[DECtalk] a decent speech synthesizer for primary use
brandon T
brandongold98 at gmail.com
Sat Aug 30 22:16:46 EDT 2014
Hi,
I know that the Chatterbox voice has some things wrong, but it is
working pretty well for me. I have the new driver.
How can this be free and legal if it is based on a commercial product,
Softvoice, that was not free?
Thank you very much for your time and I look forward to any assistance
you are willing to provide.
Sincerely,
Brandon Tyson
On 8/30/14, Alex H. via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
> Chatterbox has issues and reads numbers as single digits, e.g., 301 as
> 3 0 1.It also breaks when using the shift key to pause or start
> typing. I modified the sapi4 NVDA driver about 2 years ago, but cant
> find the file now.
>
> I use Vocalizer or Orpheus or espeak these days, with some Eloquence
> in their too. My DEC USB is at home sadly, so I can't use it
> currently. I avoid synths with issues, but they're fun to play with
> for sure.
>
> On 8/30/14, brandon T via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I agree with you on that it sounds like Softvoice. Do you think they
>> would have intentionally modified the license file to make us think it
>> was free?
>>
>> Thank you very much for your time and I look forward to a response.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> BRANDON TYSON
>>
>> On 8/30/14, Jake Gross via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>> This synth sounds like softvoice, an abandonware speech
>>> synthesizer that wasn't free.
>>> I assumed this was a sapi4 version.
>>> Maybe chatterbox uses similar speech technology.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: brandon T via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>> To: DECtalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>> Date sent: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 18:49:35 -0400
>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] a decent speech synthesizer for primary
>>> use
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> The license.txt file says that we are able to redistribute this
>>> freely, and it also says that we got this for free. So, do you
>>> mind if
>>> I please ask how this is abandonware please?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Brandon
>>>
>>> On 8/30/14, Jake Gross via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> To me, Nv speech player sounds similar to Infovox 230 , and
>>> Monologue sounds like Doubletalk.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: brandon T via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>> To: DECtalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>> Date sent: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 00:29:19 -0400
>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] a decent speech synthesizer for primary
>>> use
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> So, if I read the license correctly, it said something about I
>>> can
>>> redistribute this software and that it's free, why does it say
>>> that if
>>> it's abandonware? It says that in the license.txt file. How do
>>> you
>>> know that the modified sapi4.py file is legal?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Brandon
>>>
>>> On 8/30/14, Jake Gross via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>> wrote:
>>> It is abandonware.
>>> Speech rate is not supported.
>>> Did you copy the sapi4.py file to your nvda user configuration
>>> directory?
>>> This driver prevents the synth from crashing.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: brandon T viaDectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>> To: DECtalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>> Date sent: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 23:42:52 -0400
>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] a decent speech synthesizer for primary
>>> use
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Is this synthesizer illegal?
>>>
>>> Also, it isn't speaking as I change the speed of the voice.
>>> Also,
>>> it
>>> is crashing sometimes.
>>>
>>> Thank you very much for your time and I look forward to a
>>> response.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Brandon Tyson
>>>
>>> On 8/29/14, Jake Gross via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>> wrote:
>>> What part of the installer can't you read.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: brandon T via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>> To: DECtalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>> Date sent: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 23:06:51 -0400
>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] a decent speech synthesizer for primary
>>> use
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Unfortunately I can't read the installer. I am not sure if it
>>> is
>>> in English.
>>>
>>> Thanks for telling me about this, I really appreciate it!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Brandon
>>>
>>> On 8/29/14, Jake Gross via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>> wrote:
>>> Have you ever tried chatterbox?
>>> It is a sapi4 english/rushen speech synthesizer.
>>> You can find it at
>>> http://grossgang.com/tts/sapi_voices/chatterbox.zip
>>> Jake
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: brandon T via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>> To: DECtalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>> Date sent: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 21:12:00 -0400
>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] a decent speech synthesizer for
>>> primary
>>> use
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Thank you for this information. I thought that maybe another
>>> thing
>>> was, with the Microsoft voices, I should try them at a faster
>>> speed.
>>> For now, they are ok.
>>>
>>> Thank you very much for your time, I really appreciate it.
>>>
>>> I hope that you are having an awesome day!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Brandon
>>>
>>> On 8/29/14, Blake Roberts via Dectalk
>>> <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>> wrote:
>>> I know that the AT&T Natural voices were recorded at 16k
>>> instead
>>> of the
>>> typical 22k for recorded speech samples. However, they might
>>> not
>>> work as
>>> your primary synth due to large size of each voice. I
>>> purchased
>>> some AT&T
>>> voices which I use as primary voices within OpenBook, but
>>> they
>>> are used for
>>> short periods. AT&T voices might work as your primary synth
>>> if
>>> you have a
>>> lot of Ram memory in your computer, i.e. more than a gig or
>>> two.
>>> Blake
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Dectalk [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On
>>> Behalf Of
>>> brandon T via Dectalk
>>> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2014 8:40 PM
>>> To: DECtalk
>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] a decent speech synthesizer for
>>> primary
>>> use
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am wondering if maybe the voices are just sounding too
>>> real
>>> to
>>> me.
>>> Are there any that are recorded at a lower audio quality
>>> please?
>>>
>>> Thank you very much for your time and I look forward to any
>>> assistance
>>> you are willing to provide.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Brandon Tyson
>>>
>>> On 8/29/14, Blake Roberts via Dectalk
>>> <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>> Daniel,
>>> Ivona voices are SAPI5. To use them in NVDA I simply changed
>>> from ESpeak
>>> to
>>> SAPI version 5 in the synthesizers list.
>>> Blake
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Dectalk [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On
>>> Behalf Of
>>> Daniel
>>> Wolak via Dectalk
>>> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2014 8:07 PM
>>> To: DECtalk
>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] a decent speech synthesizer for
>>> primary
>>> use
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I mostly use eloquence with nvda... A question for you
>>> blake:
>>> what do
>>> you use to interface the ivona voices with nvda as I've been
>>> thinking of
>>> trying them?
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>> On 29/08/2014 8:00 PM, Blake Roberts via Dectalk wrote:
>>> Brandon,
>>> Although I use Eloquence as my primary synth in Jaws, Ivona
>>> voices are a
>>> close second. They are my primary voices within NVDA. Voices
>>> from Ivona
>>> are
>>> not free but you can trial each voice for 30 days before
>>> purchase is
>>> required. I prefer slow speeds so I'm not sure how Ivona
>>> sounds
>>> at fast
>>> rates. I use Ivona voices because all of the voices sound
>>> very
>>> natural.
>>>
>>> Have you tried the Orpheus synth? I purchased Orpheus but
>>> don't
>>> use it
>>> anymore because those voices are too fast for my liking.
>>> Like
>>> Ivona, you
>>> can
>>> trial Orpheus for 30 days before purchase is required. The
>>> difference is
>>> with Orpheus you receive all voices, whereas Ivona voices
>>> are
>>> downloaded
>>> one
>>> voice at a time.
>>> Blake
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Dectalk [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On
>>> Behalf Of
>>> brandon T via Dectalk
>>> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2014 7:48 PM
>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>> Subject: [DECtalk] a decent speech synthesizer for primary
>>> use
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I have been looking at Sapi 4 and Sapi 5 voices today. Also,
>>> I
>>> have
>>> been looking at Speech Player. I am familiar with a lot of
>>> voices,
>>> including Acapela, Eloquence, DecTalk, Microsoft voices like
>>> Sam, the
>>> LH synthesizer, the Digalo voices, Infovox 230 and 330,
>>> eSpeak,
>>> Neospeech and others. Here is my problem. I have been
>>> majorly
>>> investigating voices for years. I guess the main problem is
>>> that
>>> all
>>> of the voices do something that I don't like. Eloquence
>>> makes
>>> a
>>> clicking sound when it goes really fast. I have trouble
>>> understanding
>>> DecTalk when it goes really fast. The Acapela voices are, in
>>> my
>>> opinion, too hard to use as a primary voice. I have thought
>>> about
>>> Infovox 230 and 330, but I cant do anything legally except
>>> use
>>> the
>>> trial. Also, I can't use Eloquence legally with NVDA. The
>>> Digalo
>>> voices are hard to understand when speaking long amounts of
>>> text
>>> because they stop reading for a few seconds in the middle of
>>> a
>>> sentence. The Microsoft voices are ok, but again, the way
>>> that
>>> they
>>> read is hard for me to get used to. ESpeak sometimes is hard
>>> for
>>> me
>>> because when it goes fast, I hear this sort of interesting
>>> sound
>>> in
>>> the middle of the speech. The LH voices are hard because,
>>> well,
>>> I
>>> unfortunately can't explain it. Do you mind if I please ask,
>>> what
>>> synthesizer do you use primarily, the reasons you use it,
>>> what
>>> is good
>>> about it, and what is not as good please? I am hoping that,
>>> with
>>> input
>>> and suggestions, I can hopefully find something that I will
>>> be
>>> able to
>>> use primarily.
>>>
>>> Thank you very much for your time and I look forward to any
>>> assistance
>>> you are willing to provide
>>>
>>> .Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Brandon Tyson
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