[DECtalk] Access 32 Legality Questions

Wed May 11 20:46:52 EDT 2011

i know can't wait to get started on this project. 

On May 11, 2011, at 8:01 PM, Alex H. wrote:

> Agreed, it'll be awesome.
> 
> Alex
> 
> On 5/11/11, Brandon Misch <bmisch2002 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> it's going to be good to test the beta versions.
>> 
>> On May 11, 2011, at 12:48 PM, Corine Bickley wrote:
>> 
>>> Great - I'll accumulate the questions that I see for a few weeks as we
>>> test the voices, and I'll get as many answers as Peter and Martha can
>>> supply, and then I'll ask the listserv to fill in more answers based
>>> on your extensive use and experience with various synthesizers. You
>>> have the experience to be the best beta testers - trying the new SAPI
>>> DECtalk in all the various configurations that you use, ones that we
>>> may not think of, and we certainly don't own all those different
>>> machines and other synthesizers and screen readers.
>>> 
>>> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Alex H. <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi Corine,
>>>> 
>>>> A list of FAQs would be a really helpful resource I think. This would
>>>> help ensure that we get what we want and everybody is happy.
>>>> 
>>>> Alex
>>>> 
>>>> On 5/11/11, Corine Bickley <corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu> wrote:
>>>>> Your questions and experiences concerning using various synthesizers
>>>>> are a great resource for us all. I think it would be useful if Enable
>>>>> starts a FAQ list based on your insights. What do you all think? Would
>>>>> that be ok? Later this summer, I'll review the questions and formulate
>>>>> a list and then post it and ask you all to supply answers based on
>>>>> your experience. Let me know if you think this would be useful.
>>>>> corine
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Brent Harding <bharding at doorpi.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Not only to mention, if you switch your synth to something like this
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> plain doesn't work, one has no speech to switch it back.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Brandon Misch" <bmisch2002 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 9:03 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Access 32 Legality Questions
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> i'm sure there are all kinds of versions of that synth. one version
>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>> coppying files and stuff like that.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On May 10, 2011, at 9:02 PM, Blake Roberts wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I know that the version of Dectalk Access32 on Freedom Scientific's
>>>>>>>> site
>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>> designed for Jaws 3 or 4. This was back in the days of Jaws
>>>>>>>> authorization
>>>>>>>> diskettes.  I wonder if FS's copy of Dectalk Access32 will install
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>> with a modern version of Jaws.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> In the past, I've tried using a couple different versions of Dectalk
>>>>>>>> Access32 that I got from various sources. With one version, I could
>>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>>> get past "please insert authorization disk to continue". The other
>>>>>>>> (stand-alone) version simply would not talk when I tried using it
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> Jaws
>>>>>>>> 11.
>>>>>>>> Blake
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>>>>> [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 8:40 PM
>>>>>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Access 32 Legality Questions
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> one thing to note is the version of access 32 for jaws is still on
>>>>>>>> fs's
>>>>>>>> site
>>>>>>>> and may still work. i don't know if it does though. that uses dectalk
>>>>>>>> 4.41.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On May 10, 2011, at 6:57 PM, Jayson Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, as far as I know there is no way to make a copy of
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> Access32 protected disk. Certain versions of Jaws used a protection
>>>>>>>>> system called Quella. Those disks could be copied if you knew what
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> were doing.
>>>>>>>>> However, the only copy of Access32 I ever saw used a protection
>>>>>>>>> product called Everlock. I never found any way to make a faithful
>>>>>>>>> copy
>>>>>>>>> of an Everlock disk.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> As for getting your authorization off the old laptop, have you
>>>>>>>>> checked
>>>>>>>>> that the floppy is not write protected? If so, the floppy could be
>>>>>>>>> bad, in which case that copy is no good any more. Please note, just
>>>>>>>>> copying the actual authorization files from the old hard drive to
>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>> on any other computer will *not* work. If you can figure out a way
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> get the uninstall process to complete successfully, there may be a
>>>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>>> for you to, shall we say, regain your two lost authorizations. This
>>>>>>>>> would need to be done in DOS, since I think most if not all Everlock
>>>>>>>>> disks I saw included DOS tools as well as Windows ones. There's a
>>>>>>>>> program I have called Unlimited Installer. The way it works is, it
>>>>>>>>> diverts all hard drive writes to a RAM buffer. So you have the
>>>>>>>>> authorization installed, run the program, then uninstall the
>>>>>>>>> authorization. Now you reboot. Since the hard drive never got
>>>>>>>>> written,
>>>>>>>>> the authorization is still there, as well as on the floppy. But none
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> that will be worth a hill of beans if you can't get the uninstall to
>>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>>> Jayson
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Michael Hansen" <amtk62 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 6:00 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [DECtalk] Access 32 Legality Questions
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I have a couple questions regarding legal use of Access 32:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Is it legal to install Access 32 from a Kurzweil 1000 CD without an
>>>>>>>>>> authorization disc, since it pretty much installs regardless of
>>>>>>>>>> whether there is one present or not?  I have access to a Kurzweil
>>>>>>>>>> disc from school (that kind of software is distributed to students
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> free) but there is no DECtalk authorization disc.  DECtalk Access
>>>>>>>>>> 32
>>>>>>>>>> is there on the disc, and it installs regardless of whether there
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> an authorization disc or not.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Also, I have a copy of Access 32 from GW Micro that my parents
>>>>>>>>>> obtained in 2002.  I have one authorization left (the others were
>>>>>>>>>> lost due to computer crashes) and it is on an old HP laptop.  For
>>>>>>>>>> some reason, when I go to transfer the data back to the copy
>>>>>>>>>> protection disc, it will not work.  I haven't tried it in several
>>>>>>>>>> months, but I recall a write error of some kind.  Assuming I am
>>>>>>>>>> unable to find a way to get that copy protection off that laptop,
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> there a legal way I can get around the authorization since I *do*
>>>>>>>>>> own
>>>>>>>>>> the product?  I've tried contacting GW Micro, and they were no
>>>>>>>>>> help.
>>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Michael
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