[DECtalk] wuesion about DECtalk in screen readers

[Jake Gross]

Mohamed, to interact with the virtual machine, press ctrl+g.
Alix, can you please send me the dectalk addon that can somewhat sing?
Thanks.
Jake

On 7/9/15, Mike S via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
> Jeesh it's too bad. I used to use ASAP in DOS and it had a keystroke
> called "zap text to synthesizer" which did just that: shoot whatever
> you typed right to the synth with no processing whatsoever.  I feel
> like technology has gone backwards in a lot of ways.
> Mike
>
>
> On 7/8/15, Alex H. via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>> I got dectalk to sing in NVDA but it was irritating. You had to
>> hard-code the stuff in order to get [:phone on] to work, and in any
>> case it was limited by only being able to send the same commands in
>> each chunk of text sent to the synthesizer; I did that by modifying
>> the speak function in the driver itself. So in other words, it was
>> impossible and unrealistic.
>>
>> I also made JAWS kind of sing using Dectalk, using a different tactic.
>> I modified each punctuation in the JAWS config manager to not be a
>> string, putting literal punctiation marks like brackets in places of
>> the word bracket and so on. But then, JAWS does something screwy with
>> spaces, so none of the commands with spaces as expected worked. So a
>> sample tts command would be something like: [:dvpr200gh70ri90]...
>> Which is annoying to read and didn't always work. Plus, there were
>> side effects in this method of making Dectalk speak differently using
>> the punctuation hack thing I explained above.
>>
>> There's nothing that is a screen reader that can let Dectalk have full
>> control of the strings of text that are spoken, at least as far as I
>> know.
>>
>> Alex
>>
>> On 7/8/15, Mohamed via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>> Odd that in Patrick Perdue's demo, it didn't end up working out.
>>>
>>> On 07/08/15 12:41 AM, Jitendra Kumar via Dectalk wrote:
>>>> Well I remember one thing: in earlier days, Hal from dolphin access
>>>> used to accept many DECtalk commands, including sm,ri and many others.
>>>> it does not include the singing part though.
>>>>
>>>> On 7/8/15, Jake Gross via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>> Speaking of singing screen readers, ibm desktop reader accepts the
>>>>> eloquence speech commands.
>>>>> This means I can use notepad as an eloquence speak window.
>>>>> Ibm desktop reader was the mini screen reader that was bundled with
>>>>> ibm homepage reader.
>>>>> It works on windows nt 4.0, windows 2000, and windows xp.
>>>>> A Windows nt 4.0 and a windows 2000 virtual machines with ibm desktop
>>>>> reader included can be found at http://grossgang.com/vmware
>>>>> Jake
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/7/15, Mohamed via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>> And also if only the NVDA add on supported speech commands. But then
>>>>>> again, it's probably very difficult to get the preprocessing NVDA
>>>>>> does
>>>>>> out of the way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 07/07/15 02:49 AM, Brandon Misch via Dectalk wrote:
>>>>>>> it does work now if we can solve the jaws and access 32 issue that
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> be nice.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jul 6, 2015, at 2:56 PM, Piotr Machacz via Dectalk
>>>>>>>> <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> I vaguely remember that I was able to get the system access dectalk
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> change voices, but that was back in 2007 or 2008. It may still
>>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 06 Jul 2015, at 20:35, Mohamed via Dectalk
>>>>>>>>> <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi guys, so, I have another DECtalk question. So, are their any,
>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>> all, any screen reader implementations of DECtalk that actually
>>>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>>>> speech commands and singing? I know that many screen readers can't
>>>>>>>>> support it because of all the punctuation preprocessing they do,
>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> was wondering if their are any screen readers that support DECtalk
>>>>>>>>> speech commands.
>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
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