[DECtalk] SubjectLines - Was:Re: DECTAlk 4.4 Public Domain?

Doris and Chris chipmunks at gmx.net
Wed Feb 1 10:31:27 EST 2012


If you introduce a new subject, why is it so difficult to either 
start a new message thread or at least change the subject line to 
reflect the question asked?

 From what I have read on this list, there is a lot of expertise on 
here and I am sure you guys are pros in communicating. could you 
please use subject lines that refer to what is actually being 
discussed on here? I get a lot of messages from all kinds of lists I 
am on and choose what messages to read by the subject lines. I do not 
open messages that sound too technical in nature on here, for 
example, but would have been intersted in the discussion on different 
dectalk versions or what is available when and where.

For the question below, something like

"British DECTalk Voice"?

should be an easy enough subject to formulate

Thanks much.

Doris

  h

At 10:15 AM 2/1/2012 -0500, you wrote:
>Well, the sonic thing wasn't a real big thing at least for me, nor 
>anyone else I knew that used it. It sounded strange, and I never did 
>like dectalk above rates of400 or so.
>Going off topic here, I wonder if a decent British dectalk was ever made?
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Pitermach" <pitermach at gmail.com>
>To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 8:47 AM
>Subject: Re: [DECtalk] DECTAlk 4.4 Public Domain?
>
>
>>Actually yeah. The driver was written by Tyler and I sort of helped 
>>him out with it. The first version only did Paul and had sonic to 
>>speed the rate up even more. I asked him to add voices, and that's 
>>the newer version where sonic had to be removed because it was 
>>crashing things apparently.
>>
>>On 2012-02-01 13:52, Raymond Grote wrote:
>>>Hi,
>>>I was under the impression that both Dectalks were the same 
>>>engine, just different versions of the driver, and the newer one 
>>>supported voices but the older one didn't?
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Pitermach" <pitermach at gmail.com>
>>>To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:43 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [DECtalk] DECTAlk 4.4 Public Domain?
>>>
>>>
>>>>About the issue with the second dectalk, what happens is almost 
>>>>every parameter is actually changed, except the pitch and 
>>>>inflection, so after you change voices you just need to manually 
>>>>raise the pitch or what ever to set it straight.
>>>>
>>>>On 2012-02-01 03:18, Blake Roberts wrote:
>>>>>Doris,
>>>>>I discovered the other day that two Dectalks for NVDA exist. I was able to
>>>>>try both out after obtaining them and reinstalling NVDA. Both 
>>>>>NVDA-specific
>>>>>Dectalks have issues. In the first one, only Paul is available as a voice.
>>>>>To me, that version of Dectalk for NVDA sounds similar to 4.4, 
>>>>>though I have
>>>>>no idea what DT version it is based on. The second Dectalk for NVDA lists
>>>>>all 9 voices, but apparently is based on another version of Dectalk. Some
>>>>>of those voices sound, um, different. Example: Kipp sounds like he's going
>>>>>through puberty or something similar. If anyone wants to 
>>>>>experiment with/use
>>>>>Dectalk for NVDA, write me off-list. As far as  I know, Dectalk 
>>>>>for NVDA is
>>>>>not officially supported by the NVDA developers and I don't know 
>>>>>who created
>>>>>Dectalks for NVDA.
>>>>>
>>>>>Regarding Dectalk for Jaws, there is Dectalk Access32. Problem: Freedom
>>>>>Scientific broke Dectalk Access32 functionality in an earlier version of
>>>>>Jaws. Since a Jaws-specific version of Dectalk Access32 is no 
>>>>>longer sold or
>>>>>supported by FS, I sort of understand why  Freedom Scientific 
>>>>>won't fix the
>>>>>problem. Another member of this list found a workaround to make Dectalk
>>>>>Access32 work with Jaws which involves uninstalling Eloquence.
>>>>>Blake
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>>[mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris
>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 8:56 PM
>>>>>To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>>>Subject: [DECtalk] DECTAlk 4.4 Public Domain?
>>>>>
>>>>>with all the discussion of singing dectalks, it was a couple of times
>>>>>mentioned that dectalk version 4.4 is in the public domain.
>>>>>
>>>>>Is there a version of this or can one be made available that works with
>>>>>screenreaders?
>>>>>
>>>>>I enjoy the dectalk songs I have heard and am amazed at the creativity and
>>>>>finesse and perfection that goes into those songs but this is 
>>>>>nothing I have
>>>>>any interst in persuing myself .
>>>>>
>>>>>I like dectalk for its clear speech and low footprint on older 
>>>>>systems and I
>>>>>would love to have a working version to use with my 
>>>>>screenreaders, i.e. jaws
>>>>>and nvda. For nvda especialy it would be nice to have a free dectalk
>>>>>version. nvda comes with espeak, which is free and open source. espeak is
>>>>>certainly usable and I like its responsibeness but dectalk has 
>>>>>much clearer
>>>>>speech and would be much easier to understand for those used to more human
>>>>>sounding synths.
>>>>>
>>>>>With all the time and energy devoted to making dectalk sing and talking
>>>>>about this, if there is a public domain version of dectalk 
>>>>>available, could
>>>>>some of the time and energy be devoted to giving us a free dectalk to just
>>>>>use with screenreaders or a free sapi version?
>>>>>I do not know what would go into this but I'd like to see 
>>>>>something that is
>>>>>usable for the broader masses and especialy for nvda users.
>>>>>nvda is coming of age and a decent free synth with it would be such a
>>>>>blessing!
>>>>>
>>>>>Doris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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