[DECtalk] Access 32 On Windows 7

Raymond Grote musicalman1 at comcast.net
Mon May 9 17:42:08 EDT 2011 

Did Fonix have Dectalk before Force did? That was my understanding, but I'm 
starting to think I am wrong.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alex H." <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Access 32 On Windows 7


>I believe Force took over DT in early 2000 and released 4.61. They
> claim in the 4.61 documentation that it's the first release of DT in
> almost four years.
>
> Alex
>
> On 5/9/11, Alex H. <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com> wrote:
>> He'd probably be so frustrated that he'd go on this list and develop
>> KlattTalk from scratch and be a very active member in helping port
>> this awesome synth to as many platforms as humanly possible. DECTalk
>> on the iPhone anyone?
>>
>> Fonix and Force made some big no-nos in my opinion but they do make
>> for some funny skits! :D
>> Alex
>>
>> On 5/9/11, Raymond Grote <musicalman1 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> Well,, to be fair, Force destroyed it to begin with. I heard that the
>>> original Dectalk code was lost so Fonix had to work with what Force gave
>>> them or something. But still. I wonder what Dennis Klatt would say or do
>>> if
>>> he was around to see that. Maybe I don't want to know.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Alex H." <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 4:48 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Access 32 On Windows 7
>>>
>>>
>>>> Well, FonixTalk was a pretty big insult to DECTalk; I'm glad they at
>>>> least renamed it before slaughtering it.  I bet I'd like FonixTalk if
>>>> I hadn't heard the awesomeness of DECTAlk, but I did, so FTalk is
>>>> pretty lame compared to it.
>>>>
>>>> Alex
>>>>
>>>> On 5/9/11, Raymond Grote <musicalman1 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>> Dont bother with support unless you need to confirm  something you
>>>>> already
>>>>> expected. Some of the people there are very helpful but some of them,
>>>>> as
>>>>> you
>>>>> say, are just awful.
>>>>> I wish Fonix would get involved. I don't see how they can let Dectalk
>>>>> just
>>>>> die out. It's old, yes, but if we have to do something that Fonix 
>>>>> isn't
>>>>> doing, then something is not quite right.
>>>>> What is Fonix doing now anyway? Maybe they are working on something
>>>>> else
>>>>> that will make as big of a mark on speech synthesis?
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Alex H." <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 12:39 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Access 32 On Windows 7
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmm. Sounds like FS is being more jerky than before. I tried with 
>>>>>> JAWS
>>>>>> 11 back in the day, and it worked just fine considering the
>>>>>> circumstances. I mean, nobody should have to uninstall a synth to get
>>>>>> another one working. I wish I could be more help, but I've not used
>>>>>> JAWS in forever (except an old Windows 2000 machine that has JAWS 8).
>>>>>> I guess the only thing to do is bug FS to death about it until they
>>>>>> actually do something. Oh, and that's not an easy task given my past
>>>>>> experiences with a PAC Mate. Ever been told how to propperly write
>>>>>> Braille by an FS official? Pretty over the line.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/9/11, Michael Hansen <amtk62 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> When I tried starting JAWS after uninstalling Eloquence with the
>>>>>>> latest DECtalk drivers installed, I got an error saying shared
>>>>>>> components were missing.  Am I not doing something correctly?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/9/11, Brandon Misch <bmisch2002 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> with the original release of jaws 10 you don't need to do that 
>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> worked then. however, if it's a later version you probably need to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On May 9, 2011, at 7:55 AM, Michael Hansen wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I tried uninstalling Eloquence, with the JAWS 12 Access 32 driver
>>>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>>>> in, and I am still getting the shared components error.  I'll
>>>>>>>>> perhaps
>>>>>>>>> try this with JAWS 10 and see what happens.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 5/9/11, Michael Hansen <amtk62 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for that, Brandon...I didn't try going back to the JAWS 12
>>>>>>>>>> Access 32 driver.  I'll try that and let you guys know.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/9/11, Brandon Misch <bmisch2002 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> well, before you did that did you replace the access 32 jaws
>>>>>>>>>>> driver
>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>> the one you got out of jaws 10 still there? think you have to go
>>>>>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> driver that is in with jaws 12 to get this to work. me
>>>>>>>>>>> personally,
>>>>>>>>>>> i
>>>>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>>>>> glad
>>>>>>>>>>> i have a dectalk u s b otherwise, i would still be sending fs
>>>>>>>>>>> emails
>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>> broken access 32 support.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On May 9, 2011, at 1:25 AM, Michael Hansen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I got an error from JAWS 12 when I tried starting JAWS
>>>>>>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>>>>>> uninstalling Eloquence.  What version did you try this with, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>>>>>>> you have this problem?  Thanks, Michael
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/8/11, Michael Hansen <amtk62 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Alex!  I'll give that a shot!  If I have trouble, I'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reinstall JAWS--I also have NVDA.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/8/11, Alex H. <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try uninstalling Eloquence. It's a dirty rotten hack, but it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, it's perminent, so DT only gets used.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I did this when I still used JAWS, there was some wierd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> parameter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> values and I had to play with the rate and pitch sliders for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> snap back into action.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HTH,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/7/11, Michael Hansen <amtk62 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just recently obtained a copy of DECtalk Access 32 from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> school.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the version of DECtalk distributed with Kurzweil
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1000.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there any way of making it work with JAWS on Windows 7?  The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> program
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> runs--it shows as running in task manager--but it is still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with JAWS.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael
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