[DECtalk] DECtalk Found a workaround for getting DECTalkAccess32 working w/ JFW

[Pitermach]

Well, there aren't that many issues, so  most of the sapi drivers around are very stable these days. This would include window-eyes, NVDA, and dolphin's SuperNova. Ditto for the tts to mp3 apps like text aloud and d-speech. 
In my experience JAWS's sapi driver is very unstable and crashes for me after ruffly a minute of usage with a lightweight synth. And it's not even getting as much responsiveness as it could, though that's something you don't need to be worried about - it's not your problem Smile.
Also, after you release the windows build, do you thinkl it would be possible to develop dectalk for mac? Apple, like microsoft has a sapi equivllent on mac for developping voices, which  amung other things can work with VoiceOver, the screen reader built into MacOSX.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: FRIDO ORDEMANN 
  To: DECtalk Discussions 
  Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 1:55 PM
  Subject: Re: [DECtalk] DECtalk Found a workaround for getting DECTalkAccess32 working w/ JFW


  One issue I have become concerned about is possible difficulties that users of DECtalk will encounter when they have certain screen readers installed. If someone can summarize the group's experience with changing synthesizers or changing screen readers, I'd appreciate knowing what sorts of problems we're up against as we test out classic SAPI DECtalk. I don't want to release something that causes people problems when they try to install DECtalk but already have some other voices installed.
  corine


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  From: Alex H. <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
  To: DECtalk Discussions <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
  Sent: Sun, May 22, 2011 12:46:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [DECtalk] DECtalk Found a workaround for getting DECTalk Access32 working w/ JFW

  Hi Michael,

  Funny you mention that, because when JAWS 11 came out, people started
  complaining to FS and they didn't say anything about DECTalk being not
  supported back then, only that they couldn't reproduce the problem
  (yeah right). Sounds like they're becoming lazy over there, I mean
  it's probably a five line fix in some file or other and they just
  don't care.

  The real question is if they'll keep the existing DT Access32 files
  for future versions and just not provide any tech support for the
  synth? That's sort of a band-aid way of doing it, but that's what
  they'll probably do knowing FS.

  Fortunately if this doesn't work, we should have a classic SAPI
  version of DECTalk that will be functional with any screen reader that
  can use SAPI synths, so I'm not too worried.

  Alex

  On 5/22/11, Michael Hansen <amtk62 at gmail.com> wrote:
  > I agree 100%.
  >
  > I talked to FS support last week, and they told me that Access 32 was
  > not supported after JAWS 10.  So they know about the problems and
  > apparently do not want to fix them.  Either that or they can't fix
  > them.
  >
  > On 5/21/11, Brandon Misch <bmisch2002 at gmail.com> wrote:
  >> would be better if fs fixed it so you wouldn't have to change the name of
  >> eloquence.
  >>
  >> On May 21, 2011, at 7:36 PM, Michael Hansen wrote:
  >>
  >>> Wow, Alex!  This is awesome!  Great find!
  >>>
  >>> Michael
  >>>
  >>> On 5/20/11, Alex H. <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com> wrote:
  >>>> I've found a workaround to get DECTalk Access32 working with JFW.
  >>>>
  >>>> WARNING WARNING WARNING: This isn't complicated, but it could leave
  >>>> you with no speech if you're not careful and set up another voice
  >>>> profile or don't have NVDA to fall back on.
  >>>>
  >>>> 1. You should really do this with an older version of JAWS if you have
  >>>> any installed, or use NVDA or System Access, or even narrator to do
  >>>> these steps to avoid conflicts.
  >>>>
  >>>> 2. Assuming you've already tried to have Access32 set up as a voice
  >>>> profile, just select that using insert-ctrl-s, and then the profile
  >>>> name for DECTalk access32.
  >>>>
  >>>> 3. Open the start menu, Programs or All programs, Jaws 10/11/12,
  >>>> Explore Program Files.
  >>>>
  >>>> 4. Navigate to the Drivers\speech\eloq subdirectory.
  >>>>
  >>>> 5. Rename eloq.jls to something else like "evil_eloq.jls"
  >>>> Alternatively, you can simply move the file to another location.
  >>>>
  >>>> 6. Reboot JAWS. You should now have DT access32 speech! Worked for me.
  >>>>
  >>>> Note: I am not responsible for any outcome of this, use at your own
  >>>> risk. However, if something doesn't work you can always just rename
  >>>> the file back to eloq.jls and things are good again.
  >>>>
  >>>> I haven't tested to see if the Eloquence voice profile is saved if you
  >>>> rename it back, but I don't use eloquence anyway, so...
  >>>>
  >>>> Enjoy and good luck!
  >>>>
  >>>> Alex
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