[DECtalk] Access 32 Legality Questions

Brandon Misch bmisch2002 at gmail.com
Wed May 11 19:14:54 EDT 2011


it's going to be good to test the beta versions. 

On May 11, 2011, at 12:48 PM, Corine Bickley wrote:

> Great - I'll accumulate the questions that I see for a few weeks as we
> test the voices, and I'll get as many answers as Peter and Martha can
> supply, and then I'll ask the listserv to fill in more answers based
> on your extensive use and experience with various synthesizers. You
> have the experience to be the best beta testers - trying the new SAPI
> DECtalk in all the various configurations that you use, ones that we
> may not think of, and we certainly don't own all those different
> machines and other synthesizers and screen readers.
> 
> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Alex H. <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Corine,
>> 
>> A list of FAQs would be a really helpful resource I think. This would
>> help ensure that we get what we want and everybody is happy.
>> 
>> Alex
>> 
>> On 5/11/11, Corine Bickley <corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu> wrote:
>>> Your questions and experiences concerning using various synthesizers
>>> are a great resource for us all. I think it would be useful if Enable
>>> starts a FAQ list based on your insights. What do you all think? Would
>>> that be ok? Later this summer, I'll review the questions and formulate
>>> a list and then post it and ask you all to supply answers based on
>>> your experience. Let me know if you think this would be useful.
>>> corine
>>> 
>>> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Brent Harding <bharding at doorpi.net> wrote:
>>>> Not only to mention, if you switch your synth to something like this and
>>>> it
>>>> plain doesn't work, one has no speech to switch it back.
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Brandon Misch" <bmisch2002 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 9:03 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Access 32 Legality Questions
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> i'm sure there are all kinds of versions of that synth. one version had
>>>>> me
>>>>> coppying files and stuff like that.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On May 10, 2011, at 9:02 PM, Blake Roberts wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I know that the version of Dectalk Access32 on Freedom Scientific's site
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> designed for Jaws 3 or 4. This was back in the days of Jaws
>>>>>> authorization
>>>>>> diskettes.  I wonder if FS's copy of Dectalk Access32 will install for
>>>>>> use
>>>>>> with a modern version of Jaws.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In the past, I've tried using a couple different versions of Dectalk
>>>>>> Access32 that I got from various sources. With one version, I could
>>>>>> never
>>>>>> get past "please insert authorization disk to continue". The other
>>>>>> (stand-alone) version simply would not talk when I tried using it with
>>>>>> Jaws
>>>>>> 11.
>>>>>> Blake
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>>> [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 8:40 PM
>>>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Access 32 Legality Questions
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> one thing to note is the version of access 32 for jaws is still on fs's
>>>>>> site
>>>>>> and may still work. i don't know if it does though. that uses dectalk
>>>>>> 4.41.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 10, 2011, at 6:57 PM, Jayson Smith wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Unfortunately, as far as I know there is no way to make a copy of the
>>>>>>> Access32 protected disk. Certain versions of Jaws used a protection
>>>>>>> system called Quella. Those disks could be copied if you knew what you
>>>>>> were doing.
>>>>>>> However, the only copy of Access32 I ever saw used a protection
>>>>>>> product called Everlock. I never found any way to make a faithful copy
>>>>>>> of an Everlock disk.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As for getting your authorization off the old laptop, have you checked
>>>>>>> that the floppy is not write protected? If so, the floppy could be
>>>>>>> bad, in which case that copy is no good any more. Please note, just
>>>>>>> copying the actual authorization files from the old hard drive to one
>>>>>>> on any other computer will *not* work. If you can figure out a way to
>>>>>>> get the uninstall process to complete successfully, there may be a way
>>>>>>> for you to, shall we say, regain your two lost authorizations. This
>>>>>>> would need to be done in DOS, since I think most if not all Everlock
>>>>>>> disks I saw included DOS tools as well as Windows ones. There's a
>>>>>>> program I have called Unlimited Installer. The way it works is, it
>>>>>>> diverts all hard drive writes to a RAM buffer. So you have the
>>>>>>> authorization installed, run the program, then uninstall the
>>>>>>> authorization. Now you reboot. Since the hard drive never got written,
>>>>>>> the authorization is still there, as well as on the floppy. But none of
>>>>>> that will be worth a hill of beans if you can't get the uninstall to
>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>> Jayson
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Michael Hansen" <amtk62 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 6:00 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [DECtalk] Access 32 Legality Questions
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have a couple questions regarding legal use of Access 32:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Is it legal to install Access 32 from a Kurzweil 1000 CD without an
>>>>>>>> authorization disc, since it pretty much installs regardless of
>>>>>>>> whether there is one present or not?  I have access to a Kurzweil
>>>>>>>> disc from school (that kind of software is distributed to students
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> free) but there is no DECtalk authorization disc.  DECtalk Access 32
>>>>>>>> is there on the disc, and it installs regardless of whether there is
>>>>>>>> an authorization disc or not.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Also, I have a copy of Access 32 from GW Micro that my parents
>>>>>>>> obtained in 2002.  I have one authorization left (the others were
>>>>>>>> lost due to computer crashes) and it is on an old HP laptop.  For
>>>>>>>> some reason, when I go to transfer the data back to the copy
>>>>>>>> protection disc, it will not work.  I haven't tried it in several
>>>>>>>> months, but I recall a write error of some kind.  Assuming I am
>>>>>>>> unable to find a way to get that copy protection off that laptop, is
>>>>>>>> there a legal way I can get around the authorization since I *do* own
>>>>>>>> the product?  I've tried contacting GW Micro, and they were no help.
>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Michael
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