[DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer

Fri Jul 1 11:30:47 EDT 2022

Well I'm running the IOS beta with its feedback app, so I'll suggest they also add decTalk in there as well.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dectalk <dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com> On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen
Sent: Friday, July 1, 2022 10:55
To: DECtalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
Subject: Re: [DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer

Apple does need a version of the dectalk so that those who use the vintage voices for their screen reader have choices.
If they can add the dreadful eloquence, they can  provide quality voices like Denis or even Paul.
singing is a novelty, some of us use dec-talk for actual work.

On Fri, 1 Jul 2022, Josh Kennedy wrote:

> Apple doesn't really need a version of deck talk, because the vintage Apple voices such as Fred, they can already sing and do most of the things that deck talk. Already does.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 1, 2022, at 09:42, Karen Lewellen <klewellen at shellworld.net> wrote:
>>
>> well, apple could use one as well.
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2022, Brandon Misch wrote:
>>>
>>> now all we need is a version for android at some point if possible
>>>
>>>> On 6/30/22, Isaac <bigikemusic at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi, where is the addon for nvda to use the non sapi 5 dectalk?
>>>>
>>>> On 6/30/2022 9:39 PM, joshknnd1982 at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I got the following message from the people I have hired to make 
>>>>> the much older good-sounding decTalk 4.41, 4.51 and 4.60 dlls into 
>>>>> a sapi5 version. I recommended they just modify Jake Gross’s 
>>>>> IBM-tts sapi5 interface to accept, load, and use decTalk commands 
>>>>> rather than eci.dll and IBM-tts and eloquence commands. And if 
>>>>> this works I may be able to get the old WillowPond tts dlls as sapi5 also.
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Rory MICHIE <sightlesswolfentertainment at gmail.com>
>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 30, 2022 21:57
>>>>> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmail.com
>>>>> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> This is certainly a possibility. We will look into this, as it 
>>>>> seems the building blocks have already been built.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> 
>>>>> for Windows
>>>>>
>>>>> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com
>>>>> *Sent: *Friday, July 1, 2022 8:56 AM
>>>>> *To: *Rory MICHIE <mailto:sightlesswolfentertainment at gmail.com>
>>>>> *Subject: *RE: decTalk sapi5 installer
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> It may take you far less time if you just modify Jake’s IBM-tts 
>>>>> sapi5 interface to load and use decTalk dlls and commands? The 
>>>>> github site and all its source code and his simple installer and directions is at:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://github.com/datajake1999/SAPI5IBMTTS
>>>>>
>>>>> and to make things easier and less work for you guys, just follow 
>>>>> and implement Jake’s directions for installation and 
>>>>> uninstallation but just change them slightly for decTalk dlls. 
>>>>> Would that help you guys out? And it would also let users adjust 
>>>>> speech rate, pitch and other
>>>>> sapi5 characteristics. If modifying Jake’s scripts is much easier 
>>>>> for you guys then just do that then. Lots less work for you.
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Rory MICHIE <sightlesswolfentertainment at gmail.com>
>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, June 24, 2022 13:23
>>>>> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmail.com
>>>>> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately we will not be able to implement speech rate and 
>>>>> pitch changes.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, there may be a workaround:
>>>>>
>>>>> An advanced install wizard. It will automatically configure each 
>>>>> time it’s run, and each time it will retain settings from the 
>>>>> previous run which were not changed. The install wizard will 
>>>>> handle rate and pitch changes. We can also create an optional 
>>>>> script that users can run to nudge DecTalk’s rate and pitch
>>>>>
>>>>> We will also need the documentation for the decTalk dll files, 
>>>>> since we can’t link to them without the correct function names, 
>>>>> parameters and calling conventions
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sightless Wolf Entertainment team.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> 
>>>>> for Windows
>>>>>
>>>>> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com
>>>>> *Sent: *Friday, June 24, 2022 11:34 PM
>>>>> *To: *Rory MICHIE <mailto:sightlesswolfentertainment at gmail.com>
>>>>> *Subject: *RE: decTalk sapi5 installer
>>>>>
>>>>> $500 sounds good that is what I paid about 16 years ago for 
>>>>> another text-to-speech project I just forgot about that one up until now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Kennedy
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Rory MICHIE <sightlesswolfentertainment at gmail.com>
>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 22, 2022 18:46
>>>>> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmailcom <mailto:joshknnd1982 at gmail.com>
>>>>> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for contacting us regarding your freelance work
>>>>>
>>>>> Please send the team the DLL files and we will proceed with 
>>>>> research and programming.
>>>>>
>>>>> Note: the programming might take up to a month, depending on 
>>>>> potential complexities. We will contact you regarding any further information.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> 
>>>>> for Windows
>>>>>
>>>>> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com
>>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, June 23, 2022 4:50 AM
>>>>> *To: *sightlesswolfentertainment at gmail.com
>>>>> *Subject: *decTalk sapi5 installer
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> If I send you three decTalk dll files, could you make a sapi5 
>>>>> interface and package them into an installer that would let the 
>>>>> user choose their favorite decTalk version during or before installation?
>>>>> Also with ability for all punctuation just to be sent directly to 
>>>>> the synthesizer, ability to choose any decTalk voice in other 
>>>>> words expose all decTalk voices to sapi5, ability to adjust pitch 
>>>>> volume and speech rate according to the range of whatever 
>>>>> decTalk’s parameters are. User would have to uninstall decTalk and 
>>>>> run installer again to install another version of decTalk
>>>>>
>>>>>
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