[DECtalk] OT: Another Singing Synth!

[Raymond Grote]

Well, by substitute I meant something like Vocal Writer. I love the sound of 
that synth and I thought Syng would be able to sound closer to that than DT. 
And in some ways it does. I'll post some stuff in a bit. Maybe i'll even 
recreate some synth classics, like Penny Lane and or Daisy Bell. Every 
singing synth like this seems to have a demo for one or both of those.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alex H." <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: [DECtalk] OT: Another Singing Synth!


> No, well I didn't think it was a DT substitute anyway. Nothing can
> replace that beautiful synth! Yes, if you can post an MP3 of it, even
> though it's not perfect, please do. I'm interested to hear this now!
> :)
> thanks,
> Alex
>
> On 11/22/11, Raymond Grote <musicalman1 at comcast.net> wrote:
>> Well, this thing doesn't look like it's all I thought it would be. It's
>> certainly different from Dectalk, but it sounds rather strange. I made a
>> file of the ABCs, and even after spending around two hours on it, I 
>> could've
>> done much better with Dectalk. So, I think Syng is more made for a 
>> singing
>> robot sound effect, not for actually sounding like a person. You can
>> understand the words, but they won't sound natural. I'd compare it to a
>> Braille N speak type of synth sound, or an 80s synthesizer.
>> It definitely has its place, but it is not a Dectalk substitute! I wasn't
>> going to post any mp3s of it since  it didn't work out as I had expected,
>> however I am rethinking that decision and I might post some when I have 
>> more
>> made. I can't find any audio demos of it from anyone else, at least in my
>> brief search, so maybe i'm not very good at it yet.
>> I'm pretty certain i'll post some demos for you to here, but still let me
>> know anyways if you want them or not. If enough people say no I won't
>> bother, but if people want to hear, which I expect many do, then I will.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Alex H." <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 11:17 AM
>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] OT: Another Singing Synth!
>>
>>
>>> Nice! Sounds pretty cool. Yeah, I'm not a MIDI expert by any means, so
>>> it's over my head right there. lol
>>> thanks for posting though, sounds very cool.
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
>>> On 11/22/11, Raymond Grote <musicalman1 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Just thought I'd inform you guys about a singing synthesizer This isn't
>>>> the
>>>> best list to put it on since it doesn't have much to do with Dectalk, 
>>>> but
>>>>
>>>> it
>>>> has to do with singing synths. If you're a musician and are on any midi
>>>> and
>>>> audio mailing lists or forums, you might want to post it there because 
>>>> it
>>>> might gain interest. Maybe some already use it.
>>>> So, what is it? It's called Syng, and it is a vst plugin.
>>>> Here's a little bit about it. You control it with midi, so if you're 
>>>> not
>>>> well rehearsed with that, I would recommend getting somewhat familiar 
>>>> on
>>>> that if you want to go through the trouble. On channel 1 you put the
>>>> notes
>>>> you want to sing, easy enough. The vocal range is very wide, in fact i
>>>> don't
>>>> see a limit yet, but I'd obviously stick to the middle, it sounds much
>>>> better there. On channel 2 you put the phonemes. It's sort of like
>>>> playing a
>>>> drum set, where every note is a different drum sound, in syng there are
>>>> forty-nine notes given to the forty-nine phonemes.
>>>> For anyone who doesn't understand any of that, please do not torture
>>>> yourself trying this. I don't want to be held responsible for your
>>>> frustration.
>>>> To keep from boring casual listers, I'll keep the rest of this brief.
>>>> It's a
>>>> freeby, which means you have to pay for it. Zero buks, in fact. Pretty
>>>> cheep, eh?
>>>> The manual, which is in pdf format, is readable, but there are a few
>>>> tables,
>>>> like those that describe the midi stuff, which are pretty confusing. 
>>>> Not
>>>> only because the content is confusing but because of the layout. If it
>>>> gains
>>>> enough interest I'll consider converting it to text and making it easer
>>>> to
>>>> read, and maybe i'll write some stuff in myself if i'm brave enough.
>>>> As for how it sounds? The phonemes are in UK English, according to the
>>>> manual, so it will probably sound British, but to me it sounds
>>>> australian,
>>>> with the little i've played with it. I haven't ventured to look for 
>>>> demos
>>>>
>>>> of
>>>> it yet since I'm still learning it, and I don't want to get 
>>>> disappointed
>>>> with how bad it really is, or here how bad I am. I'm working on some
>>>> productions of my own, and if it's half decent, I'll make some demos of
>>>> my
>>>> own and give links to other demos if I find any. So with that said, the
>>>> link
>>>> to download it is:
>>>> http://www.xoxos.net/vst/vst.html
>>>> Click on the link that says "Download Syng2"
>>>> If you have any specific questions about how to do something, or what
>>>> something technical means, I'd recommend asking off list, although it
>>>> really
>>>> doesn't matter to me. It's more for the mods, owners, and other listers
>>>> who
>>>> aren't interested.
>>>> Enjoy!
>>>>
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