[DECtalk] Any news?

Brandon Misch bmisch2002 at gmail.com
Thu May 5 22:58:34 EDT 2011


lol 

On May 5, 2011, at 10:16 PM, Alex H. wrote:

> Lol! Tried that, yep, it's a E-flat then drops to a C with a little sigh.
> 
> It's tired of sounding like crap so it sighs lol
> 
> Alex
> 
> On 5/5/11, Raymond Grote <musicalman1 at comcast.net> wrote:
>> And, I was able to make rather amusing sounds by putting one note in for
>> singing. I put in a low c, and instead of being a low c, it was like a sigh
>> of satisfaction. It started at an e, went down to a d, then got breathy and
>> ended. I can clarify if needed. Maybe post a sample and the code I used. But
>> it was funny.
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Alex H." <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 9:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>> 
>> 
>>> I was also under the impression that the testers were supposed to give
>>> feedback about the project and so on, but when they did, they got
>>> nothing but snide remarks that it's the same, "you don't know what
>>> you're talking about," etc. That sort of thing is just not cool,
>>> seeing as you're supposed to sell this! I hope nobody buys this just
>>> to proove the point that this is just not even close to being ready
>>> for any type of release!
>>> 
>>> But I suppose, at this rate we're just screaming at the wind and
>>> nothing will change.
>>> 
>>> Alex
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 5/5/11, Raymond Grote <musicalman1 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> I'm pretty sure it will. The least we can do is not buy it and discourage
>>>> others from using it, unless they decide to make a change. I am hoping
>>>> they
>>>> will, but I'm very sure they won't.
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>  From: Brandon Misch
>>>>  To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>>  Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 9:22 PM
>>>>  Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  sounds like it's going to be released no matter what and even if some
>>>> on
>>>> this list want it scrapped it looks like this will be released.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  On May 5, 2011, at 7:35 PM, Dectalk at aol.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>    Bingo!  That's why it would be better to scrap it.  If released as
>>>> is,
>>>> it messes with a dead man's life long reputation.  I'm sick over this!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>    SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>> 
>>>>    In a message dated 5/5/2011 7:21:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>> ratguy at insightbb.com writes:
>>>>      What's worse is that, if this gets released in its current state,
>>>> any
>>>> good
>>>>      name DECtalk may have had will get tarnished. We all thought Force
>>>> did
>>>>      horrible things with it. Now this! Someone who sees that a SAPI
>>>> version of
>>>>      DECtalk is available is likely to get excited if they know what
>>>> DECtalk is.
>>>>      When they put down their bucks to actually buy the thing, I hate to
>>>> even
>>>>      think what the reactions will be. This is ridiculous, and an insult
>>>> 
>>>> to
>>>>      Dennis Klatt.
>>>>      Someone who just wants a SAPI synth who has no idea what DECtalk is
>>>> might
>>>>      find the Paul voice acceptable. It sounds like an old guy, which is
>>>>      certainly *not!* how it's supposed to sound. But I'd love to tell
>>>> such
>>>> a
>>>>      person to type [:nu] and see what happens after that.
>>>>      Jayson
>>>> 
>>>>      ----- Original Message -----
>>>>      From: "Alex H." <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
>>>>      To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>      Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 7:14 PM
>>>>      Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> I guess they're just tired of hearing that something's wrong?
>>>> Sounds
>>>>> like a give-up stratagy to me. Funny thing is, probably nobody
>>>> will
>>>>> buy this unless they want to just use Paul or enjoy the sounds of
>>>>> clipping mutated DECTalks or something.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Alex
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 5/5/11, Jayson Smith <ratguy at insightbb.com> wrote:
>>>>>> What the? This product, as we've seen it, is absolutely nowhere
>>>> near
>>>>>> ready
>>>>>> for release. It has several obvious bugs. One of the more
>>>> crippling
>>>> and
>>>>>> totally ridiculous in my opinion is that some of the factory
>>>> default
>>>>>> voices
>>>>>> are virtually unusable because their parameters are incorrect.
>>>> Factory
>>>>>> voices, mind you. Not something some user has messed around with
>>>> and
>>>>>> screwed
>>>>>> up. Default voices, which are supposed to be usable. Sigh.
>>>>>> Jayson
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: <Dectalk at aol.com>
>>>>>> To: <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 6:54 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ugh!  I just got word.  The programmer won't  be allowed to
>>>> join
>>>> and
>>>>>>> they're doing an "As is" release.   (SIGH)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I can't write any more.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 4:40:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>>>>> bmisch2002 at gmail.com writes:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I see.  hope that this project gets fixed soon.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On May 5, 2011, at 4:12 PM, _Dectalk at aol.com_
>>>> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Just so everyone knows, I'm not talking about Ed  at all.  It's
>>>> someone
>>>>>>> else and I've been instructed not to post the  name.  Actually
>>>> I've been
>>>>>>> told
>>>>>>> to stop writing about the  programmer.  But just to be clear,
>>>> it's
>>>> not
>>>>>>> Ed,
>>>>>>> it's someone  else.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 3:54:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>>>>> _musicalman1 at comcast.net_ (mailto:musicalman1 at comcast.net)
>>>> writes:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Very understandable. I did too, after hearing what you  were
>>>> told.
>>>> I
>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>> hoep we can get him on this list and see what  comes out of it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From:  _Dectalk at aol.com_ (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
>>>>>>> To: _dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 3:44  PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any  news?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Maybe if we all ask nicely, someone who knows  the programmer
>>>> will
>>>> get
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> person on here.  I just might not post  anything if this person
>>>> does
>>>>>>> show
>>>>>>> up.  After all, I got told I  don't know what I'm talking
>>>> about.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This person is smart, I just needed to  vent.  I work out of a
>>>> bedroom,
>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>> kind of trapped here  because the house is not wheelchair
>>>> accessible,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> after I was told I  didn't know what I was talking about, I
>>>> needed
>>>> to
>>>>>>> vent.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 3:32:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>>>>> _musicalman1 at comcast.net_ (mailto:musicalman1 at comcast.net)
>>>> writes:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'd like to chat with him at some point and help him  out if I
>>>> could.
>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>> sure some of us would too. Some changes really  need to be
>>>> made.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From:  _Dectalk at aol.com_ (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
>>>>>>> To: _dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011  2:57 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any  news?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have total faith in this list!  We  all know what we're
>>>> doing,
>>>> so lets
>>>>>>> work together and come up with  something for this programmer.
>>>> I
>>>> know
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> person is doing  their best, but this is guess work.  Maybe we
>>>> can
>>>> take
>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>> of  the guessing out of it?  Lets show this person we know our
>>>> stuff!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 2:47:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>>>>> _musicalman1 at comcast.net_ (mailto:musicalman1 at comcast.net)
>>>> writes:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I don't think it's much use. As I  have been saying, someone
>>>> has
>>>> messsed
>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>> because of lack of  knowledge, and is being rather stubborn
>>>> about
>>>>>>> admitting
>>>>>>> that  something needs fixed.
>>>>>>> If we as a list could somehow make it  work, I'd say this thing
>>>> would be
>>>>>>> turning a whole new direction.  For now we can only provide
>>>> feedback and
>>>>>>> test.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From:  _Brandon Misch_ (mailto:bmisch2002 at gmail.com)
>>>>>>> To: _DECtalk Discussions_ (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 05,  2011 8:28 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any  news?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> i see where you're coming from. have you shown  the programmers
>>>> other
>>>>>>> samples like 4.61 etc? maybe you can show  them voices like
>>>> betty
>>>> so
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> can see
>>>>>>> where the loud pops are  coming from.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On May 5, 2011, at 5:59 AM, _Dectalk at aol.com_
>>>> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The problem is, Blake and I have  done that.  We sent a sample
>>>> of
>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>> 4.40 to the head  programmer to show how things should sound.
>>>> We
>>>> got an
>>>>>>> e-mail back saying our version sounded corrupted.  This  person
>>>> actually
>>>>>>> said
>>>>>>> that Whispering Wendy shouldn't be  whispering.  Hello, why
>>>> does
>>>> this
>>>>>>> person
>>>>>>> think the name  is "Whispering Wendy"?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It is totally clear to Blake and I  that this person doesn't
>>>> know
>>>>>>> Dectalk.
>>>>>>> And if version  4.40 is viewed as corrupted, there is no hope
>>>> if
>>>> getting
>>>>>>> anything right.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So because of this, I'm hoping the  project gets scrapped
>>>> because
>>>> this
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> becoming in insult to  Dennis Klatt.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 12:31:35 A.M. Eastern  Daylight
>>>> Time,
>>>>>>> _bmisch2002 at gmail.com_ (mailto:bmisch2002 at gmail.com)   writes:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> maybe you should send the demo file over to the  guys so they
>>>> could hear
>>>>>>> that and how the other voices sound.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 10:10 PM, Alex H.  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I wouldn't give up just yet. All they  need to do is convince
>>>> this guy
>>>>>>>> that he's wrong and  there is a huge, huge difference in this
>>>> version
>>>>>>>> and  the real 4.3 version. This new stuff reminds me of a
>>>> early
>>>> age
>>>>>>>> FonixTalk or something with a lot of excess  nasal tones.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On  5/4/11, _johnnybrl at gmail.com_ (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com)
>>>>>>> <_johnnybrl at gmail.com_ (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com) >  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Well, since it looks like there won't be  a Sapi Dectalk,
>>>> guess
>>>> it's
>>>>>>> time to
>>>>>>>>> look at  Neospeech voices or ivona voices.  It's too bad the
>>>> head
>>>>>>> programer
>>>>>>>>> can't tell the difference between  the Dectalk 4.6 and
>>>> Dectalk
>>>> 4.3
>>>>>>> versions.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> O well, was really looking forward to a Sapi  version of
>>>> Dectalk.
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message  -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Blake Roberts" <_beroberts at hughes.net_
>>>>>>> (mailto:beroberts at hughes.net) >
>>>>>>>>> To: "'DECtalk Discussions'" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 2:06 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject:  Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Alex for being the latest list  member to point out
>>>> need
>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> improvement.  I agree with you that there are clipping/
>>>> drop-out
>>>>>>> issues.
>>>>>>>>>> Additionally, I agree the  SAPI Dectalk  referred to as 4.3
>>>> is
>>>> unlike
>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>> version of Dectalk I have ever heard. I,  too, am unwilling
>>>> to
>>>> give
>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> SAPI  Dectalk.
>>>>>>>>>> Blake
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original  Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: _dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>>> (mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of
>>>> Alex
>>>> H.
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:59  PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Just heard the demo, and.... Well, I agree  with Snoopi,
>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>> terrible.
>>>>>>>>>> I don't know who  was telling you that nothing's wrong, but
>>>> this
>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>> sound even remotely like any DECTalk  version I've heard.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> That  being said, the Huge Harry voice is kinda cool, but
>>>> yeah
>>>>>>>>>> there's
>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>> issues with clipping and  dropouts in the voices, especially
>>>> with
>>>>>>> Ursula
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> Rita.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I don't think we  should give up quite yet though, good
>>>> things
>>>> come
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>>> who wait. Giving up  on this would mean that I and other
>>>> users
>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> NVDA
>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't be able to enjoy DECTalk's  great speech.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On  5/4/11, Jayson Smith <_ratguy at insightbb.com_
>>>>>>> (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) >  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> One clarification. From what I  understand, Enable didn't
>>>> purchase
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> rights to any DECtalk version. They only have the right to
>>>> sell,
>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>> full copyright. As I  understand it, the copyright of
>>>> DECtalk
>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>>>> held by Fonix. I could be wrong  though, I'm no lawyer.
>>>>>>>>>>> Jayson
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> -----  Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Brandon  Misch" <_bmisch2002 at gmail.com_
>>>>>>> (mailto:bmisch2002 at gmail.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:28 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> it also was 4.6.7  at one time. i doubt this project will
>>>> please
>>>>>>> everyone.
>>>>>>>>>>> all we know is enable rehab  purchased the wrights to 4.6.7
>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>> fonix
>>>>>>>>>>> and trying to use that with the  4.3 data files wasn't a
>>>> good
>>>> idea.
>>>>>>>>>>> question is did this happen with other versions of
>>>> dectalk?
>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> this  version?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On May 4,  2011, at 4:13 PM, Raymond Grote wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, but many people miss the old  dectalk 4.3 days. I
>>>> really
>>>> never
>>>>>>>>>>>> got  into dectalk, but I can see why. That version of the
>>>> synth
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> stilll  do
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> have a  special place together even though I was never a
>>>> regular
>>>>>>>>>>>> dectalk user. The major  disappointment for many of us is
>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>> sound like that, it's worse,  and to some of us it is
>>>> unusable.
>>>>>>>>>>>> From
>>>>>>>>>>>> my  understanding,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> someone had posted that the synth  was supposed to sound
>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.6.4,
>>>>>>>>>>>> then somewhere along the line it was changed to  4.3?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----  Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Brandon  Misch
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: DECtalk  Discussions
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04,  2011 1:21 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk]  Any news?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> if this was fixed up, it could still be used as a sapi 5
>>>> synth.
>>>>>>>>>>>> that's  all
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> it  needs for it to be a screen reader  voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On  May 4, 2011, at 1:13 PM, <_johnnybrl at gmail.com_
>>>>>>> (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com) >  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message  -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cool just heard the demo.  And yes it doesn't sound like
>>>> 4.3
>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul voice sounds pretty  cool.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And Frank doesn't sound  too bad either.  It kind of
>>>> reminds
>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the fonix talk demo. sounds  almost like that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And it sounds like this version  of dectalk has more
>>>> inflection
>>>>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.3 did, which I like. I  like lots of inflection in
>>>> synthes,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes
>>>>>>>>>>>>> them  sound
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cool  lol.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Back in high school, we had a  computer with Jaws with a
>>>> Dectalk
>>>>>>>>>>>>> express hooked up to it,  and I used to go in there and
>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dectalk
>>>>>>>>>>>>> say things  lol.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Brandon  Misch
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: DECtalk  Discussions
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May  04, 2011 9:52 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re:  [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> if you read below our messages,  you'll see a link to a
>>>> file
>>>> with
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> demo
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> inside. if you just want to use  paul and a few others,
>>>> it
>>>> works
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not for all  voices.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 12:45 PM,  <_johnnybrl at gmail.com_
>>>>>>> (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com) >  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hi, where did you guys get  the audio samples of the
>>>> sapi
>>>> dectalk
>>>>>>> from?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sounds like you guys  have already heard it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----  Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From:  Brandon Misch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: DECtalk  Discussions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday,  May 04, 2011 9:37 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any  news?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok some of the voices work  while others don't. i can
>>>> see
>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meant by bad  quality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 12:17  PM, _Dectalk at aol.com_
>>>>>>> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)   wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://pastorsnoopi.twigs76.com/music/SAPI%20DEMO.mp3_
>>>>>>> (http://pastorsnoopi.twigs76.com/music/SAPI%20DEMO.mp3)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The above link is the  sample that people wanted.
>>>> Blake
>>>> and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both told that there  is no problem.  Tell that to our
>>>> ears.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (YUCK)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SNOOPI  BOTTEN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In a message dated  5/4/2011 11:16:00 A.M. Eastern
>>>> Daylight
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Time,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _edbruckert at gmail.com_ (mailto:edbruckert at gmail.com)
>>>> writes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All that means  is what you are sent is not acceptable
>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be solved I promise at  this point in my life I need it
>>>> 
>>>> as
>>>> much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anybody  else
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at  10:48 AM, <_Dectalk at aol.com_
>>>>>>> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com) >  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brace yourselves  because I don't think you guys will
>>>> like
>>>> it.
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worst voice is  Kit.  I'd do the recording for you guys
>>>> but  I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really don't want to  be linked with this pour Dectalk
>>>> quality.
>>>>>>> Have
>>>>>>>>>> fun  guys.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SNOOPI  BOTTEN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In a message dated  5/4/2011 9:10:14 A.M. Eastern
>>>> Daylight
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Time,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _ratguy at insightbb.com_ (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com)
>>>> writes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's a sample text. I  assume you can use DECtalk
>>>> commands in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> text?  An
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MP3 of the 4.3 speak  application performing this exact
>>>> text can
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> found  at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://www.bluegrasspals.com/dt43sample.mp3_
>>>>>>> (http://www.bluegrasspals.com/dt43sample.mp3)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now here's the text.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:phoneme  on]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:ra  250]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello. This is the  factory default Paul  voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm talking now  with this voice since this is what
>>>> most
>>>> people
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably going to be  using. Let's speed it up a  bit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:ra  300]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is probably  how Jayson's JFW would talk normally.
>>>> Now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> let's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> put some  intonation in there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:dv pr 250] [:dv sr 50]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, this is how Jayson used to listen to DECtalk
>>>> back
>>>> in  the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good  old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DOS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> days. With 4.3 and  earlier, if you could get used to
>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you would over  time, this sounds pretty good! It'd
>>>> take
>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting used to  again, not having had it for so  long.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:ra  250]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The rest of this  demo was created a few months ago to
>>>> compair
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> test the various  other factory voices and several
>>>> custom
>>>> voices
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different DECtalk  versions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will now  test the other voices.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nb] I'm Beautiful Betty, the default female  voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nh] I'm Huge  Harry.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nd] I'm Doctor  Dennis.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nf] I'm Frail  Frank.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nu] I'm Uppity  Ursula.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nr] I'm Rough  Rita.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nw] I'm  Whispering Wendy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nk]  and I'm Kit the Kid.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now I'll let the  DECtalk manual describe  us.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np]     Perfect Paul         Standard male  voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nb]   Beautiful Betty Standard female  voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nh]   Huge Harry      Deep male  voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nf]   Frail Frank         Older male  voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nk]   Kit the Kid         Child's voice (about 10
>>>> years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nr]     Rough Rita      Deep female  voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nu]   Uppity Ursula   Light female  voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nd]   Doctor Dennis   Breathy male  voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nw]   Whispering Wendy Whispery female  voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, let's test a  few custom voices.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nf]  [:dv br 0 la 0 sr 100 hr 100 ap 150 pr 95] [:ra
>>>> 220] This
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the voice of Rimmer  from Red Dwarf.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lister,  we are being tested! I don't know what to  do!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nf] [:ra 240] [:dv  br 0 hs 95 ap 100 as 100 pr 220
>>>> hr
>>>> 30 sr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 30]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is  Lister.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rimmer! Come  over here and help me with this new
>>>> speech
>>>>>>> synthesizer!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv  as 0 bf 0 la 20 nf 00 ri 100 sm 0 hr 0 sr
>>>> 0]
>>>> [:ra
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 220]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is  Holly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is an  important announcement. All persons aboard
>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ship
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are to report to  the voice calibration office at once.
>>>> That is
>>>>>>> all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv br 100  lx 100 bf 100 hr 100 sr 100 as 100
>>>> qu
>>>> 100 ap
>>>>>>> 110
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pr 150  sx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 la 0]  [:ra  210] This is the voice of the  toaster.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know  where this voice calibration office is.
>>>> Does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want some  toast?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv sm 1  hs 90  br 0 ri 0 la 0] [:ra 250] I'm
>>>> the
>>>> cat.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who says my voice  needs to be calibrated? I want
>>>> fishies!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nd] [:dv as 0  bf 0 la 20 nf 00 ri 100 hr 0 sr 0]
>>>> [:ra
>>>> 220]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Queeg  500.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> None of you have  any credit, so you may not use the
>>>> voice
>>>>>>> calibrator.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nu] [:dv  as 1 bf 10 la 30 nf 10 ri 100 sm 50 hr 100
>>>> sr
>>>> 20  ap
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 130] [:ra 240] I'm  the newer voice of  Holly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm picking  something up. It's another ship. Its name
>>>> is
>>>> Deck
>>>>>>> Talk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or something very  close. They have been conducting an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experiment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on us  all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time. That would  explain why we've been saying all
>>>> these
>>>> silly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knew I was having  trouble finding a record of any
>>>> voice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> calibration office  on Red Dwarf.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message  -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Corine  Bickley" <_corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu_
>>>>>>> (mailto:corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 7:02  AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re:  [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HI  Jayson,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will do  that. Could you suggest some sample
>>>> sentences
>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> synthesize?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We're  trying to find a way to put a "demo play"
>>>> button
>>>> on  the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Enable website  so people can type in any text they'd
>>>> like  to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hear, but our  programmer hasn't been able to spend
>>>> time
>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> project right  now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011  at 8:12 PM, Jayson  Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <_ratguy at insightbb.com_ (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com)
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you  have any audio samples you could share? Maybe
>>>> 
>>>> I
>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> elaborate  on what people don't like. I pretty much
>>>> know
>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.3 sounds  like.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jayson
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original  Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Corine Bickley"
>>>> <_corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu_
>>>>>>> (mailto:corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions"
>>>> <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 7:53  PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re:  [DECtalk] Any  news?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i meant - i  can't hear the differences, not being
>>>> so
>>>> attuned
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the   various DT versions. i can hear ok, but i'm
>>>> not
>>>> clear
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the   differences in  quality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May  3, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Jayson  Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <_ratguy at insightbb.com_
>>>> (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wo, you  actually got 4.3 working with SAPI? What
>>>> kind
>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quality problems are  there?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----  Original Message  -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Corine Bickley"
>>>> <_corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu_
>>>>>>> (mailto:corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions"
>>>> <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:14  PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any  news?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still waiting for one of the "old" (not
>>>> chronologically,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just in terms of contact with DT) to send some
>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> versions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for  testing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.3 and 4.67 work in SAPI fine but preliminary
>>>> listening
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> results indicate  dissatisfaction.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On  Tue, May 3, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Jayson  Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <_ratguy at insightbb.com_
>>>> (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, it's broken record time. Anything new
>>>> going
>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the SAPI  DECtalk?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Haven't heard anything in a  while.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jayson
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing  list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing  list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing  list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing  list
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing  list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
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>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
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>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
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>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>> ----------
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> DECtalk  mailing list
>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> DECtalk  mailing list
>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ____________________________________
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> DECtalk  mailing list
>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> DECtalk  mailing list
>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ____________________________________
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> DECtalk  mailing list
>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> DECtalk  mailing list
>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ____________________________________
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> DECtalk  mailing list
>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> DECtalk  mailing list
>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> DECtalk  mailing list
>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> DECtalk  mailing  list
>>>>>>> DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>> DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>> DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>> DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>> 
>>>>      _______________________________________________
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>>>>      DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>      http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>> 
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>>>>    http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> 
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