[DECtalk] DecTalk Archive hosting

Ulysses Harmony Garcia green_gables_fan33 at yahoo.com
Mon Oct 9 16:16:12 EDT 2017

Hi Jason,

I don't know how thoroughly you've read through my e-mail, but a friend 
of mine got me set up with Ubuntu and Secure CRT to control the server. 
They told me that I wouldn't be able to install Cpanel, which has its 
own mail server and Mailman, nor would I be able to install WordPress as 
quickly as I'd like. I found this out when we tried configuring the LAMP 
stack to work based on another tutorial on Digital Ocean. And yes, I am 
familiar with Linode and virtual private server, but thanks for your 
explanation nonetheless.

Ubuntu and Debian are sort of derived from one another, meaning that 
they both use the same Apt-get commands, whereas CentOS uses the Yum 
command for package management. If this is the case, how were you able 
to install the mail server and Mailman without the use of Cpanel and Web 
Hosting Manager on port 2083 and 2087?

I went ahead and installed Pure-FTPD on Ubuntu 16.04.


On 10/9/2017 12:24 PM, Jason Smith wrote:
> Hi,
> I host the DECtalk mailing list on a CentOs server hosted by 
> Linode.com. They provide virtual private servers. A virtual private 
> server is basically a slice of a real, physical server which has been 
> set aside for your use. You have your own IP address and complete Root 
> access to your virtual private server, just as if it was a real, 
> physical server. The mailing list is hosted by software called Mailman.
> I have no idea if anyone's actually hosting the DECtalk archive on the 
> web, but I do still have the BT Sync key for it, though I don't think 
> there's been anything new in quite a while.
> No, I don't use any control panel software. You do need to be willing 
> to learn about Linux system administration if you want to go the 
> Linode route.
> Hope this helps,
> Jayson
> On 10/8/2017 4:26 AM, Ulysses Harmony Garcia via Dectalk wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> I remember someone telling me about the DECtalk archive back in 
>> 2008-2010, or perhaps I found it through the DECtalk site Brandi and 
>> Louis Bryant of BrailleSoft had linked. Since that point on, I 
>> remember downloading various DECtalk files made by other artists. I 
>> don't remember how exactly I heard about the actual FTP version which 
>> had HTaccess files in Apache. I think I remember doing a Google 
>> search back in 2013 that had led up to me finding out about
>> Bluegrass Pals or something, and I ended up subscribing to this list. 
>> Since then, I was able to download the entire DECtalk archive onto my 
>> hard drive when one of the list members put it up on their BT Sync 
>> folder. That was back in 2014. Since then, I haven't kept up to date 
>> with the archive, so I don't know if any files have been added, 
>> edited, or removed. The only copy I have is one I had kept on my 
>> external hard drive. I've organised it a little bit, removing any 
>> duplicate files or renaming some files to something that would make 
>> more sense.
>> I've done most of the work on my own. I first began with a Windows
>> virtual private server at http://www.vps.net/ but I was not able to set
>> up the web server, database server and PHP to work on-line, except
>> through Localhost. I wasn't able to use Internet Information Services
>> IIS either, so I gave up and cancelled my server. Fortunately, I kept my
>> account active, so I could come back to it when I wasn't overwhelmed.
>> As primarily being an extroverted person, I get energy from working with
>> other people rather than working alone, yet for some reason, I've
>> encountered a lot of people who think that being too dependent on others
>> was a bad thing, that being completely independent was the best way to
>> go. I disagree with that. I mean, I can see why some people wouldn't
>> want to be too dependent on others for fear of taking too much of
>> someone's time or being too clingy, etc, or taking advantage of said
>> person, but I also believe that there needs to be a balance in helping
>> others and being self-reliable. This is where interdependence comes in.
>> So in September, I finally found a fellow who turned out to be someone I
>> knew by reputation, and he offered to spend his free time in helping me
>> out, especially since he has had plenty of experience in working with
>> virtual private servers and web hosting. By that time, I was a little
>> more knowledgeable to talk to others on this form about this topic.
>> http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=23002
>> I told him a little bit of what I've hoped to accomplish, and what I
>> have done so far, and how much experience I've already had. In 2010
>> through 2013, I worked on building an HTML 4.1 and 5 project in high
>> school using Notepad, and in 2013, I used CSS 3 to enhance it when I
>> took a college class in web development.
>> What I would like to do at this point is learn about any previous 
>> setup anyone here on this list has used to host the DECtalk archive. 
>> From my understanding, since there is a mailing list, I am curious to 
>> know if it is being hosted by Cpanel on CentOS, since Cpanel is not 
>> supported on an Ubuntu VPS, or if this list is being hosted by a 
>> shared hosting company that won't let you access the server using an 
>> SSH client like Putty or Secure CRT--they only let you use FTP or 
>> SFTP to upload and download files. If someone has used an FTP server 
>> on a VPS, did you use Samba or some other kind of FTP package? I am 
>> interested in hosting the DECtalk archive and link it to my web site 
>> or WordPress site.
>> If anyone has any suggestions or answers to my question I would 
>> greatly appreciate it.
>> Thanks! :-)
>> -Ulysses
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