[DECtalk] Dectalk/Text Assist jem
Blake Roberts
beroberts at hughes.net
Wed Feb 1 21:44:38 EST 2012
What Dectalk/Text Assist jem are you referring to, Jake?
Blake
-----Original Message-----
From: dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com
[mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Jake McMahan
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 9:37 PM
To: DECtalk Discussions
Subject: Re: [DECtalk] SubjectLines - Was:Re: DECTAlk 4.4 Public Domain?
-I happen to still have that text assist jem if anyone's
interested-------------------------------------------------
From: "Doris and Chris" <chipmunks at gmx.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 7:11 PM
To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
Subject: Re: [DECtalk] SubjectLines - Was:Re: DECTAlk 4.4 Public Domain?
> Thank you. Much apreciated!
>
> Doris
>
> At 06:41 PM 2/1/2012 -0500, you wrote:
>>Hi,
>>Thanks for the reminder, I sort of forgot about doing that. I will do
>>it in future.
>>It'd be better to post these things as little reminders that only take
>>a few seconds to read, rather than have a repetitive paragraph about
>>it, quote someone as if they didn't know what you were talking about,
>>and ask why it's so difficult. I originally intended it to just be a
>>little side path of discussion. It didn't sound that way, but I just
>>wanted to see where it would go. Now that it's gone far past the
>>original topic, I changed it.
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Doris and Chris"
>><chipmunks at gmx.net>
>>To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 10:31 AM
>>Subject: [DECtalk] SubjectLines - Was:Re: DECTAlk 4.4 Public Domain?
>>
>>
>>>If you introduce a new subject, why is it so difficult to either
>>>start a new message thread or at least change the subject line to
>>>reflect the question asked?
>>>
>>> From what I have read on this list, there is a lot of expertise on
>>> here and I am sure you guys are pros in communicating. could you
>>> please use subject lines that refer to what is actually being
>>> discussed on here? I get a lot of messages from all kinds of lists I
>>> am on and choose what messages to read by the subject lines. I do
>>> not open messages that sound too technical in nature on here, for
>>> example, but would have been intersted in the discussion on
>>> different dectalk versions or what is available when and where.
>>>
>>>For the question below, something like
>>>
>>>"British DECTalk Voice"?
>>>
>>>should be an easy enough subject to formulate
>>>
>>>Thanks much.
>>>
>>>Doris
>>>
>>> h
>>>
>>>At 10:15 AM 2/1/2012 -0500, you wrote:
>>>>Well, the sonic thing wasn't a real big thing at least for me, nor
>>>>anyone else I knew that used it. It sounded strange, and I never did
>>>>like dectalk above rates of400 or so.
>>>>Going off topic here, I wonder if a decent British dectalk was ever
>>>>made?
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Pitermach" <pitermach at gmail.com>
>>>>To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 8:47 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: [DECtalk] DECTAlk 4.4 Public Domain?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Actually yeah. The driver was written by Tyler and I sort of helped
>>>>>him out with it. The first version only did Paul and had sonic to
>>>>>speed the rate up even more. I asked him to add voices, and that's
>>>>>the newer version where sonic had to be removed because it was
>>>>>crashing things apparently.
>>>>>
>>>>>On 2012-02-01 13:52, Raymond Grote wrote:
>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>I was under the impression that both Dectalks were the same
>>>>>>engine, just different versions of the driver, and the newer one
>>>>>>supported voices but the older one didn't?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Pitermach"
>>>>>><pitermach at gmail.com>
>>>>>>To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:43 AM
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [DECtalk] DECTAlk 4.4 Public Domain?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>About the issue with the second dectalk, what happens is almost
>>>>>>>every parameter is actually changed, except the pitch and
>>>>>>>inflection, so after you change voices you just need to manually
>>>>>>>raise the pitch or what ever to set it straight.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On 2012-02-01 03:18, Blake Roberts wrote:
>>>>>>>>Doris,
>>>>>>>>I discovered the other day that two Dectalks for NVDA exist. I
>>>>>>>>was able to try both out after obtaining them and reinstalling
>>>>>>>>NVDA. Both NVDA-specific Dectalks have issues. In the first one,
>>>>>>>>only Paul is available as a voice.
>>>>>>>>To me, that version of Dectalk for NVDA sounds similar to 4.4,
>>>>>>>>though I have no idea what DT version it is based on. The second
>>>>>>>>Dectalk for NVDA lists all 9 voices, but apparently is based on
>>>>>>>>another version of Dectalk.
>>>>>>>>Some
>>>>>>>>of those voices sound, um, different. Example: Kipp sounds like
>>>>>>>>he's going through puberty or something similar. If anyone wants
>>>>>>>>to experiment with/use Dectalk for NVDA, write me off-list. As
>>>>>>>>far as I know, Dectalk for NVDA is not officially supported by
>>>>>>>>the NVDA developers and I don't know who created Dectalks for
>>>>>>>>NVDA.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Regarding Dectalk for Jaws, there is Dectalk Access32. Problem:
>>>>>>>>Freedom
>>>>>>>>Scientific broke Dectalk Access32 functionality in an earlier
>>>>>>>>version of Jaws. Since a Jaws-specific version of Dectalk
>>>>>>>>Access32 is no longer sold or supported by FS, I sort of
>>>>>>>>understand why Freedom Scientific won't fix the problem.
>>>>>>>>Another member of this list found a workaround to make Dectalk
>>>>>>>>Access32 work with Jaws which involves uninstalling Eloquence.
>>>>>>>>Blake
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>From: dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>>>>>[mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Doris
>>>>>>>>and Chris
>>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 8:56 PM
>>>>>>>>To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>>>>>>Subject: [DECtalk] DECTAlk 4.4 Public Domain?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>with all the discussion of singing dectalks, it was a couple of
>>>>>>>>times mentioned that dectalk version 4.4 is in the public
>>>>>>>>domain.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Is there a version of this or can one be made available that
>>>>>>>>works with screenreaders?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I enjoy the dectalk songs I have heard and am amazed at the
>>>>>>>>creativity and finesse and perfection that goes into those songs
>>>>>>>>but this is nothing I have any interst in persuing myself .
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I like dectalk for its clear speech and low footprint on older
>>>>>>>>systems and I would love to have a working version to use with
>>>>>>>>my screenreaders, i.e. jaws and nvda. For nvda especialy it
>>>>>>>>would be nice to have a free dectalk version. nvda comes with
>>>>>>>>espeak, which is free and open source.
>>>>>>>>espeak is
>>>>>>>>certainly usable and I like its responsibeness but dectalk has
>>>>>>>>much clearer speech and would be much easier to understand for
>>>>>>>>those used to more human sounding synths.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>With all the time and energy devoted to making dectalk sing and
>>>>>>>>talking about this, if there is a public domain version of
>>>>>>>>dectalk available, could some of the time and energy be devoted
>>>>>>>>to giving us a free dectalk to just use with screenreaders or a
>>>>>>>>free sapi version?
>>>>>>>>I do not know what would go into this but I'd like to see
>>>>>>>>something that is usable for the broader masses and especialy
>>>>>>>>for nvda users.
>>>>>>>>nvda is coming of age and a decent free synth with it would be
>>>>>>>>such a blessing!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Doris
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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