[DECtalk] a decent speech synthesizer for primary use

mattias mjonsson1986 at gmail.com
Sun Aug 31 12:44:43 EDT 2014


i solved it
must say it sounds robotic
Carlos Fernandez via Dectalk skrev den 2014-08-31 18:37:
> OK. To solve this problem, you will need the sapi4 engine. You can 
> find this in the BTSync share. Look in the software folder, then 
> sapi_software, and install the file sapi4engine.exe. Then, you can 
> install any voices and try the NVDA synthesizer. You might have to 
> restart NVDA for the changes to take effect. If you have problems, 
> just let me know.
>
> Carlos
> On 8/31/2014 10:53, mattias via Dectalk wrote:
>> i dont have the option
>> only sapi5
>> or will it work on win8
>> Blake Roberts via Dectalk skrev den 2014-08-31 17:43:
>>> Chatterbox should start talking after you install it and select SAPI 
>>> version
>>> 4 in the NVDA synthesizer list.
>>> Blake
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Dectalk [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of
>>> mattias via Dectalk
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 11:01 AM
>>> To: DECtalk
>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] a decent speech synthesizer for primary use
>>>
>>> how to actually get the tts working?
>>> win8
>>> Jim Hunt via Dectalk skrev den 2014-08-31 16:26:
>>>> Very well said Alex.  For those who quivel about the legalities of
>>>> abandonware ... who cares?  The point here is that SoftVoice is
>>> abandonware.
>>>> Abandonware is software that has been and is abandoned and no longer
>>>> supported.  Some of the companies who developed abandonware are no 
>>>> longer
>>>> even in existence anymore.  (As a side note, there is a BT Sync 
>>>> archive
>>>> dedicated to abandonware games.)  Folks, as long as there's an 
>>>> interest in
>>>> playing with these older synths, I say, friends, play away!
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Dectalk [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf 
>>>> Of Alex
>>>> H. via Dectalk
>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 10:14 AM
>>>> To: DECtalk
>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] a decent speech synthesizer for primary use
>>>>
>>>> I'll say something and I hope you're reading carefully.
>>>>
>>>> Please stop asking if everything is legal. Most people will 
>>>> disregard your
>>>> message anyway, as legal/illegal software is a touchy topic for some
>>> people,
>>>> and honestly, it gets old that you ask after every message. Read 
>>>> licenses,
>>>> and either care to follow them, or don't.
>>>> That's entirely up to you.
>>>>
>>>> I believe the Softvoice corp is long dead, so for all purposes just 
>>>> keep
>>>> using it. It's antiquated and 16-bit stuff that works with SAPI4.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8/30/14, brandon T via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I know that the Chatterbox voice has some things wrong, but it is
>>>>> working pretty well for me. I have the new driver.
>>>>>
>>>>> How can this be free and legal if it is based on a commercial 
>>>>> product,
>>>>> Softvoice, that was not free?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you very much for your time and I look forward to any 
>>>>> assistance
>>>>> you are willing to provide.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>
>>>>> Brandon Tyson
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/30/14, Alex H. via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Chatterbox has issues and reads numbers as single digits, e.g., 301
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> 3 0 1.It also breaks when using the shift key to pause or start
>>>>>> typing. I modified the sapi4 NVDA driver about 2 years ago, but cant
>>>>>> find the file now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I use Vocalizer or Orpheus or espeak these days, with some Eloquence
>>>>>> in their too. My DEC USB is at home sadly, so I can't use it
>>>>>> currently. I avoid synths with issues, but they're fun to play with
>>>>>> for sure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/30/14, brandon T via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree with you on that it sounds like Softvoice. Do you think 
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> would have intentionally modified the license file to make us think
>>>>>>> it was free?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you very much for your time and I look forward to a response.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>> BRANDON TYSON
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/30/14, Jake Gross via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> This synth sounds like softvoice, an abandonware speech 
>>>>>>>> synthesizer
>>>>>>>> that wasn't free.
>>>>>>>> I assumed this was a sapi4 version.
>>>>>>>> Maybe chatterbox uses similar speech technology.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: brandon T via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>>>>> To: DECtalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com Date sent: Sat, 30 Aug 2014
>>>>>>>> 18:49:35 -0400
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] a decent speech synthesizer for primary use
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The license.txt file says that we are able to redistribute this
>>>>>>>> freely, and it also says that we got this for free. So, do you 
>>>>>>>> mind
>>>>>>>> if I please ask how this is abandonware please?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Brandon
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 8/30/14, Jake Gross via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>    To me, Nv speech player sounds similar to Infovox 230 , and
>>>>>>>> Monologue sounds like Doubletalk.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>    From: brandon T via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>>>>>    To: DECtalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com  Date sent: Sat, 30 Aug
>>>>>>>> 2014 00:29:19 -0400
>>>>>>>>    Subject: Re: [DECtalk] a decent speech synthesizer for primary
>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    So, if I read the license correctly, it said something about I
>>>>>>>> can  redistribute this software and that it's free, why does it 
>>>>>>>> say
>>>>>>>> that if  it's abandonware? It says that in the license.txt file.
>>>>>>>> How do  you  know that the modified sapi4.py file is legal?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Brandon
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    On 8/30/14, Jake Gross via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>>>>>    wrote:
>>>>>>>>     It is abandonware.
>>>>>>>>     Speech rate is not supported.
>>>>>>>>     Did you copy the sapi4.py file to your nvda user configuration
>>>>>>>>     directory?
>>>>>>>>     This driver prevents the synth from crashing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>     From: brandon T viaDectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>>>>>     To: DECtalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>>>>>     Date sent: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 23:42:52 -0400
>>>>>>>>     Subject: Re: [DECtalk] a decent speech synthesizer for primary
>>>>>>>>     use
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Hello,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Is this synthesizer illegal?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Also, it isn't speaking as I change the speed of the voice.
>>>>>>>>    Also,
>>>>>>>>     it
>>>>>>>>     is crashing sometimes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Thank you very much for your time and I look forward to a
>>>>>>>>     response.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Brandon Tyson
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     On 8/29/14, Jake Gross via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>>>>>     wrote:
>>>>>>>>      What part of the installer can't you read.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>      From: brandon T via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>>>>>      To: DECtalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>>>>>      Date sent: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 23:06:51 -0400
>>>>>>>>      Subject: Re: [DECtalk] a decent speech synthesizer for 
>>>>>>>> primary
>>>>>>>>      use
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      Unfortunately I can't read the installer. I am not sure if it
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>      in English.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      Thanks for telling me about this, I really appreciate it!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      Brandon
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      On 8/29/14, Jake Gross via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>>>>>      wrote:
>>>>>>>>       Have you ever tried chatterbox?
>>>>>>>>       It is a sapi4 english/rushen speech synthesizer.
>>>>>>>>       You can find it at
>>>>>>>> http://grossgang.com/tts/sapi_voices/chatterbox.zip
>>>>>>>>       Jake
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>        ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>       From: brandon T via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>>>>>       To: DECtalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>>>>>       Date sent: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 21:12:00 -0400
>>>>>>>>       Subject: Re: [DECtalk] a decent speech synthesizer for 
>>>>>>>> primary
>>>>>>>>       use
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       Thank you for this information. I thought that maybe another
>>>>>>>>       thing
>>>>>>>>       was, with the Microsoft voices, I should try them at a 
>>>>>>>> faster
>>>>>>>>       speed.
>>>>>>>>       For now, they are ok.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       Thank you very much for your time, I really appreciate it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       I hope that you are having an awesome day!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       Brandon
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       On 8/29/14, Blake Roberts via Dectalk
>>>>>>>>     <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>>>>>       wrote:
>>>>>>>>        I know that the AT&T Natural voices were recorded at 16k
>>>>>>>>      instead
>>>>>>>>       of the
>>>>>>>>        typical 22k for recorded speech samples. However, they 
>>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>>      not
>>>>>>>>       work as
>>>>>>>>        your primary synth due to large size of each voice. I
>>>>>>>>     purchased
>>>>>>>>       some AT&T
>>>>>>>>        voices which I use as primary voices within OpenBook, but
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>       are used for
>>>>>>>>        short periods. AT&T voices might work as your primary synth
>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>       you have a
>>>>>>>>        lot of Ram memory in your computer, i.e. more than a gig or
>>>>>>>>      two.
>>>>>>>>        Blake
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>        -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>        From: Dectalk [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On
>>>>>>>>       Behalf Of
>>>>>>>>        brandon T via Dectalk
>>>>>>>>        Sent: Friday, August 29, 2014 8:40 PM
>>>>>>>>        To: DECtalk
>>>>>>>>        Subject: Re: [DECtalk] a decent speech synthesizer for
>>>>>>>> primary
>>>>>>>>       use
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>        Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>        I am wondering if maybe the voices are just sounding too 
>>>>>>>> real
>>>>>>>>      to
>>>>>>>>       me.
>>>>>>>>        Are there any that are recorded at a lower audio quality
>>>>>>>>      please?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>        Thank you very much for your time and I look forward to any
>>>>>>>>       assistance
>>>>>>>>        you are willing to provide.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>        Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>        Brandon Tyson
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>        On 8/29/14, Blake Roberts via Dectalk
>>>>>>>>       <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>        Daniel,
>>>>>>>>        Ivona voices are SAPI5. To use them in NVDA I simply 
>>>>>>>> changed
>>>>>>>>       from ESpeak
>>>>>>>>        to
>>>>>>>>        SAPI version 5 in the synthesizers list.
>>>>>>>>        Blake
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>        -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>        From: Dectalk [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On
>>>>>>>>       Behalf Of
>>>>>>>>        Daniel
>>>>>>>>        Wolak via Dectalk
>>>>>>>>        Sent: Friday, August 29, 2014 8:07 PM
>>>>>>>>        To: DECtalk
>>>>>>>>        Subject: Re: [DECtalk] a decent speech synthesizer for
>>>>>>>> primary
>>>>>>>>       use
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>        Hi,
>>>>>>>>        I mostly use eloquence with nvda... A question for you
>>>>>>>> blake:
>>>>>>>>       what do
>>>>>>>>        you use to interface the ivona voices with nvda as I've 
>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>       thinking of
>>>>>>>>        trying them?
>>>>>>>>        Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>        Daniel
>>>>>>>>        On 29/08/2014 8:00 PM, Blake Roberts via Dectalk wrote:
>>>>>>>>        Brandon,
>>>>>>>>        Although I use Eloquence as my primary synth in Jaws, Ivona
>>>>>>>>       voices are a
>>>>>>>>        close second. They are my primary voices within NVDA. 
>>>>>>>> Voices
>>>>>>>>       from Ivona
>>>>>>>>        are
>>>>>>>>        not free but you can trial each voice for 30 days before
>>>>>>>>       purchase is
>>>>>>>>        required. I prefer slow speeds so I'm not sure how Ivona
>>>>>>>>     sounds
>>>>>>>>       at fast
>>>>>>>>        rates. I use Ivona voices because all of the voices sound
>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>       natural.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>        Have you tried the Orpheus synth? I purchased Orpheus but
>>>>>>>>     don't
>>>>>>>>       use it
>>>>>>>>        anymore because those voices are too fast for my liking.
>>>>>>>> Like
>>>>>>>>       Ivona, you
>>>>>>>>        can
>>>>>>>>        trial Orpheus for 30 days before purchase is required. The
>>>>>>>>       difference is
>>>>>>>>        with Orpheus you receive all voices, whereas Ivona 
>>>>>>>> voices are
>>>>>>>>       downloaded
>>>>>>>>        one
>>>>>>>>        voice at a time.
>>>>>>>>        Blake
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>        -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>        From: Dectalk [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On
>>>>>>>>       Behalf Of
>>>>>>>>        brandon T via Dectalk
>>>>>>>>        Sent: Friday, August 29, 2014 7:48 PM
>>>>>>>>        To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>>>>>>        Subject: [DECtalk] a decent speech synthesizer for primary
>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>        Hello,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>        I have been looking at Sapi 4 and Sapi 5 voices today. 
>>>>>>>> Also,
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>       have
>>>>>>>>        been looking at Speech Player. I am familiar with a lot of
>>>>>>>>       voices,
>>>>>>>>        including Acapela, Eloquence, DecTalk, Microsoft voices 
>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>       Sam, the
>>>>>>>>        LH synthesizer, the Digalo voices, Infovox 230 and 330,
>>>>>>>>     eSpeak,
>>>>>>>>        Neospeech and others. Here is my problem. I have been 
>>>>>>>> majorly
>>>>>>>>        investigating voices for years. I guess the main problem is
>>>>>>>>      that
>>>>>>>>       all
>>>>>>>>        of the voices do something that I don't like. Eloquence 
>>>>>>>> makes
>>>>>>>>     a
>>>>>>>>        clicking sound when it goes really fast. I have trouble
>>>>>>>>       understanding
>>>>>>>>        DecTalk when it goes really fast. The Acapela voices 
>>>>>>>> are, in
>>>>>>>>     my
>>>>>>>>        opinion, too hard to use as a primary voice. I have thought
>>>>>>>>       about
>>>>>>>>        Infovox 230 and 330, but I cant do anything legally except
>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>>       the
>>>>>>>>        trial. Also, I can't use Eloquence legally with NVDA. The
>>>>>>>>      Digalo
>>>>>>>>        voices are hard to understand when speaking long amounts of
>>>>>>>>      text
>>>>>>>>        because they stop reading for a few seconds in the 
>>>>>>>> middle of
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>        sentence. The Microsoft voices are ok, but again, the way
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>       they
>>>>>>>>        read is hard for me to get used to. ESpeak sometimes is 
>>>>>>>> hard
>>>>>>>>      for
>>>>>>>>       me
>>>>>>>>        because when it goes fast, I hear this sort of interesting
>>>>>>>>      sound
>>>>>>>>       in
>>>>>>>>        the middle of the speech. The LH voices are hard because,
>>>>>>>>     well,
>>>>>>>>       I
>>>>>>>>        unfortunately can't explain it. Do you mind if I please 
>>>>>>>> ask,
>>>>>>>>       what
>>>>>>>>        synthesizer do you use primarily, the reasons you use it,
>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>       is good
>>>>>>>>        about it, and what is not as good please? I am hoping that,
>>>>>>>>      with
>>>>>>>>       input
>>>>>>>>        and suggestions, I can hopefully find something that I will
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>       able to
>>>>>>>>        use primarily.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>        Thank you very much for your time and I look forward to any
>>>>>>>>       assistance
>>>>>>>>        you are willing to provide
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>        .Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>        Brandon Tyson
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