I will gladly pass along your comments - maybe knowing users' interests will spur some companies along :)<br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Alex Hall <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mehgcap@gwi.net">mehgcap@gwi.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">Personally, I would love to see both Eloquence and DT as sapi voices.<br>It is a true shame that these are not available anywhere as they would<br>
let users of any screen reader or self-voicing app use their favorite<br>voice.<br>
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<div class="h5"><br>On 8/25/10, Raymond Grote <<a href="mailto:musicalman1@comcast.net">musicalman1@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br>> Sure, use it as you wish. As I say though, what i say isn't facts, it's<br>
> mostly my opinion, although I try to be accurate.<br>> Microsoft also can speed up pretty well but the quality of the voices just<br>> annoys me to the point of staying away from them. Eloquence is what I used<br>
> back when I was in kindergarten just learning how to use a computer. Back<br>> then I didn't care how it sounded, I could understand it. I got used to it.<br>> I just liked it because it sped up very nicely, had pretty good<br>
> pronunciation, and was nice an clear at least to my ears. The intonation<br>> doesn't bother me now, but I know it bothers many people.<br>> As for Dectalk, I just can't get used to that synth. For some reason, I just<br>
> never really liked it, but many people do. I guess I'm just an opposite type<br>> of guy...<br>><br>> ----- Original Message -----<br>> From: Corine Bickley<br>> To: DECtalk Discussions<br>> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 7:28 AM<br>
> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] DECTalk 5.0?<br>><br>><br>> Thank you, Raymond - very useful feedback! I'm a member of an Acoustical<br>> Society standards committee on intelligibility of text-to-speech systems,<br>
> and we are particularly interested in the opinions of users at high speeds.<br>> Is it ok if I pass along your comments to other members of the committee?<br>> They are all experts in TTS with many years experience (including Sue Hertz<br>
> who developed Eloquence :) - she'd love to read you supportive comments<br>> about her system).<br>> corine<br>><br>><br>> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Raymond Grote <<a href="mailto:musicalman1@comcast.net">musicalman1@comcast.net</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>><br>> Hi,<br>> I'm not sure if I can answer your question, but I personally don't like<br>> Dectalk at high speeds. I use Eloquence most of the time, at speeds of<br>> between 65 and 85 percent, 65 for reading text and 85 for just navigating<br>
> around and listening to short things like short IM messages on skype.<br>> As for how fast this is, I don't really know. But I do know that dectalk<br>> just doesn't sound good at those speeds, it starts to sounds all garbled and<br>
> all the words and syllables start to run together, making it difficult for<br>> me to understand. Eloquence doesn't have this problem.<br>><br>> ----- Original Message -----<br>> From: Corine Bickley<br>
> To: DECtalk Discussions<br>> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 7:18 AM<br>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] DECTalk 5.0?<br>><br>><br>> Hi Alex,<br>> I am particularly interested in knowing who uses DECtalk for screen<br>
> readers because I'm part of an Acoustical Society's standards committee on<br>> intelligibility of text-to-speech systems. We have a particular interest in<br>> knowing what users of high-speed synthesized speech think, and can<br>
> understand, as most of us on the committee only have experience listening to<br>> synthesized speech at conversational speeds. What's your preferred speed?<br>> Might you be willing to advise our committee?<br>
> thanks for considering - corine<br>><br>><br>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Alex H. <<a href="mailto:linuxx64.bashsh@gmail.com">linuxx64.bashsh@gmail.com</a>><br>> wrote:<br>><br>
> Hi Corine,<br>><br>> I use DECTalk mostly on the Windows platform, and when I convert to<br>> Linux I'll probably use it as well. I'm a screen reader user, and<br>> use<br>
> DECTalk Access32 with JAWS and Window-Eyes. For NVDA (my primary<br>> screenreader), there's no supported DECTalk, which is why a SAPI<br>> version would be really great.<br>><br>
> My cell phone is a Windows Mobile phone, and I currently use Mobile<br>> Speak for Windows Mobile and Fonix Dectalk 4.6.3 that's bundled<br>> with<br>> Mobile Speak. So in short, I use DECTalk quite a bit.<br>
><br>> I also use DECTalk demos to write songs and gingles, plays, etc.<br>> It's<br>> really quite amusing having a synthesizer that can do so much.<br>><br>> When I can swing it, I'll look into buying a DECTalk USb and then<br>
> I'll<br>> have my favorite speech in a hardware synthesizer. I know, I'm a<br>> bit<br>> crazy about DECTalk! :)<br>><br>> Alex<br>><br>><br>> On 8/23/10, Corine Bickley <<a href="mailto:corine.bickley@gallaudet.edu">corine.bickley@gallaudet.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
> > Hi Alex -<br>> > I worked with Snoopi at Fonix (and before that at Force), and I'm<br>> interested<br>> > to know how you use DECtalk - for what purposes and on what<br>
> platforms?<br>> > corine bickley<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Alex H.<br>> <<a href="mailto:linuxx64.bashsh@gmail.com">linuxx64.bashsh@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>> >> Hi,<br>> >><br>> >> Best of luck to you with the CD's and DECTalk. I hope DECTalk<br>> doesn't<br>> >> go by the wayside, it's a great synth and I use it almost<br>
> everyday, on<br>> >> my phone and my laptops. I'm planning on getting the DECTalk USB<br>> but<br>> >> have yet to find a used one.<br>> >><br>> >> Alex<br>
> >><br>> >> On 8/23/10, <a href="mailto:Dectalk@aol.com">Dectalk@aol.com</a> <<a href="mailto:Dectalk@aol.com">Dectalk@aol.com</a>> wrote:<br>> >> > I don't work with Fonix any more so I can't really say. My<br>
> personal<br>> >> > opinion is just ask. I know a sapi5 is possible, I just don't<br>> know if<br>> >> they<br>> >> > ever<br>> >> > did one.<br>
> >> ><br>> >> > BUT, let me tell you what my plans are. I'm finally on<br>> facebook where<br>> >> > more people are getting to know me and my music. At the end<br>
> of<br>> >> September<br>> >> > I'm<br>> >> > releasing my very first holiday CD. I'm hoping it does well.<br>> I have 2<br>> >> > Churches that are letting me sell it, a CEO might buy some for<br>
> his<br>> >> company,<br>> >> > and I'm hoping for a big sale. You can't count on anything,<br>> but I'm<br>> >> > hoping.<br>> >> > Blake Roberts and I are giving this our best shot.<br>
> >> ><br>> >> > One of the things I want to get is the Dectalk Kit, and I<br>> believe it<br>> >> sells<br>> >> > for $1000.00. That kit will let me create a Dectalk sapi 5<br>
> version. I<br>> >> > think I can get the 4.0 kit version but I'm not sure. I want<br>> the<br>> >> > oldest<br>> >> > version I can get because the new versions suck!<br>
> >> ><br>> >> > Dectalk is going away because of lake of interest. But<br>> because of my<br>> >> > music, there will always be disabled people who want to get<br>
> into<br>> >> singing.<br>> >> > Plus<br>> >> > if device companies ever want Dectalk, I'll be able to pay<br>> the<br>> >> royalties<br>
> >> > through this Dectalk kit and sell the sapi 5 that I create<br>> with the<br>> >> > kit.<br>> >> ><br>> >> > If my September release doesn't generate enough orders, I'm<br>
> hoping it<br>> >> will<br>> >> > generate a new generation of interest because I'm planning on<br>> another<br>> >> > CD<br>> >> > release next March.<br>
> >> ><br>> >> > My dilemma is, I need a new van because my van is on it's last<br>> legs.<br>> >> > So<br>> >> > sadly the van needs to have priority. But I'm hoping to book<br>
> a<br>> >> > concert,<br>> >> > and<br>> >> > if I can do that, I should be fine. I have 750 friends on<br>> facebook and<br>> >> > growing, so I'm hoping for some interest.<br>
> >> ><br>> >> > So Dectalk is not gone yet.<br>> >> ><br>> >> ><br>> >> > SNOOPI BOTTEN<br>> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>> >> > In a message dated 8/23/2010 1:27:10 A.M. Eastern Daylight<br>> Time,<br>> >> > <a href="mailto:linuxx64.bashsh@gmail.com">linuxx64.bashsh@gmail.com</a> writes:<br>
> >> ><br>> >> > Hi Snoopi,<br>> >> ><br>> >> > Thanks for the info on Dectalk 5.0. I guess I really don't need<br>> it, I<br>> >> > got four other demos plus FonixTalk. Do you think I'd have any<br>
> luck<br>> >> > contacting Fonix and requesting the demos?<br>> >> ><br>> >> > @johnnybrl, I believe that FonixTalk works with the SAPI5<br>> engine but<br>
> >> > it needs to be purchased. It is mentioned in the SDK and<br>> FonixTalk<br>> >> > pages on their site though. I wish DecTalk had a SAPI version,<br>> and<br>> >> > direct access to the speech parameters.<br>
> >> ><br>> >> > Alex<br>> >> ><br>> >> > On 8/20/10, Ryan Chou <<a href="mailto:rc4896153@gmail.com">rc4896153@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> >> >> wait what is phonix talk and could someone please send me a<br>> demo?<br>> >> >><br>> >> >> On 8/20/10, <a href="mailto:Dectalk@aol.com">Dectalk@aol.com</a> <<a href="mailto:Dectalk@aol.com">Dectalk@aol.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> >> >>> As far as I know, Dectalk 5.0 was only a beta version. I<br>> have it<br>> >> > because<br>> >> >>> I worked for Fonix, but I can't give it out. My version<br>
> SUCKS!<br>> >> It's<br>> >> >>> just<br>> >> >>> slightly hard to understand. If they fixed it, it needed<br>> it! But I<br>> >> >>> would<br>
> >> >>> never ever buy it or use it because they changed a phonetic<br>> code and<br>> >> > did<br>> >> >>> a<br>> >> >>> few other changes.<br>
> >> >>><br>> >> >>><br>> >> >>> SNOOPI BOTTEN<br>> >> >>><br>> >> >>><br>> >> >>> In a message dated 8/20/2010 4:07:50 A.M. Eastern Daylight<br>
> Time,<br>> >> >>> <a href="mailto:johnnybrl@gmail.com">johnnybrl@gmail.com</a> writes:<br>> >> >>><br>> >> >>> Hi Alex, Yes I think I've seen that fonix has made a<br>
> Dectalk 5.0 a<br>> >> few<br>> >> >>> years<br>> >> >>> ago, if my memory is correct. However, I couldn't find<br>> where you can<br>> >> >>> download a demo version of it anywhere.<br>
> >> >>><br>> >> >>> But Yeah hopefully somebody managed to get a demo copy<br>> somewhere.<br>> >> >>><br>> >> >>> BTW, I sort of like the fonix talk6 voices, almost like the<br>
> fonix<br>> >> > dectalk<br>> >> >>> 4.6.4. And you can also create wave files in the program<br>> too.<br>> >> >>> And I was also wondering, is there a version of fonix talk<br>
> that you<br>> >> > could<br>> >> >>> use in windows like a Sapi5 engine? Was maybe thinking<br>> about getting<br>> >> > it<br>> >> >>> to<br>
> >> >>> use it with NVDA or Jaws.<br>> >> >>> ----- Original Message -----<br>> >> >>> From: "Alex H." <<a href="mailto:linuxx64.bashsh@gmail.com">linuxx64.bashsh@gmail.com</a>><br>
> >> >>> To: <<a href="mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com">dectalk@bluegrasspals.com</a>><br>> >> >>> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:29 PM<br>> >> >>> Subject: [DECtalk] DECTalk 5.0?<br>
> >> >>><br>> >> >>><br>> >> >>>> Hey all,<br>> >> >>>><br>> >> >>>> Been doing some research, aparently Fonix made a Dectalk<br>
> 5.0 before<br>> >> >>>> they started their FonixTalk synthesizer.<br>> >> >>>> Just wondering if anybody's got the demo of DECTalk 5.0?<br>> Can't find<br>
> >> it<br>> >> >>>> anywhere :(<br>> >> >>>><br>> >> >>>> Thx.<br>> >> >>>> Alex<br>
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