<font size="6">possibility, but there are issues about gain issus int he vocal tract. I will write it up later so you can decide.</font><br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Jayson Smith <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ratguy@insightbb.com">ratguy@insightbb.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">One other request I think others would agree with. I think the end user<br>should be able to specify a set of speech parameters the SAPI voice should<br>
use, no matter what the speaking application says. JFW, for instance,<br>doesn't allow you to set probably even half the parameters DECtalk has<br>available. It'd be nice to be able to set things like [:dv pr 250] [:dv sr<br>
50]<br><font color="#888888">Jayson<br></font>
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<div class="h5">Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 10:01 AM<br>Subject: Re: [DECtalk] speaking of dectalk<br><br><br>> Too old, the other languages were not good.<br>><br>> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Brandon Misch <<a href="mailto:bmisch2002@gmail.com">bmisch2002@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>><br>>> will this have more than one language speaking of languages.<br>>><br>>> On Jan 3, 2011, at 8:46 AM, ebruckert Bruckert wrote:<br>>><br>>> First, why not both wave and MP3 no big deal.<br>
>> The version I ent is an olf one but I can't remeber the date. But I'm<br>>> sure<br>>> you'll all have a chnace to critic it. What I find interesting is that<br>>> except for the implementatopn OF Ken Syevens HLSYN model the changes in<br>
>> the<br>>> English were relatively minor, but which people are very sensitive to.<br>>> Even<br>>> when I had both source codes togather abd could compare them we couldn't<br>>> make them sound the same to long time listeners. We couldn't usee the old<br>
>> code as mosy of the changes were structural to suport multipple languages<br>>> more practically.<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Jayson Smith<br>>> <<a href="mailto:ratguy@insightbb.com">ratguy@insightbb.com</a>>wrote:<br>
>><br>>>> Hi,<br>>>><br>>>> I have to disagree here. MP3 compression is lossy. While it might be<br>>>> argued<br>>>> that not much might get lost where DECtalk is concerned, I feel it<br>
>>> should<br>>>> be<br>>>> left up to the user in question whether to convert to MP3. Remember,<br>>>> since<br>>>> MP3 is a lossy format, what is lost in the conversion to MP3 is lost<br>
>>> forever<br>>>> and can never be recovered, not even by converting back to wav.<br>>>> Not only that, but the MP3 technology is covered by various patents, so<br>>>> allowing it to be used would no doubt cost the developers money for each<br>
>>> copy they sold.<br>>>> Jayson<br>>>><br>>>> ----- Original Message -----<br>>>> From: "Johnny Lam" <<a href="mailto:johnnybrl@gmail.com">johnnybrl@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <<a href="mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com">dectalk@bluegrasspals.com</a>><br>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 10:38 PM<br>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] speaking of dectalk<br>
>>><br>>>><br>>>> > hi, I think they should replace the convert to wav to mp3 instead.<br>>>> > Since<br>>>> > Wav<br>>>> > files take up more room than mp3 does.<br>
>>> > ----- Original Message -----<br>>>> > From: "Jayson Smith" <<a href="mailto:ratguy@insightbb.com">ratguy@insightbb.com</a>><br>>>> > To: "DECtalk Discussions" <<a href="mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com">dectalk@bluegrasspals.com</a>><br>
>>> > Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 4:53 PM<br>>>> > Subject: Re: [DECtalk] speaking of dectalk<br>>>> ><br>>>> ><br>>>> >> Hi,<br>>>> >><br>>>> >> I'd like to point out something here. As far as I know, the SAPI<br>
>>> version<br>>>> >> of<br>>>> >> DECtalk hasn't been developed yet. The design for the thing may not<br>>>> even<br>>>> >> be<br>>>> >> finalized yet. So there are going to be lots of questions for which<br>
>>> >> nobody,<br>>>> >> and I mean absolutely nobody, knows the answer. When will it be out?<br>>>> How<br>>>> >> much will it cost? How big will it be? Will there be any new DECtalk<br>
>>> >> functionality?<br>>>> >><br>>>> >> One thing I'd love to see is an updated speak program like speak43,<br>>>> which<br>>>> >> doesn't have a size limit on the file you can load into it as Speak43<br>
>>> >> does.<br>>>> >> Also, I'd love to see the "Convert to wav" option reenabled.<br>>>> >><br>>>> >> Jayson<br>>>> >><br>>>> >> ----- Original Message -----<br>
>>> >> From: "Brandon Misch" <<a href="mailto:bmisch2002@gmail.com">bmisch2002@gmail.com</a>><br>>>> >> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <<a href="mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com">dectalk@bluegrasspals.com</a>><br>
>>> >> Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 7:39 PM<br>>>> >> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] speaking of dectalk<br>>>> >><br>>>> >><br>>>> >>> thanks for the comments. i see what you mean. when this gets<br>
>>> >>> through,<br>>>> >>> all<br>>>> >>> my screen readers will finaly have a voice for dectalk and even nvda<br>>>> >>> users<br>>>> >>> will be able to take advantage of this. can't wait. wonder how big<br>
>>> >>> the<br>>>> >>> download would be.<br>>>> >>><br>>>> >>> On Jan 2, 2011, at 6:46 PM, Blake Roberts wrote:<br>>>> >>><br>>>> >>>> Brandon, I myself see no need for a Jaws Dectalk driver, being that<br>
>>> >>>> a<br>>>> >>>> SAPI5<br>>>> >>>> version of Dectalk will be created. Dectalk can then be accessed by<br>>>> >>>> switching Jaws synth from Eloquence to SAPI5. That's a very<br>
>>> interesting<br>>>> >>>> point you make about whether or not the SAPI5 Dectalk will also be<br>>>> >>>> SAPI4-compatible. I have noticed that some SAPI5 synthesizers also<br>
>>> work<br>>>> >>>> as<br>>>> >>>> SAPI4 voices. I've never understood how a voice can be SAPI5 and<br>>>> SAPI4<br>>>> >>>> at<br>>>> >>>> the same time.<br>
>>> >>>> These are just my thoughts. I know my comments do not adequately<br>>>> answer<br>>>> >>>> your<br>>>> >>>> questions.<br>>>> >>>> Blake<br>
>>> >>>><br>>>> >>>> -----Original Message-----<br>>>> >>>> From: <a href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com">dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com</a><br>
>>> >>>> [mailto:<a href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com">dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com</a>] On Behalf Of Brandon<br>>>> Misch<br>>>> >>>> Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 5:58 PM<br>
>>> >>>> To: DECtalk Discussions<br>>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] speaking of dectalk<br>>>> >>>><br>>>> >>>> will this be backwards compatible to sapi 4 or a new version of<br>
>>> >>>> dectalk?<br>>>> >>>> maybe there should be a jaws driver that works with this directly<br>>>> since<br>>>> >>>> access 32 is broken.<br>>>> >>>><br>
>>> >>>> On Jan 2, 2011, at 5:05 PM, Corine Bickley wrote:<br>>>> >>>><br>>>> >>>><br>>>> >>>> Ed has kindly sent the CD we need to start to Enable Rehab. Now we<br>
>>> >>>> need to finalize some paperwork and then we can get started. MANY<br>>>> >>>> THANKS<br>>>> >>>> ED!!!<br>>>> >>>><br>>>> >>>><br>
>>> >>>> On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Brandon Misch<br>>>> >>>> <<a href="mailto:bmisch2002@gmail.com">bmisch2002@gmail.com</a>><br>>>> >>>> wrote:<br>
>>> >>>><br>>>> >>>><br>>>> >>>> Hey this is Brandon. whatever happened to someone creating a<br>>>> >>>> sapi 5 version of dectalk? never heard back on this list about it.<br>
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