[DECtalk] singing Dectalk and NVDA

Mohamed malhajamy at gmail.com
Wed Feb 24 16:10:04 EST 2016


Hmm, this might be worth looking into. Perhaps something isn't set 
properly somewhere. I'll install the add on and report back to you with 
anything I find.

On 02/22/16 07:38 PM, Blake Roberts wrote:
>
> I am experiencing the same difficulty in WordPad. Do I need to change 
> a setting in that program for the singing to work? I also tried 
> opening a song in Microsoft Word. In MS Word, Dectalk for NVDA won't 
> even sing one note.
>
> Blake
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:*Dectalk [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] *On Behalf 
> Of *Mohamed
> *Sent:* Monday, February 22, 2016 5:43 PM
> *To:* DECtalk
> *Subject:* Re: [DECtalk] singing Dectalk and NVDA
>
> OK, sorry for replying several times, but I believe I've found the 
> issue. Correction: if you are using notepad, maximizing the window 
> doesn't solve the problem. The issue in question seems to be that 
> notepad itself seems to randomly split text, causing dectalk to give 
> you an error. I was able to reproduce the same error you had when I 
> rendered one of your songs in notepad. The solution is to try using 
> word pad instead of notepad so that NVDA can read phonemes properly.
>
> On 02/22/16 05:35 PM, Mohamed wrote:
>
>> Try pressing left arrow just to be sure you are at the proper 
>> position as well.
>>
>> On 02/22/16 05:31 PM, Mohamed wrote:
>>
>>> OK, try making sure that you are at the top of the file, at the 
>>> first phone on command. Or, if you're doing this in notepad, try 
>>> maxumizing the window so code doesn't get split half way through.
>>>
>>> On 02/22/16 08:49 AM, Blake Roberts wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dectalk only sings one note and it's always the wrong one. I 
>>>> suspect it gets stuck at the first less than sign. I tried playing 
>>>> a couple of my songs. Dectalk for NVDA always sings the wrong note 
>>>> before the crash. That's why I think the add-on gets stuck at the 
>>>> first less than. As an example of what's happening, attached is an 
>>>> unedited demo of Dectalk trying to sing my I Made It Through The 
>>>> Rain song. After opening the text file, I use the read all command, 
>>>> NVDA Key-down arrow.
>>>>
>>>> Blake
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> *From:*Dectalk [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] *On 
>>>> Behalf Of *Mohamed
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, February 22, 2016 3:56 AM
>>>> *To:* DECtalk
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [DECtalk] singing Dectalk and NVDA
>>>>
>>>> By one note, what exactly do you mean? Do you mean that you can 
>>>> only insert one phoneme before it gives you an error? Is it 
>>>> possible for you to, say, record a demo of what goes wrong?
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> On 02/20/16 02:06 PM, Blake Roberts wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I installed the singing Dectalk NVDA add-on from Jeff's site. I'm 
>>>>> still having difficulty making it sing. I followed the 
>>>>> instructions as follows:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Copy symbols.dic from the NVDA Dectalk folder to NVDA config 
>>>>> directory replacing what's there.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Delete builtin.dic in program files (x86)\nvda.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can only get it to sing one note before hearing "error in 
>>>>> phoneme." I checked the dectalk.py Python file by opening it in 
>>>>> Wordpad. I found a text note there saying the program code 
>>>>> requiring removal had already been deleted. Since I have no 
>>>>> knowledge of the Python programming language which NVDA uses, I 
>>>>> did not edit that file at all. Is there something else I need to 
>>>>> do for singing capability to work in NVDA?
>>>>>
>>>>> Blake
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:*Dectalk [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] *On 
>>>>> Behalf Of *Mohamed
>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 16, 2016 2:58 PM
>>>>> *To:* DECtalk
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [DECtalk] singing Dectalk and NVDA
>>>>>
>>>>> Or you could, if you'd like, just install the add on on Jeff's 
>>>>> site, that one is pre built, and the code is already removed.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 02/15/16 09:02 PM, Blake Roberts wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the specific instructions. I somehow managed to 
>>>>>> temporarily break NVDA. Perhaps I deleted the wrong line in the 
>>>>>> dectalk.py file located in
>>>>>>
>>>>>> %appdata%\nvda\addons\dectalk\synthdrivers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> after editing it in WordPad. In any case, I will be reinstalling 
>>>>>> NVDA and attempt to make the DT nvda add-on sing on another day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Blake
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:*Dectalk [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] *On 
>>>>>> Behalf Of *Mohamed
>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, February 15, 2016 6:54 PM
>>>>>> *To:* DECtalk
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [DECtalk] singing Dectalk and NVDA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's in addons\dectalk\synthdrivers, not in synth drivers. The 
>>>>>> code is commented in the .py file itself, so it should be easy to 
>>>>>> find. Also, about the symbol pronunciation dialog, it has 3 combo 
>>>>>> boxes for symbols. The symbol, its replacement, and preserve. If 
>>>>>> you want something to go to the synthesizer, the combo box itself 
>>>>>> is labeled "send actual symbol to synthesizer", you set it to 
>>>>>> always for the proper symbols. Or, if you would like a dictionary 
>>>>>> pre built, there's one at http://jeff.tdrealms.com/NVDA.htm. Just 
>>>>>> find the addon labeled "singing dectalk", it contains 
>>>>>> instructions on how to get it to work. And the shortcut to access 
>>>>>> the NVDA menu can be changed in input gestures, in the filter by 
>>>>>> combo box, search for NVDA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 02/15/16 05:36 PM, Blake Roberts wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am having trouble getting the Singing Dectalk NVDA add-on to 
>>>>>>> sing. I tried following the instructions posted in September and 
>>>>>>> archived here:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/pipermail/dectalk/2015-September/004408.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can't find dectalk.py so that I can edit it and delete the 
>>>>>>> line which prevents speech commands being sent to the 
>>>>>>> synthesizer. Where is dectalk.py located? I already looked in 
>>>>>>> the synth drivers folder.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I also have an NVDA question on Snoopi's behalf. He has the 
>>>>>>> latest NVDA snapshot and the singing Dectalk add-on installed. 
>>>>>>> Is it possible to set up a keyboard shortcut to load the NVDA 
>>>>>>> menu? It is difficult for him to enter the NVDA menu using the 
>>>>>>> standard command. It is also worth noting that Snoopi and I are 
>>>>>>> both lost Re: the punctuations and symbols dialog box.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Blake
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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