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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I made the MIDI files with Quick Windows
Sequencer. It can be found at <A
href="http://qws.andreLouis.com">http://qws.andreLouis.com</A> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It's a free program written by a blind individual
so as far as I know it's 100% accessible.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jayson.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 03, 2005 12:12
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi, What midi editor did you use to make these
files and if it is free where can I download it and how accessible is
it? Where is a good place to get midi files of normal songs and a
program to convert them to wav files? bye </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>My web page is at <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 03, 2005 5:59
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [DECtalk] Midi
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I just made a few MIDI files for this
purpose. You can grab them at the following url.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A
href="http://jaybird.no-ip.info/mid.zip">http://jaybird.no-ip.info/mid.zip</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>There are three files. The file row.mid
is "Row, Row, Row your Boat", mary.mid is "Mary Had a Little Lam" and
joy.mid is "Joy to the World" (the Christmas song and not the Three Dog
Night song). I made all these files. They are all single-track
files, and have nothing except the actual notes to be sung. Just about
everybody on this list will probably be familiar with these songs, so this
shouldn't be a problem.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Joy actually really provides the only test of
syllables being sung over multiple notes. Is there any provision for
the opposite. I don't even have a song in mind, but let's say there
was a song with the word 'idea' in it, where the 'dea' part was to be sung
on one note. Now, this constitutes two distinct vowel sounds. Is
the solution to make the midi accomodate the song by putting in a double
note in that instance? Actually, an actual example of this can be
found in the song "God Rest Ye, Merry Gentlemen" in the lyric "To save us
all from Satan's power". Here, the word 'power' is sung on one
note.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jayson.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 02, 2005 10:47
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [DECtalk] Midi
conversion?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Dear Jayson,<BR>Thanks for your questions.<BR>You're right
about the licensing. It would require a license for DECtalk.<BR>The
program could be distributed in a form that doesn't include DECtalk, if
the user would be content with just a function that merged the already
phoneticized DECtalk string with the midi file.<BR>The program works with
just the first track of the MIDI file, so in casese of multi-track MIDI
files, you'll want the first track to be the vocal track, rather than some
other instrument. My current implememtation doesn't isolate the vocal
track for you, but there are MIDI editor programs that allow you to strip
out the non-vocal tracks from the song and resave the stripped-down
version.<BR>As for operating systems, this program has worked under ME,
and probably would work under 98 and 2000. I've been using XP during the
last several years, as I've refined the software, but the code doesn't
depend on it's being used under XP. <BR>The program does assign one
syllable per note, where a syllable is defined as a vowel, diphthong or
syllabic consonant, plus the preceding consonants, if any. For syllables
that need to be stretched over two notes, such as the "O" in "O say can
you see by the dawn's early light....", the solution is just to put a
number (in the case of "O", it would be "2") in the DECtalk phoneme text
box directly before the phoneme for the vowel, as in "[2ow]", and the
program will automatically assign two consecutive notes to that
syllable.<BR><BR>If I have time over the weekend, I may be able to give
the list a couple examples of how this works. <BR><BR>Does anyone have a
song (with lyrics and associated midi file) for this
test?<BR><BR>Yours,<BR>John Eulenberg<BR><BR>Jayson Smith wrote:<BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks for the explanation. I do have
a few more questions. One's about DECtalk itself. Does the
software actually have a DECtalk program in it, or does it call an
external program to play the song you've just created? If DECtalk
is bundled with the program, this might present a whole mess of
licensing concerns. Most of us in this community use the freely
available DECtalk demo program put out by Digital way back when, called
speak43.exe. I have written a small program called Playdec which
will allow for command-line or Windows association playing of DECtalk
files using the Speak43 application or any similar application.
Let me know if you want a copy. The license for my program is,
basically, do whatever you want with it but if you use my code somewhere
else I'd like credit.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Is your program only usable under XP?
That's not a problem for me or probably for most others, but I'm just
wondering if it actually requires XP or if it's just not been tested on
older systems such as 98.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>My other question involves the translation
of MIDI notes into DECtalk code. Let's say you have an eight-note
MIDI file, and you create a DECtalk phonemic version of the text 'This
is a test'. Now, would the first note sing 'this', the second note
sing 'is', the third note sing 'a', and the fourth note sing
'test'? If so, what about the other four notes, would they be
silent? In other words, is it always assumed that one note equals
one syllable?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jayson.</FONT></DIV>
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Re: [DECtalk] Midi conversion?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><BIG><BIG>Dear Jayson et al.,<BR>Basically, the
program, which runs under Windows XP, presents three text windows: The
first is for English orthography (regular spelling); the second is for
DECtalk phonemic code, without the musical note codes; and the third
is for the fully "enchanted" DECtalk code, including the musical
notes. You can enter text into either the first window or the second
window. If you enter it into the first window, clicking a control
button creates the corresponding phonetic text in the second window
for you automatically. A separate navigation control allows you to
select a midi file on your computer. Then, once you have thus
specified the phonetic text in the second text window and the desired
midi file, clicking a second control button creates the fully
"enchanted" DECtalk text in the third text window. This text can then
be played by clicking a third control button. Any of the texts can be
copied to the clipboard for use in another application. Also, one can
hand-edit the text in all three windows at any time.<BR><BR>I am
working with Michigan State University on getting this software
available either for free (my preference) or for a nominal license fee
under $15.<BR><BR>As for accessibility of this software for blind
users, I think it would be accessible to a person using most screen
reading programs. I will give it a test with JAWS this
week.<BR><BR>Yours,<BR>John Eulenberg</BIG></BIG><BR><BR><BR>Jayson
Smith wrote:<BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>A few more questions if you don't
mind. I understand that this software is currently unavailable
to the public, and you'd need sufficient interest in order to
release it. With that said, I'd like to ask a few questions
which might let everybody know if this program would work for
us.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>1. What operating systems does
the program run under?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>2. How does it work? E.G.
what is the user interface like? Is it a deal where you write
a text script which describes what phonemes or sounds are to be put
on each note, or is it a graffical representation where you somehow
find the proper notes on the screen and put phonemic symbols on
those notes or something? If that's the way it is, it probably
wouldn't be that useful to most of us, as most of us on this list
probably are blind.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I think once there was talk of writing
a program to do something similar, but putting some generic phonemic
symbols on each note so you could then go in and manually put
the phonemes in.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jayson.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><BR></DIV>It hasn't been released, but it ould be. It's
pretty much a matter of clearing the MSU office of Intellectual
Property. I'd be happy to look into it if there is sufficient
interest.<BR>John B. Eulenberg<BR><PRE class=moz-signature cols="72">John Bryson Eulenberg
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Director, Artificial Language Laboratory</PRE><BR>Jayson Smith
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Has this software ever been made
available to the DECtalk community at large, or is it only
available for internal use? Just curious.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jayson.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><BR></DIV><BIG><BIG>Dear Jayson et al,<BR>We have been
doing MIDI to DECtalk conversions for years at the Michigan
State University Artificial Language Laboratory, using our own
proprietary software. Our main application has been for
nonspeaking people using a communication aid system such as
DynaVox. <BR>Our program allows the user to input either at
the phoneme level or at the level of orthographic
representation (regular spelling).<BR>Yours,<BR>John
Eulenberg</BIG></BIG><BR><BR>Jayson Smith wrote:
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type="cite"><PRE wrap="">Hey,
Did anybody ever figure out a way to convert data in MIDI files into proper
DECtalk format for singing? Obviously you'd have to put in the proper
phonemes yourself, but still it'd be nice to be able to have the notes and
durations converted.
Jayson.
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