[DECtalk] something i heard

Raymond Grote musicalman1 at comcast.net
Mon May 9 16:27:20 EDT 2011


Yes. A little more cooperation and communication from everyone would really 
help I think. But just because we have something now doesn't mean you guys 
should be defeated. This Sapi thing is just a little appetizer with its fair 
share of bugs as well. You guys still have a mission to accomplish.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alex H." <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [DECtalk] something i heard


> Hi,
>
> I've gotten DT 4.4 to work on Windows 7. Basically it just needs to be
> run in compatibility mode for Win 98. Just go to properties for the
> speak.exe program and go to compatibility and tick 'run this program
> in compatibility mode for:' and then choose Windows 98. Worked for me.
> I don't know why the file association isn't working with DT 4.4 but it
> could be a number of things.
>
> As for why we would want/need a SAPI version of DECTalk from Enable?
> There's a version of SAPI DT floating around on the list that sounds
> like 4.6.4 or something, and it is certainly welcomed among the DT
> users, but it has a bit of a lag and isn't classic DECTalk (e.g., 4.3
> or 4.2cd, not 4.6x as they don't sound like classic DECTAlk such as
> found in the DT Express etc). Basically, we want an old version of
> DECTalk in a SAPI package that is responsive. That would be a dream
> come true for most of us, and probably bring back some memories of
> using DECTalk classic back in the days of the Express and PCI.
> Basically, it would be honoring Dennis Klatt's work and giving the
> DECTalk users of the world reason for celebration.
>
> A possible issue I see looming in the future though is, how to get
> this vintage dated DECTalk version running on the latest systems, let
> alone get the code itself? Fonix hasn't really been any help, and
> they'll do anything for a buck, and it's not fair to Enable to throw
> money in a hole, so to speak. This would have to be carefully planned.
> Another thing, if this old version of DECTalk were to become a
> SAPI/new Speak Window, the testers of the software should be given
> respect this time around. If something's wrong, let's not smother it
> this time.
>
> Finally, I hope something happens with this, but finding this other
> SAPI version of DT was pretty cool. It'll certainly work for the time
> being.
>
> Alex
>
> On 5/9/11, johnnybrl at gmail.com <johnnybrl at gmail.com> wrote:
>> hi, will dectalk 4.3 still run on windows 7?
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: Dectalk at aol.com
>>   To: dectalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>   Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 4:34 AM
>>   Subject: Re: [DECtalk] something i heard
>>
>>
>>   it needs the commands.  Let me emplane why.  Most of you on this list 
>> just
>> make Dectalk sing for fun.  People who can't talk, have no other way of
>> singing, Dectalk is the only way they have to sing.  I'm one of them, but
>> only one of many.  Today I'm trying to finish "THE HALLELUJAH CHORUS" in 
>> 4
>> part harmony so 4 people with Dectalk can all sing together.  I wanted 
>> more
>> parts but I can't find a version of sheet music that has more than 4 
>> parts.
>>
>>   In any event, there is a serious problem coming up.  I have no idea 
>> why,
>> but the 4.40 speak window will not install in the latest update of 
>> Windows
>> 7, the en files will not associate with the speak window.  I now have 3
>> known computers that the speak window will not run on.
>>
>>   Blake and I have posted about this several times but it keeps getting
>> ignored.  Guys, if we don't solve this problem, and if any of you ever
>> switch computers, you might not be able to run Dectalk.
>>
>>
>>   SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>
>>   In a message dated 5/8/2011 11:58:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> bmisch2002 at gmail.com writes:
>>     thanks both of you for this project. maybe when you guys get the code
>> compiled wright, or the wright code at all, you can make a sapi version 
>> of
>> dectalk that is better than the stuff already put out there. maybe a sapi
>> dectalk with not just voices but commands and everything.
>>
>>     On May 8, 2011, at 12:46 PM, Blake Roberts wrote:
>>
>>     > Ed,
>>     > Thanks for the clarification and your dedication to, like Corine, 
>> not
>> give
>>     > up on Dectalk.
>>     > Blake
>>     >
>>     > -----Original Message-----
>>     > From: dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com
>>     > [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of ebruckert
>> Bruckert
>>     > Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 12:42 PM
>>     > To: DECtalk Discussions
>>     > Subject: Re: [DECtalk] something i heard
>>     >
>>     > I'm sorry I have to set the record straight. I am the one that
>> supplied
>>     > Kareem with code and there was confusion because they hadn't been
>> compiled
>>     > in a while and I knew they needed fixing and I don't think that was
>> truly
>>     > understood and no I didn't get a single penny. Neither am I giving 
>> up
>> I need
>>     > a decent DECtalk as well this went down the rat hole for various
>> reasons and
>>     > I'm not giving up I want one I don't want to play a blame game
>> however. But
>>     > nobody intentionally did anything wrong period.
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Michael Hansen <amtk62 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >   So basicly, if I understand this right, someone in essence took
>>     >   advantage of Corine's lack of DECtalk knowledge and sold her a 
>> code
>>     > to
>>     >   Fonix Talk--or something very nearly like it--and said it was 
>> good?
>>     >   How aweful.
>>     >
>>     >   It's all starting to make sense now.  Corine, I for one am very
>>     > sorry
>>     >   for contributing to your company's public humiliation on this
>>     > mailing
>>     >   list.  It appears Fonix is the one to blame, and if they really 
>> did
>>     >   screw you guys over (I know you can never say that publicly) then
>>     > that
>>     >   is a real shame.  Thank you for trying, and thank you for
>>     > withholding
>>     >   this release.
>>     >
>>     >   Best,
>>     >   Michael Hansen
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >   On 5/8/11, Dectalk at aol.com <Dectalk at aol.com> wrote:
>>     >   > Yes but guys, can we be sensitive here for  Corine?  She cares 
>> so
>>     > much that
>>     >   > she put a lot of money into this.  She  was sold a bad code and
>>     > has no way
>>     >   > to get a refund.  This is both happy and  sad news.  We should 
>> all
>>     > deeply
>>     >   > thank her for trying.
>>     >   >
>>     >   >
>>     >   > SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>     >   >
>>     >   >
>>     >   > In a message dated 5/8/2011 11:37:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight 
>> Time,
>>     >   > beroberts at hughes.net writes:
>>     >   >
>>     >   > Alex did  a fantastic job creating the Dectalk vs. FonixTalk 
>> file
>>     > that
>>     >   > Jayson
>>     >   > shared.  Excellent job on production, Alex.
>>     >   > I agree with Jayson about Dectalk 86  sounding more like 
>> FonixTalk
>>     > than
>>     >   > Dectalk.  It is certainly good news  that Enable wil not be
>>     > marketing
>>     >   > Dectalk
>>     >   > 86.
>>     >   > Blake
>>     >   > -----Original  Message-----
>>     >   > From:  dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com
>>     >   > [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com]  On Behalf Of Jayson
>>     > Smith
>>     >   > Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 11:05 AM
>>     >   > To:  DECtalk Discussions
>>     >   > Subject: Re: [DECtalk] something i heard
>>     >   >
>>     >   > I have  to sort of agree with this, although Corine has stated
>>     > that  the
>>     >   > so-nicknamed DECtalk 86 doesn't use FonixTalk. To hear a sample 
>> of
>>     > the  real
>>     >   > FonixTalk, listen to the following  file.
>>     >   > http://www.q-audio.net/d/18754
>>     >   > I think DECtalk 86 sounds more like  FonixTalk than it does any
>>     > version of
>>     >   > DECtalk including 4.64 or  5.0.
>>     >   > Jayson
>>     >   >
>>     >   > ----- Original Message -----
>>     >   > From: "Brandon Misch"  <bmisch2002 at gmail.com>
>>     >   > To: "DECtalk Discussions"  <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>     >   > Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 7:26  PM
>>     >   > Subject: [DECtalk] something i heard
>>     >   >
>>     >   >
>>     >   >> Hey guys i let  someone hear a demo of the speak window for 
>> the
>>     > sapi
>>     >   >> dectalk that  enable is selling and that person said that this 
>> is
>>     > based
>>     >   > on
>>     >   >> fonix  talk. don't know if anyone came up with that yet.
>>     >   >>
>>     >   >>
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