[DECtalk] wuesion about DECtalk in screen readers

[Mike S]

Jeesh it's too bad. I used to use ASAP in DOS and it had a keystroke
called "zap text to synthesizer" which did just that: shoot whatever
you typed right to the synth with no processing whatsoever.  I feel
like technology has gone backwards in a lot of ways.
Mike


On 7/8/15, Alex H. via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
> I got dectalk to sing in NVDA but it was irritating. You had to
> hard-code the stuff in order to get [:phone on] to work, and in any
> case it was limited by only being able to send the same commands in
> each chunk of text sent to the synthesizer; I did that by modifying
> the speak function in the driver itself. So in other words, it was
> impossible and unrealistic.
>
> I also made JAWS kind of sing using Dectalk, using a different tactic.
> I modified each punctuation in the JAWS config manager to not be a
> string, putting literal punctiation marks like brackets in places of
> the word bracket and so on. But then, JAWS does something screwy with
> spaces, so none of the commands with spaces as expected worked. So a
> sample tts command would be something like: [:dvpr200gh70ri90]...
> Which is annoying to read and didn't always work. Plus, there were
> side effects in this method of making Dectalk speak differently using
> the punctuation hack thing I explained above.
>
> There's nothing that is a screen reader that can let Dectalk have full
> control of the strings of text that are spoken, at least as far as I
> know.
>
> Alex
>
> On 7/8/15, Mohamed via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>> Odd that in Patrick Perdue's demo, it didn't end up working out.
>>
>> On 07/08/15 12:41 AM, Jitendra Kumar via Dectalk wrote:
>>> Well I remember one thing: in earlier days, Hal from dolphin access
>>> used to accept many DECtalk commands, including sm,ri and many others.
>>> it does not include the singing part though.
>>>
>>> On 7/8/15, Jake Gross via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>> Speaking of singing screen readers, ibm desktop reader accepts the
>>>> eloquence speech commands.
>>>> This means I can use notepad as an eloquence speak window.
>>>> Ibm desktop reader was the mini screen reader that was bundled with
>>>> ibm homepage reader.
>>>> It works on windows nt 4.0, windows 2000, and windows xp.
>>>> A Windows nt 4.0 and a windows 2000 virtual machines with ibm desktop
>>>> reader included can be found at http://grossgang.com/vmware
>>>> Jake
>>>>
>>>> On 7/7/15, Mohamed via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>> And also if only the NVDA add on supported speech commands. But then
>>>>> again, it's probably very difficult to get the preprocessing NVDA does
>>>>> out of the way.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 07/07/15 02:49 AM, Brandon Misch via Dectalk wrote:
>>>>>> it does work now if we can solve the jaws and access 32 issue that
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> be nice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 6, 2015, at 2:56 PM, Piotr Machacz via Dectalk
>>>>>>> <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> I vaguely remember that I was able to get the system access dectalk
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> change voices, but that was back in 2007 or 2008. It may still work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 06 Jul 2015, at 20:35, Mohamed via Dectalk
>>>>>>>> <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi guys, so, I have another DECtalk question. So, are their any, if
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>> all, any screen reader implementations of DECtalk that actually
>>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>>> speech commands and singing? I know that many screen readers can't
>>>>>>>> support it because of all the punctuation preprocessing they do,
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> was wondering if their are any screen readers that support DECtalk
>>>>>>>> speech commands.
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
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