> [:dv pr 250] [:dv sr
50]<br>>>>>>>>> Okay, this is how Jayson used to
listen to DECtalk back in the<br>>>>>>>>> good
old<br>>>>>>>>> <br>>>>>>>>>
DOS<br>>>>>>>>> days. With 4.3 and earlier, if you
could get used to this which<br>>>>>>>>> you would
over time, this sounds pretty good! It'd take
some<br>>>>>>>>> getting used to again, not having had
it for so long.<br>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:ra
250]<br>>>>>>>>> The rest of this demo was created a
few months ago to compair and<br>>>>>>>>> test the
various other factory voices and several custom voices
in<br>>>>>>>>> different DECtalk
versions.<br>>>>>>>>> I will now test the other
voices.<br>>>>>>>>> [:nb] I'm Beautiful Betty, the
default female voice.<br>>>>>>>>> [:nh] I'm Huge
Harry.<br>>>>>>>>> [:nd] I'm Doctor
Dennis.<br>>>>>>>>> [:nf] I'm Frail
Frank.<br>>>>>>>>> [:nu] I'm Uppity
Ursula.<br>>>>>>>>> [:nr] I'm Rough
Rita.<br>>>>>>>>> [:nw] I'm Whispering
Wendy.<br>>>>>>>>> [:nk] and I'm Kit the
Kid.<br>>>>>>>>>
[:np]<br>>>>>>>>> Now I'll let the DECtalk manual
describe us.<br>>>>>>>>> [:np]
Perfect Paul Standard
male voice.<br>>>>>>>>> [:nb]
Beautiful Betty Standard female
voice.<br>>>>>>>>> [:nh]
Huge Harry Deep male
voice.<br>>>>>>>>> [:nf]
Frail Frank Older male
voice.<br>>>>>>>>> [:nk] Kit
the Kid Child's voice (about 10
years<br>>>>>>>>>
old).<br>>>>>>>>> [:nr]
Rough Rita Deep female
voice.<br>>>>>>>>> [:nu]
Uppity Ursula Light female
voice.<br>>>>>>>>> [:nd]
Doctor Dennis Breathy male
voice.<br>>>>>>>>> [:nw]
Whispering Wendy Whispery female voice.<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>> [:np]<br>>>>>>>>>
Okay, let's test a few custom voices.<br>>>>>>>>>
[:nf] [:dv br 0 la 0 sr 100 hr 100 ap 150 pr 95] [:ra 220] This
is<br>>>>>>>>> the voice of Rimmer from Red
Dwarf.<br>>>>>>>>> Lister, we are being tested! I
don't know what to do!<br>>>>>>>>> [:nf] [:ra 240]
[:dv br 0 hs 95 ap 100 as 100 pr 220 hr 30 sr
30]<br>>>>>>>>> This is
Lister.<br>>>>>>>>> Rimmer! Come over here and help me
with this new speech synthesizer!<br>>>>>>>>> [:np]
[:dv as 0 bf 0 la 20 nf 00 ri 100 sm 0 hr 0 sr 0] [:ra
220]<br>>>>>>>>> This is
Holly.<br>>>>>>>>> This is an important announcement.
All persons aboard this ship<br>>>>>>>>> are to report
to the voice calibration office at once. That is
all.<br>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv br 100 lx 100 bf 100 hr
100 sr 100 as 100 qu 100 ap 110<br>>>>>>>>> pr 150
sx<br>>>>>>>>> 1 la 0] [:ra 210] This is the
voice of the toaster.<br>>>>>>>>> I don't know where
this voice calibration office is. Does
anyone<br>>>>>>>>> want some
toast?<br>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv sm 1 hs 90 br 0 ri
0 la 0] [:ra 250] I'm the cat.<br>>>>>>>>> Who says my
voice needs to be calibrated? I want
fishies!<br>>>>>>>>> [:nd] [:dv as 0 bf 0 la 20 nf 00
ri 100 hr 0 sr 0] [:ra 220] I'm<br>>>>>>>>> Queeg
500.<br>>>>>>>>> None of you have any credit, so you
may not use the voice calibrator.<br>>>>>>>>> [:nu]
[:dv as 1 bf 10 la 30 nf 10 ri 100 sm 50 hr 100 sr 20
ap<br>>>>>>>>> 130] [:ra 240] I'm the newer voice of
Holly.<br>>>>>>>>> I'm picking something up. It's
another ship. Its name is Deck Talk<br>>>>>>>>> or
something very close. They have been conducting an
experiment<br>>>>>>>>> on us
all<br>>>>>>>>> <br>>>>>>>>>
this<br>>>>>>>>> time. That would explain why we've
been saying all these silly<br>>>>>>>>>
things.<br>>>>>>>>>
I<br>>>>>>>>> knew I was having trouble finding a
record of any voice<br>>>>>>>>> calibration office on
Red Dwarf.<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message
-----<br>>>>>>>>> From: "Corine Bickley"
<<a href="mailto:corine.bickley@gallaudet.edu">corine.bickley@gallaudet.edu</a>><br>>>>>>>>> To:
"DECtalk Discussions"
<<a href="mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com">dectalk@bluegrasspals.com</a>><br>>>>>>>>> Sent:
Wednesday, May 04, 2011 7:02 AM<br>>>>>>>>> Subject:
Re: [DECtalk] Any news?<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>> <br>>>>>>>>>>
HI Jayson,<br>>>>>>>>>> I will do that. Could you
suggest some sample sentences to<br>>>>>>>>>>
synthesize?<br>>>>>>>>>> We're trying to find a way
to put a "demo play" button on the<br>>>>>>>>>>
Enable website so people can type in any text they'd like
to<br>>>>>>>>>> hear, but our programmer hasn't
been able to spend time on that<br>>>> project right
now.<br>>>>>>>>>>
corine<br>>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:12 PM,
Jayson Smith<br>>>>>>>>>>
<<a href="mailto:ratguy@insightbb.com">ratguy@insightbb.com</a>><br>>>>>>>>>>
wrote:<br>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have any audio
samples you could share? Maybe I
could<br>>>>>>>>>>> elaborate on what people
don't like. I pretty much know what
DT<br>>>>>>>>>>> 4.3 sounds
like.<br>>>>>>>>>>>
Jayson<br>>>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message
-----<br>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Corine Bickley"
<<a href="mailto:corine.bickley@gallaudet.edu">corine.bickley@gallaudet.edu</a>><br>>>>>>>>>>>
To: "DECtalk Discussions"
<<a href="mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com">dectalk@bluegrasspals.com</a>><br>>>>>>>>>>>
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 7:53
PM<br>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any
news?<br>>>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>>>> i meant - i can't hear the
differences, not being so attuned
to<br>>>>>>>>>>>> the various DT
versions. i can hear ok, but i'm not clear
on<br>>>>>>>>>>>> the differences in
quality.<br>>>>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 7:24
PM, Jayson Smith<br>>>>>>>>>>>>
<<a href="mailto:ratguy@insightbb.com">ratguy@insightbb.com</a>><br>>>>>>>>>>>>
wrote:<br>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Hi,<br>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wo, you actually got 4.3
working with SAPI? What kind
of<br>>>>>>>>>>>>> quality problems are
there?<br>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Thanks.<br>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message
-----<br>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Corine
Bickley"
<<a href="mailto:corine.bickley@gallaudet.edu">corine.bickley@gallaudet.edu</a>><br>>>>>>>>>>>>>
To: "DECtalk Discussions"
<<a href="mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com">dectalk@bluegrasspals.com</a>><br>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:14
PM<br>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk]
Any news?<br>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still waiting for one
of the "old" (not
chronologically,<br>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
in terms of contact with DT) to send some more
versions<br>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
testing.<br>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.3 and 4.67
work in SAPI fine but preliminary
listening<br>>>>>>>>>>>>>> results
indicate
dissatisfaction.<br>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
corine<br>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011
at 2:29 PM, Jayson
Smith<br>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<<a href="mailto:ratguy@insightbb.com">ratguy@insightbb.com</a>><br>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
wrote:<br>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, it's
broken record time. Anything new going on
with<br>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the SAPI
DECtalk?<br>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Haven't
heard anything in a
while.<br>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Jayson<br>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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