[DECtalk] Any news?
Brandon Misch
bmisch2002 at gmail.com
Thu May 5 22:58:34 EDT 2011
lol
On May 5, 2011, at 10:16 PM, Alex H. wrote:
> Lol! Tried that, yep, it's a E-flat then drops to a C with a little sigh.
>
> It's tired of sounding like crap so it sighs lol
>
> Alex
>
> On 5/5/11, Raymond Grote <musicalman1 at comcast.net> wrote:
>> And, I was able to make rather amusing sounds by putting one note in for
>> singing. I put in a low c, and instead of being a low c, it was like a sigh
>> of satisfaction. It started at an e, went down to a d, then got breathy and
>> ended. I can clarify if needed. Maybe post a sample and the code I used. But
>> it was funny.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Alex H." <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 9:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>
>>
>>> I was also under the impression that the testers were supposed to give
>>> feedback about the project and so on, but when they did, they got
>>> nothing but snide remarks that it's the same, "you don't know what
>>> you're talking about," etc. That sort of thing is just not cool,
>>> seeing as you're supposed to sell this! I hope nobody buys this just
>>> to proove the point that this is just not even close to being ready
>>> for any type of release!
>>>
>>> But I suppose, at this rate we're just screaming at the wind and
>>> nothing will change.
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/5/11, Raymond Grote <musicalman1 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> I'm pretty sure it will. The least we can do is not buy it and discourage
>>>> others from using it, unless they decide to make a change. I am hoping
>>>> they
>>>> will, but I'm very sure they won't.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Brandon Misch
>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 9:22 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> sounds like it's going to be released no matter what and even if some
>>>> on
>>>> this list want it scrapped it looks like this will be released.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 5, 2011, at 7:35 PM, Dectalk at aol.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bingo! That's why it would be better to scrap it. If released as
>>>> is,
>>>> it messes with a dead man's life long reputation. I'm sick over this!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>
>>>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 7:21:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>> ratguy at insightbb.com writes:
>>>> What's worse is that, if this gets released in its current state,
>>>> any
>>>> good
>>>> name DECtalk may have had will get tarnished. We all thought Force
>>>> did
>>>> horrible things with it. Now this! Someone who sees that a SAPI
>>>> version of
>>>> DECtalk is available is likely to get excited if they know what
>>>> DECtalk is.
>>>> When they put down their bucks to actually buy the thing, I hate to
>>>> even
>>>> think what the reactions will be. This is ridiculous, and an insult
>>>>
>>>> to
>>>> Dennis Klatt.
>>>> Someone who just wants a SAPI synth who has no idea what DECtalk is
>>>> might
>>>> find the Paul voice acceptable. It sounds like an old guy, which is
>>>> certainly *not!* how it's supposed to sound. But I'd love to tell
>>>> such
>>>> a
>>>> person to type [:nu] and see what happens after that.
>>>> Jayson
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Alex H." <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 7:14 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I guess they're just tired of hearing that something's wrong?
>>>> Sounds
>>>>> like a give-up stratagy to me. Funny thing is, probably nobody
>>>> will
>>>>> buy this unless they want to just use Paul or enjoy the sounds of
>>>>> clipping mutated DECTalks or something.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alex
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/5/11, Jayson Smith <ratguy at insightbb.com> wrote:
>>>>>> What the? This product, as we've seen it, is absolutely nowhere
>>>> near
>>>>>> ready
>>>>>> for release. It has several obvious bugs. One of the more
>>>> crippling
>>>> and
>>>>>> totally ridiculous in my opinion is that some of the factory
>>>> default
>>>>>> voices
>>>>>> are virtually unusable because their parameters are incorrect.
>>>> Factory
>>>>>> voices, mind you. Not something some user has messed around with
>>>> and
>>>>>> screwed
>>>>>> up. Default voices, which are supposed to be usable. Sigh.
>>>>>> Jayson
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: <Dectalk at aol.com>
>>>>>> To: <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 6:54 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ugh! I just got word. The programmer won't be allowed to
>>>> join
>>>> and
>>>>>>> they're doing an "As is" release. (SIGH)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can't write any more.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 4:40:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>>>>> bmisch2002 at gmail.com writes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I see. hope that this project gets fixed soon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On May 5, 2011, at 4:12 PM, _Dectalk at aol.com_
>>>> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just so everyone knows, I'm not talking about Ed at all. It's
>>>> someone
>>>>>>> else and I've been instructed not to post the name. Actually
>>>> I've been
>>>>>>> told
>>>>>>> to stop writing about the programmer. But just to be clear,
>>>> it's
>>>> not
>>>>>>> Ed,
>>>>>>> it's someone else.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 3:54:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>>>>> _musicalman1 at comcast.net_ (mailto:musicalman1 at comcast.net)
>>>> writes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Very understandable. I did too, after hearing what you were
>>>> told.
>>>> I
>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>> hoep we can get him on this list and see what comes out of it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: _Dectalk at aol.com_ (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
>>>>>>> To: _dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 3:44 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe if we all ask nicely, someone who knows the programmer
>>>> will
>>>> get
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> person on here. I just might not post anything if this person
>>>> does
>>>>>>> show
>>>>>>> up. After all, I got told I don't know what I'm talking
>>>> about.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This person is smart, I just needed to vent. I work out of a
>>>> bedroom,
>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>> kind of trapped here because the house is not wheelchair
>>>> accessible,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> after I was told I didn't know what I was talking about, I
>>>> needed
>>>> to
>>>>>>> vent.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 3:32:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>>>>> _musicalman1 at comcast.net_ (mailto:musicalman1 at comcast.net)
>>>> writes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd like to chat with him at some point and help him out if I
>>>> could.
>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>> sure some of us would too. Some changes really need to be
>>>> made.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: _Dectalk at aol.com_ (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
>>>>>>> To: _dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 2:57 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have total faith in this list! We all know what we're
>>>> doing,
>>>> so lets
>>>>>>> work together and come up with something for this programmer.
>>>> I
>>>> know
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> person is doing their best, but this is guess work. Maybe we
>>>> can
>>>> take
>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>> of the guessing out of it? Lets show this person we know our
>>>> stuff!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 2:47:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>>>>> _musicalman1 at comcast.net_ (mailto:musicalman1 at comcast.net)
>>>> writes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't think it's much use. As I have been saying, someone
>>>> has
>>>> messsed
>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>> because of lack of knowledge, and is being rather stubborn
>>>> about
>>>>>>> admitting
>>>>>>> that something needs fixed.
>>>>>>> If we as a list could somehow make it work, I'd say this thing
>>>> would be
>>>>>>> turning a whole new direction. For now we can only provide
>>>> feedback and
>>>>>>> test.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: _Brandon Misch_ (mailto:bmisch2002 at gmail.com)
>>>>>>> To: _DECtalk Discussions_ (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 8:28 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i see where you're coming from. have you shown the programmers
>>>> other
>>>>>>> samples like 4.61 etc? maybe you can show them voices like
>>>> betty
>>>> so
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> can see
>>>>>>> where the loud pops are coming from.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On May 5, 2011, at 5:59 AM, _Dectalk at aol.com_
>>>> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The problem is, Blake and I have done that. We sent a sample
>>>> of
>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>> 4.40 to the head programmer to show how things should sound.
>>>> We
>>>> got an
>>>>>>> e-mail back saying our version sounded corrupted. This person
>>>> actually
>>>>>>> said
>>>>>>> that Whispering Wendy shouldn't be whispering. Hello, why
>>>> does
>>>> this
>>>>>>> person
>>>>>>> think the name is "Whispering Wendy"?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is totally clear to Blake and I that this person doesn't
>>>> know
>>>>>>> Dectalk.
>>>>>>> And if version 4.40 is viewed as corrupted, there is no hope
>>>> if
>>>> getting
>>>>>>> anything right.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So because of this, I'm hoping the project gets scrapped
>>>> because
>>>> this
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> becoming in insult to Dennis Klatt.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 12:31:35 A.M. Eastern Daylight
>>>> Time,
>>>>>>> _bmisch2002 at gmail.com_ (mailto:bmisch2002 at gmail.com) writes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> maybe you should send the demo file over to the guys so they
>>>> could hear
>>>>>>> that and how the other voices sound.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 10:10 PM, Alex H. wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wouldn't give up just yet. All they need to do is convince
>>>> this guy
>>>>>>>> that he's wrong and there is a huge, huge difference in this
>>>> version
>>>>>>>> and the real 4.3 version. This new stuff reminds me of a
>>>> early
>>>> age
>>>>>>>> FonixTalk or something with a lot of excess nasal tones.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/4/11, _johnnybrl at gmail.com_ (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com)
>>>>>>> <_johnnybrl at gmail.com_ (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com) > wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Well, since it looks like there won't be a Sapi Dectalk,
>>>> guess
>>>> it's
>>>>>>> time to
>>>>>>>>> look at Neospeech voices or ivona voices. It's too bad the
>>>> head
>>>>>>> programer
>>>>>>>>> can't tell the difference between the Dectalk 4.6 and
>>>> Dectalk
>>>> 4.3
>>>>>>> versions.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> O well, was really looking forward to a Sapi version of
>>>> Dectalk.
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Blake Roberts" <_beroberts at hughes.net_
>>>>>>> (mailto:beroberts at hughes.net) >
>>>>>>>>> To: "'DECtalk Discussions'" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 2:06 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Alex for being the latest list member to point out
>>>> need
>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> improvement. I agree with you that there are clipping/
>>>> drop-out
>>>>>>> issues.
>>>>>>>>>> Additionally, I agree the SAPI Dectalk referred to as 4.3
>>>> is
>>>> unlike
>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>> version of Dectalk I have ever heard. I, too, am unwilling
>>>> to
>>>> give
>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> SAPI Dectalk.
>>>>>>>>>> Blake
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: _dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>>> (mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of
>>>> Alex
>>>> H.
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:59 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just heard the demo, and.... Well, I agree with Snoopi,
>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>> terrible.
>>>>>>>>>> I don't know who was telling you that nothing's wrong, but
>>>> this
>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>> sound even remotely like any DECTalk version I've heard.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That being said, the Huge Harry voice is kinda cool, but
>>>> yeah
>>>>>>>>>> there's
>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>> issues with clipping and dropouts in the voices, especially
>>>> with
>>>>>>> Ursula
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> Rita.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't think we should give up quite yet though, good
>>>> things
>>>> come
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>>> who wait. Giving up on this would mean that I and other
>>>> users
>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> NVDA
>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't be able to enjoy DECTalk's great speech.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/4/11, Jayson Smith <_ratguy at insightbb.com_
>>>>>>> (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> One clarification. From what I understand, Enable didn't
>>>> purchase
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> rights to any DECtalk version. They only have the right to
>>>> sell,
>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>> full copyright. As I understand it, the copyright of
>>>> DECtalk
>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>>>> held by Fonix. I could be wrong though, I'm no lawyer.
>>>>>>>>>>> Jayson
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Brandon Misch" <_bmisch2002 at gmail.com_
>>>>>>> (mailto:bmisch2002 at gmail.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:28 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> it also was 4.6.7 at one time. i doubt this project will
>>>> please
>>>>>>> everyone.
>>>>>>>>>>> all we know is enable rehab purchased the wrights to 4.6.7
>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>> fonix
>>>>>>>>>>> and trying to use that with the 4.3 data files wasn't a
>>>> good
>>>> idea.
>>>>>>>>>>> question is did this happen with other versions of
>>>> dectalk?
>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> this version?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Raymond Grote wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, but many people miss the old dectalk 4.3 days. I
>>>> really
>>>> never
>>>>>>>>>>>> got into dectalk, but I can see why. That version of the
>>>> synth
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> stilll do
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> have a special place together even though I was never a
>>>> regular
>>>>>>>>>>>> dectalk user. The major disappointment for many of us is
>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>> sound like that, it's worse, and to some of us it is
>>>> unusable.
>>>>>>>>>>>> From
>>>>>>>>>>>> my understanding,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> someone had posted that the synth was supposed to sound
>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.6.4,
>>>>>>>>>>>> then somewhere along the line it was changed to 4.3?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Brandon Misch
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 1:21 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> if this was fixed up, it could still be used as a sapi 5
>>>> synth.
>>>>>>>>>>>> that's all
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> it needs for it to be a screen reader voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 1:13 PM, <_johnnybrl at gmail.com_
>>>>>>> (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com) > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cool just heard the demo. And yes it doesn't sound like
>>>> 4.3
>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul voice sounds pretty cool.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And Frank doesn't sound too bad either. It kind of
>>>> reminds
>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the fonix talk demo. sounds almost like that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And it sounds like this version of dectalk has more
>>>> inflection
>>>>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.3 did, which I like. I like lots of inflection in
>>>> synthes,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes
>>>>>>>>>>>>> them sound
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cool lol.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Back in high school, we had a computer with Jaws with a
>>>> Dectalk
>>>>>>>>>>>>> express hooked up to it, and I used to go in there and
>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dectalk
>>>>>>>>>>>>> say things lol.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Brandon Misch
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 9:52 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> if you read below our messages, you'll see a link to a
>>>> file
>>>> with
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> demo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> inside. if you just want to use paul and a few others,
>>>> it
>>>> works
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not for all voices.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 12:45 PM, <_johnnybrl at gmail.com_
>>>>>>> (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com) > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hi, where did you guys get the audio samples of the
>>>> sapi
>>>> dectalk
>>>>>>> from?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sounds like you guys have already heard it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Brandon Misch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 9:37 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok some of the voices work while others don't. i can
>>>> see
>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meant by bad quality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 12:17 PM, _Dectalk at aol.com_
>>>>>>> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://pastorsnoopi.twigs76.com/music/SAPI%20DEMO.mp3_
>>>>>>> (http://pastorsnoopi.twigs76.com/music/SAPI%20DEMO.mp3)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The above link is the sample that people wanted.
>>>> Blake
>>>> and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both told that there is no problem. Tell that to our
>>>> ears.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (YUCK)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In a message dated 5/4/2011 11:16:00 A.M. Eastern
>>>> Daylight
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Time,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _edbruckert at gmail.com_ (mailto:edbruckert at gmail.com)
>>>> writes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All that means is what you are sent is not acceptable
>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be solved I promise at this point in my life I need it
>>>>
>>>> as
>>>> much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anybody else
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 10:48 AM, <_Dectalk at aol.com_
>>>>>>> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com) > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brace yourselves because I don't think you guys will
>>>> like
>>>> it.
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worst voice is Kit. I'd do the recording for you guys
>>>> but I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really don't want to be linked with this pour Dectalk
>>>> quality.
>>>>>>> Have
>>>>>>>>>> fun guys.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In a message dated 5/4/2011 9:10:14 A.M. Eastern
>>>> Daylight
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Time,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _ratguy at insightbb.com_ (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com)
>>>> writes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's a sample text. I assume you can use DECtalk
>>>> commands in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> text? An
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MP3 of the 4.3 speak application performing this exact
>>>> text can
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> found at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://www.bluegrasspals.com/dt43sample.mp3_
>>>>>>> (http://www.bluegrasspals.com/dt43sample.mp3)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now here's the text.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:phoneme on]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:ra 250]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello. This is the factory default Paul voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm talking now with this voice since this is what
>>>> most
>>>> people
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably going to be using. Let's speed it up a bit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:ra 300]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is probably how Jayson's JFW would talk normally.
>>>> Now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> let's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> put some intonation in there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:dv pr 250] [:dv sr 50]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, this is how Jayson used to listen to DECtalk
>>>> back
>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DOS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> days. With 4.3 and earlier, if you could get used to
>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you would over time, this sounds pretty good! It'd
>>>> take
>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting used to again, not having had it for so long.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:ra 250]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The rest of this demo was created a few months ago to
>>>> compair
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> test the various other factory voices and several
>>>> custom
>>>> voices
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different DECtalk versions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will now test the other voices.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nb] I'm Beautiful Betty, the default female voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nh] I'm Huge Harry.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nd] I'm Doctor Dennis.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nf] I'm Frail Frank.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nu] I'm Uppity Ursula.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nr] I'm Rough Rita.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nw] I'm Whispering Wendy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nk] and I'm Kit the Kid.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now I'll let the DECtalk manual describe us.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np] Perfect Paul Standard male voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nb] Beautiful Betty Standard female voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nh] Huge Harry Deep male voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nf] Frail Frank Older male voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nk] Kit the Kid Child's voice (about 10
>>>> years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nr] Rough Rita Deep female voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nu] Uppity Ursula Light female voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nd] Doctor Dennis Breathy male voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nw] Whispering Wendy Whispery female voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, let's test a few custom voices.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nf] [:dv br 0 la 0 sr 100 hr 100 ap 150 pr 95] [:ra
>>>> 220] This
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the voice of Rimmer from Red Dwarf.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lister, we are being tested! I don't know what to do!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nf] [:ra 240] [:dv br 0 hs 95 ap 100 as 100 pr 220
>>>> hr
>>>> 30 sr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 30]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is Lister.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rimmer! Come over here and help me with this new
>>>> speech
>>>>>>> synthesizer!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv as 0 bf 0 la 20 nf 00 ri 100 sm 0 hr 0 sr
>>>> 0]
>>>> [:ra
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 220]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is Holly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is an important announcement. All persons aboard
>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ship
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are to report to the voice calibration office at once.
>>>> That is
>>>>>>> all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv br 100 lx 100 bf 100 hr 100 sr 100 as 100
>>>> qu
>>>> 100 ap
>>>>>>> 110
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pr 150 sx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 la 0] [:ra 210] This is the voice of the toaster.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know where this voice calibration office is.
>>>> Does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want some toast?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv sm 1 hs 90 br 0 ri 0 la 0] [:ra 250] I'm
>>>> the
>>>> cat.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who says my voice needs to be calibrated? I want
>>>> fishies!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nd] [:dv as 0 bf 0 la 20 nf 00 ri 100 hr 0 sr 0]
>>>> [:ra
>>>> 220]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Queeg 500.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> None of you have any credit, so you may not use the
>>>> voice
>>>>>>> calibrator.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nu] [:dv as 1 bf 10 la 30 nf 10 ri 100 sm 50 hr 100
>>>> sr
>>>> 20 ap
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 130] [:ra 240] I'm the newer voice of Holly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm picking something up. It's another ship. Its name
>>>> is
>>>> Deck
>>>>>>> Talk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or something very close. They have been conducting an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experiment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on us all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time. That would explain why we've been saying all
>>>> these
>>>> silly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knew I was having trouble finding a record of any
>>>> voice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> calibration office on Red Dwarf.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Corine Bickley" <_corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu_
>>>>>>> (mailto:corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 7:02 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HI Jayson,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will do that. Could you suggest some sample
>>>> sentences
>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> synthesize?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We're trying to find a way to put a "demo play"
>>>> button
>>>> on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Enable website so people can type in any text they'd
>>>> like to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hear, but our programmer hasn't been able to spend
>>>> time
>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> project right now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Jayson Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <_ratguy at insightbb.com_ (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com)
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have any audio samples you could share? Maybe
>>>>
>>>> I
>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> elaborate on what people don't like. I pretty much
>>>> know
>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.3 sounds like.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jayson
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Corine Bickley"
>>>> <_corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu_
>>>>>>> (mailto:corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions"
>>>> <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 7:53 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i meant - i can't hear the differences, not being
>>>> so
>>>> attuned
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the various DT versions. i can hear ok, but i'm
>>>> not
>>>> clear
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the differences in quality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Jayson Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <_ratguy at insightbb.com_
>>>> (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wo, you actually got 4.3 working with SAPI? What
>>>> kind
>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quality problems are there?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Corine Bickley"
>>>> <_corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu_
>>>>>>> (mailto:corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions"
>>>> <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:14 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still waiting for one of the "old" (not
>>>> chronologically,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just in terms of contact with DT) to send some
>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> versions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for testing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.3 and 4.67 work in SAPI fine but preliminary
>>>> listening
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> results indicate dissatisfaction.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Jayson Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <_ratguy at insightbb.com_
>>>> (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, it's broken record time. Anything new
>>>> going
>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the SAPI DECtalk?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Haven't heard anything in a while.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jayson
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
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>>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
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>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
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>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
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>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>> ----------
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ____________________________________
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ____________________________________
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ____________________________________
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
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