[DECtalk] wuesion about DECtalk in screen readers

Alex H. linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com
Fri Jul 10 15:44:07 EDT 2015


I only did it to see if it would work, and never saved it.
I would go something like:
ah, in middle c. Desktop list.
ah, in middle c. my documents 1 of 22
ah, in middle c. Recycle bin 2 of 22
ah, in middle c. whatever happens next
ah, in middle c. Every string of text
ah, in middle c. dectalk is the best.
ah, in middle c. not the way to sing.

Etc...
So it wasn't practical at all.

On 7/10/15, Mohamed via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
> I'm interested in it as well.
>
> On 07/09/15 05:29 PM, Jake Gross via Dectalk wrote:
>> Mohamed, to interact with the virtual machine, press ctrl+g.
>> Alix, can you please send me the dectalk addon that can somewhat sing?
>> Thanks.
>> Jake
>>
>> On 7/9/15, Mike S via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>> Jeesh it's too bad. I used to use ASAP in DOS and it had a keystroke
>>> called "zap text to synthesizer" which did just that: shoot whatever
>>> you typed right to the synth with no processing whatsoever.  I feel
>>> like technology has gone backwards in a lot of ways.
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/8/15, Alex H. via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>> I got dectalk to sing in NVDA but it was irritating. You had to
>>>> hard-code the stuff in order to get [:phone on] to work, and in any
>>>> case it was limited by only being able to send the same commands in
>>>> each chunk of text sent to the synthesizer; I did that by modifying
>>>> the speak function in the driver itself. So in other words, it was
>>>> impossible and unrealistic.
>>>>
>>>> I also made JAWS kind of sing using Dectalk, using a different tactic.
>>>> I modified each punctuation in the JAWS config manager to not be a
>>>> string, putting literal punctiation marks like brackets in places of
>>>> the word bracket and so on. But then, JAWS does something screwy with
>>>> spaces, so none of the commands with spaces as expected worked. So a
>>>> sample tts command would be something like: [:dvpr200gh70ri90]...
>>>> Which is annoying to read and didn't always work. Plus, there were
>>>> side effects in this method of making Dectalk speak differently using
>>>> the punctuation hack thing I explained above.
>>>>
>>>> There's nothing that is a screen reader that can let Dectalk have full
>>>> control of the strings of text that are spoken, at least as far as I
>>>> know.
>>>>
>>>> Alex
>>>>
>>>> On 7/8/15, Mohamed via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>> Odd that in Patrick Perdue's demo, it didn't end up working out.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 07/08/15 12:41 AM, Jitendra Kumar via Dectalk wrote:
>>>>>> Well I remember one thing: in earlier days, Hal from dolphin access
>>>>>> used to accept many DECtalk commands, including sm,ri and many
>>>>>> others.
>>>>>> it does not include the singing part though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/8/15, Jake Gross via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Speaking of singing screen readers, ibm desktop reader accepts the
>>>>>>> eloquence speech commands.
>>>>>>> This means I can use notepad as an eloquence speak window.
>>>>>>> Ibm desktop reader was the mini screen reader that was bundled with
>>>>>>> ibm homepage reader.
>>>>>>> It works on windows nt 4.0, windows 2000, and windows xp.
>>>>>>> A Windows nt 4.0 and a windows 2000 virtual machines with ibm
>>>>>>> desktop
>>>>>>> reader included can be found at http://grossgang.com/vmware
>>>>>>> Jake
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7/7/15, Mohamed via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> And also if only the NVDA add on supported speech commands. But
>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>> again, it's probably very difficult to get the preprocessing NVDA
>>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>> out of the way.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 07/07/15 02:49 AM, Brandon Misch via Dectalk wrote:
>>>>>>>>> it does work now if we can solve the jaws and access 32 issue that
>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>> be nice.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 6, 2015, at 2:56 PM, Piotr Machacz via Dectalk
>>>>>>>>>> <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>> I vaguely remember that I was able to get the system access
>>>>>>>>>> dectalk
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> change voices, but that was back in 2007 or 2008. It may still
>>>>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 06 Jul 2015, at 20:35, Mohamed via Dectalk
>>>>>>>>>>> <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys, so, I have another DECtalk question. So, are their any,
>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>> all, any screen reader implementations of DECtalk that actually
>>>>>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>>>>>> speech commands and singing? I know that many screen readers
>>>>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>>>>> support it because of all the punctuation preprocessing they do,
>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> was wondering if their are any screen readers that support
>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk
>>>>>>>>>>> speech commands.
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
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