[DECtalk] Any news?
Brandon Misch
bmisch2002 at gmail.com
Thu May 5 22:57:57 EDT 2011
well, at least we get some laughs out of this
On May 5, 2011, at 10:08 PM, Raymond Grote wrote:
> And, I was able to make rather amusing sounds by putting one note in for
> singing. I put in a low c, and instead of being a low c, it was like a sigh
> of satisfaction. It started at an e, went down to a d, then got breathy and
> ended. I can clarify if needed. Maybe post a sample and the code I used. But
> it was funny.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alex H." <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 9:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>
>
>> I was also under the impression that the testers were supposed to give
>> feedback about the project and so on, but when they did, they got
>> nothing but snide remarks that it's the same, "you don't know what
>> you're talking about," etc. That sort of thing is just not cool,
>> seeing as you're supposed to sell this! I hope nobody buys this just
>> to proove the point that this is just not even close to being ready
>> for any type of release!
>>
>> But I suppose, at this rate we're just screaming at the wind and
>> nothing will change.
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/5/11, Raymond Grote <musicalman1 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> I'm pretty sure it will. The least we can do is not buy it and discourage
>>> others from using it, unless they decide to make a change. I am hoping
>>> they
>>> will, but I'm very sure they won't.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Brandon Misch
>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 9:22 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>
>>>
>>> sounds like it's going to be released no matter what and even if some
>>> on
>>> this list want it scrapped it looks like this will be released.
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 5, 2011, at 7:35 PM, Dectalk at aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Bingo! That's why it would be better to scrap it. If released as
>>> is,
>>> it messes with a dead man's life long reputation. I'm sick over this!
>>>
>>>
>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>
>>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 7:21:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>> ratguy at insightbb.com writes:
>>> What's worse is that, if this gets released in its current state,
>>> any
>>> good
>>> name DECtalk may have had will get tarnished. We all thought Force
>>> did
>>> horrible things with it. Now this! Someone who sees that a SAPI
>>> version of
>>> DECtalk is available is likely to get excited if they know what
>>> DECtalk is.
>>> When they put down their bucks to actually buy the thing, I hate to
>>> even
>>> think what the reactions will be. This is ridiculous, and an insult
>>> to
>>> Dennis Klatt.
>>> Someone who just wants a SAPI synth who has no idea what DECtalk is
>>> might
>>> find the Paul voice acceptable. It sounds like an old guy, which is
>>> certainly *not!* how it's supposed to sound. But I'd love to tell
>>> such
>>> a
>>> person to type [:nu] and see what happens after that.
>>> Jayson
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Alex H." <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 7:14 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>
>>>
>>>> I guess they're just tired of hearing that something's wrong?
>>> Sounds
>>>> like a give-up stratagy to me. Funny thing is, probably nobody
>>> will
>>>> buy this unless they want to just use Paul or enjoy the sounds of
>>>> clipping mutated DECTalks or something.
>>>>
>>>> Alex
>>>>
>>>> On 5/5/11, Jayson Smith <ratguy at insightbb.com> wrote:
>>>>> What the? This product, as we've seen it, is absolutely nowhere
>>> near
>>>>> ready
>>>>> for release. It has several obvious bugs. One of the more
>>> crippling
>>> and
>>>>> totally ridiculous in my opinion is that some of the factory
>>> default
>>>>> voices
>>>>> are virtually unusable because their parameters are incorrect.
>>> Factory
>>>>> voices, mind you. Not something some user has messed around with
>>> and
>>>>> screwed
>>>>> up. Default voices, which are supposed to be usable. Sigh.
>>>>> Jayson
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: <Dectalk at aol.com>
>>>>> To: <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 6:54 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ugh! I just got word. The programmer won't be allowed to
>>> join
>>> and
>>>>>> they're doing an "As is" release. (SIGH)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can't write any more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 4:40:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>>>> bmisch2002 at gmail.com writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I see. hope that this project gets fixed soon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 5, 2011, at 4:12 PM, _Dectalk at aol.com_
>>> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just so everyone knows, I'm not talking about Ed at all. It's
>>> someone
>>>>>> else and I've been instructed not to post the name. Actually
>>> I've been
>>>>>> told
>>>>>> to stop writing about the programmer. But just to be clear,
>>> it's
>>> not
>>>>>> Ed,
>>>>>> it's someone else.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 3:54:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>>>> _musicalman1 at comcast.net_ (mailto:musicalman1 at comcast.net)
>>> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Very understandable. I did too, after hearing what you were
>>> told.
>>> I
>>>>>> really
>>>>>> hoep we can get him on this list and see what comes out of it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: _Dectalk at aol.com_ (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
>>>>>> To: _dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 3:44 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe if we all ask nicely, someone who knows the programmer
>>> will
>>> get
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> person on here. I just might not post anything if this person
>>> does
>>>>>> show
>>>>>> up. After all, I got told I don't know what I'm talking
>>> about.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This person is smart, I just needed to vent. I work out of a
>>> bedroom,
>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>> kind of trapped here because the house is not wheelchair
>>> accessible,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> after I was told I didn't know what I was talking about, I
>>> needed
>>> to
>>>>>> vent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 3:32:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>>>> _musicalman1 at comcast.net_ (mailto:musicalman1 at comcast.net)
>>> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd like to chat with him at some point and help him out if I
>>> could.
>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>> sure some of us would too. Some changes really need to be
>>> made.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: _Dectalk at aol.com_ (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
>>>>>> To: _dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 2:57 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have total faith in this list! We all know what we're
>>> doing,
>>> so lets
>>>>>> work together and come up with something for this programmer.
>>> I
>>> know
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> person is doing their best, but this is guess work. Maybe we
>>> can
>>> take
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> of the guessing out of it? Lets show this person we know our
>>> stuff!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 2:47:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>>>> _musicalman1 at comcast.net_ (mailto:musicalman1 at comcast.net)
>>> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think it's much use. As I have been saying, someone
>>> has
>>> messsed
>>>>>> up
>>>>>> because of lack of knowledge, and is being rather stubborn
>>> about
>>>>>> admitting
>>>>>> that something needs fixed.
>>>>>> If we as a list could somehow make it work, I'd say this thing
>>> would be
>>>>>> turning a whole new direction. For now we can only provide
>>> feedback and
>>>>>> test.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: _Brandon Misch_ (mailto:bmisch2002 at gmail.com)
>>>>>> To: _DECtalk Discussions_ (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 8:28 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i see where you're coming from. have you shown the programmers
>>> other
>>>>>> samples like 4.61 etc? maybe you can show them voices like
>>> betty
>>> so
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> can see
>>>>>> where the loud pops are coming from.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 5, 2011, at 5:59 AM, _Dectalk at aol.com_
>>> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem is, Blake and I have done that. We sent a sample
>>> of
>>>>>> version
>>>>>> 4.40 to the head programmer to show how things should sound.
>>> We
>>> got an
>>>>>> e-mail back saying our version sounded corrupted. This person
>>> actually
>>>>>> said
>>>>>> that Whispering Wendy shouldn't be whispering. Hello, why
>>> does
>>> this
>>>>>> person
>>>>>> think the name is "Whispering Wendy"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is totally clear to Blake and I that this person doesn't
>>> know
>>>>>> Dectalk.
>>>>>> And if version 4.40 is viewed as corrupted, there is no hope
>>> if
>>> getting
>>>>>> anything right.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So because of this, I'm hoping the project gets scrapped
>>> because
>>> this
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> becoming in insult to Dennis Klatt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 12:31:35 A.M. Eastern Daylight
>>> Time,
>>>>>> _bmisch2002 at gmail.com_ (mailto:bmisch2002 at gmail.com) writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> maybe you should send the demo file over to the guys so they
>>> could hear
>>>>>> that and how the other voices sound.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 10:10 PM, Alex H. wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wouldn't give up just yet. All they need to do is convince
>>> this guy
>>>>>>> that he's wrong and there is a huge, huge difference in this
>>> version
>>>>>>> and the real 4.3 version. This new stuff reminds me of a
>>> early
>>> age
>>>>>>> FonixTalk or something with a lot of excess nasal tones.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/4/11, _johnnybrl at gmail.com_ (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com)
>>>>>> <_johnnybrl at gmail.com_ (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com) > wrote:
>>>>>>>> Well, since it looks like there won't be a Sapi Dectalk,
>>> guess
>>> it's
>>>>>> time to
>>>>>>>> look at Neospeech voices or ivona voices. It's too bad the
>>> head
>>>>>> programer
>>>>>>>> can't tell the difference between the Dectalk 4.6 and
>>> Dectalk
>>> 4.3
>>>>>> versions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> O well, was really looking forward to a Sapi version of
>>> Dectalk.
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Blake Roberts" <_beroberts at hughes.net_
>>>>>> (mailto:beroberts at hughes.net) >
>>>>>>>> To: "'DECtalk Discussions'" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 2:06 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Alex for being the latest list member to point out
>>> need
>>> for
>>>>>>>>> improvement. I agree with you that there are clipping/
>>> drop-out
>>>>>> issues.
>>>>>>>>> Additionally, I agree the SAPI Dectalk referred to as 4.3
>>> is
>>> unlike
>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>> version of Dectalk I have ever heard. I, too, am unwilling
>>> to
>>> give
>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> SAPI Dectalk.
>>>>>>>>> Blake
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: _dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of
>>> Alex
>>> H.
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:59 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just heard the demo, and.... Well, I agree with Snoopi,
>>> it's
>>>>>>>>> terrible.
>>>>>>>>> I don't know who was telling you that nothing's wrong, but
>>> this
>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>> sound even remotely like any DECTalk version I've heard.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That being said, the Huge Harry voice is kinda cool, but
>>> yeah
>>>>>>>>> there's
>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>> issues with clipping and dropouts in the voices, especially
>>> with
>>>>>> Ursula
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> Rita.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't think we should give up quite yet though, good
>>> things
>>> come
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>> who wait. Giving up on this would mean that I and other
>>> users
>>> of
>>>>>>>>> NVDA
>>>>>>>>> wouldn't be able to enjoy DECTalk's great speech.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 5/4/11, Jayson Smith <_ratguy at insightbb.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> One clarification. From what I understand, Enable didn't
>>> purchase
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> rights to any DECtalk version. They only have the right to
>>> sell,
>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>> full copyright. As I understand it, the copyright of
>>> DECtalk
>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>>> held by Fonix. I could be wrong though, I'm no lawyer.
>>>>>>>>>> Jayson
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Brandon Misch" <_bmisch2002 at gmail.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:bmisch2002 at gmail.com) >
>>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:28 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> it also was 4.6.7 at one time. i doubt this project will
>>> please
>>>>>> everyone.
>>>>>>>>>> all we know is enable rehab purchased the wrights to 4.6.7
>>> from
>>>>>>>>>> fonix
>>>>>>>>>> and trying to use that with the 4.3 data files wasn't a
>>> good
>>> idea.
>>>>>>>>>> question is did this happen with other versions of
>>> dectalk?
>>> or
>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> this version?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Raymond Grote wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, but many people miss the old dectalk 4.3 days. I
>>> really
>>> never
>>>>>>>>>>> got into dectalk, but I can see why. That version of the
>>> synth
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> stilll do
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> have a special place together even though I was never a
>>> regular
>>>>>>>>>>> dectalk user. The major disappointment for many of us is
>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>> sound like that, it's worse, and to some of us it is
>>> unusable.
>>>>>>>>>>> From
>>>>>>>>>>> my understanding,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> someone had posted that the synth was supposed to sound
>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>> 4.6.4,
>>>>>>>>>>> then somewhere along the line it was changed to 4.3?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Brandon Misch
>>>>>>>>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 1:21 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> if this was fixed up, it could still be used as a sapi 5
>>> synth.
>>>>>>>>>>> that's all
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> it needs for it to be a screen reader voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 1:13 PM, <_johnnybrl at gmail.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com) > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>> cool just heard the demo. And yes it doesn't sound like
>>> 4.3
>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul voice sounds pretty cool.
>>>>>>>>>>>> And Frank doesn't sound too bad either. It kind of
>>> reminds
>>> me
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> the fonix talk demo. sounds almost like that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> And it sounds like this version of dectalk has more
>>> inflection
>>>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.3 did, which I like. I like lots of inflection in
>>> synthes,
>>>>>>>>>>>> makes
>>>>>>>>>>>> them sound
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> cool lol.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Back in high school, we had a computer with Jaws with a
>>> Dectalk
>>>>>>>>>>>> express hooked up to it, and I used to go in there and
>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dectalk
>>>>>>>>>>>> say things lol.
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Brandon Misch
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 9:52 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> if you read below our messages, you'll see a link to a
>>> file
>>> with
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> demo
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> inside. if you just want to use paul and a few others,
>>> it
>>> works
>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>> not for all voices.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 12:45 PM, <_johnnybrl at gmail.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com) > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hi, where did you guys get the audio samples of the
>>> sapi
>>> dectalk
>>>>>> from?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sounds like you guys have already heard it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Brandon Misch
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 9:37 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok some of the voices work while others don't. i can
>>> see
>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> meant by bad quality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 12:17 PM, _Dectalk at aol.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://pastorsnoopi.twigs76.com/music/SAPI%20DEMO.mp3_
>>>>>> (http://pastorsnoopi.twigs76.com/music/SAPI%20DEMO.mp3)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The above link is the sample that people wanted.
>>> Blake
>>> and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both told that there is no problem. Tell that to our
>>> ears.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (YUCK)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In a message dated 5/4/2011 11:16:00 A.M. Eastern
>>> Daylight
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Time,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _edbruckert at gmail.com_ (mailto:edbruckert at gmail.com)
>>> writes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All that means is what you are sent is not acceptable
>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be solved I promise at this point in my life I need it
>>> as
>>> much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anybody else
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 10:48 AM, <_Dectalk at aol.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com) > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brace yourselves because I don't think you guys will
>>> like
>>> it.
>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worst voice is Kit. I'd do the recording for you guys
>>> but I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really don't want to be linked with this pour Dectalk
>>> quality.
>>>>>> Have
>>>>>>>>> fun guys.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In a message dated 5/4/2011 9:10:14 A.M. Eastern
>>> Daylight
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Time,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _ratguy at insightbb.com_ (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com)
>>> writes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's a sample text. I assume you can use DECtalk
>>> commands in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> text? An
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MP3 of the 4.3 speak application performing this exact
>>> text can
>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> found at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://www.bluegrasspals.com/dt43sample.mp3_
>>>>>> (http://www.bluegrasspals.com/dt43sample.mp3)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now here's the text.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:phoneme on]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:ra 250]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello. This is the factory default Paul voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm talking now with this voice since this is what
>>> most
>>> people
>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably going to be using. Let's speed it up a bit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:ra 300]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is probably how Jayson's JFW would talk normally.
>>> Now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> let's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> put some intonation in there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:dv pr 250] [:dv sr 50]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, this is how Jayson used to listen to DECtalk
>>> back
>>> in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DOS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> days. With 4.3 and earlier, if you could get used to
>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you would over time, this sounds pretty good! It'd
>>> take
>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting used to again, not having had it for so long.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:ra 250]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The rest of this demo was created a few months ago to
>>> compair
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> test the various other factory voices and several
>>> custom
>>> voices
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different DECtalk versions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will now test the other voices.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nb] I'm Beautiful Betty, the default female voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nh] I'm Huge Harry.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nd] I'm Doctor Dennis.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nf] I'm Frail Frank.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nu] I'm Uppity Ursula.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nr] I'm Rough Rita.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nw] I'm Whispering Wendy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nk] and I'm Kit the Kid.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now I'll let the DECtalk manual describe us.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np] Perfect Paul Standard male voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nb] Beautiful Betty Standard female voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nh] Huge Harry Deep male voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nf] Frail Frank Older male voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nk] Kit the Kid Child's voice (about 10
>>> years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nr] Rough Rita Deep female voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nu] Uppity Ursula Light female voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nd] Doctor Dennis Breathy male voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nw] Whispering Wendy Whispery female voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, let's test a few custom voices.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nf] [:dv br 0 la 0 sr 100 hr 100 ap 150 pr 95] [:ra
>>> 220] This
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the voice of Rimmer from Red Dwarf.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lister, we are being tested! I don't know what to do!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nf] [:ra 240] [:dv br 0 hs 95 ap 100 as 100 pr 220
>>> hr
>>> 30 sr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 30]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is Lister.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rimmer! Come over here and help me with this new
>>> speech
>>>>>> synthesizer!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv as 0 bf 0 la 20 nf 00 ri 100 sm 0 hr 0 sr
>>> 0]
>>> [:ra
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 220]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is Holly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is an important announcement. All persons aboard
>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ship
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are to report to the voice calibration office at once.
>>> That is
>>>>>> all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv br 100 lx 100 bf 100 hr 100 sr 100 as 100
>>> qu
>>> 100 ap
>>>>>> 110
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pr 150 sx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 la 0] [:ra 210] This is the voice of the toaster.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know where this voice calibration office is.
>>> Does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want some toast?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv sm 1 hs 90 br 0 ri 0 la 0] [:ra 250] I'm
>>> the
>>> cat.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who says my voice needs to be calibrated? I want
>>> fishies!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nd] [:dv as 0 bf 0 la 20 nf 00 ri 100 hr 0 sr 0]
>>> [:ra
>>> 220]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Queeg 500.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> None of you have any credit, so you may not use the
>>> voice
>>>>>> calibrator.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nu] [:dv as 1 bf 10 la 30 nf 10 ri 100 sm 50 hr 100
>>> sr
>>> 20 ap
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 130] [:ra 240] I'm the newer voice of Holly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm picking something up. It's another ship. Its name
>>> is
>>> Deck
>>>>>> Talk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or something very close. They have been conducting an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experiment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on us all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time. That would explain why we've been saying all
>>> these
>>> silly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knew I was having trouble finding a record of any
>>> voice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> calibration office on Red Dwarf.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Corine Bickley" <_corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu_
>>>>>> (mailto:corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 7:02 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HI Jayson,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will do that. Could you suggest some sample
>>> sentences
>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> synthesize?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We're trying to find a way to put a "demo play"
>>> button
>>> on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Enable website so people can type in any text they'd
>>> like to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hear, but our programmer hasn't been able to spend
>>> time
>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> project right now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Jayson Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <_ratguy at insightbb.com_ (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com)
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have any audio samples you could share? Maybe
>>> I
>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> elaborate on what people don't like. I pretty much
>>> know
>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.3 sounds like.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jayson
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Corine Bickley"
>>> <_corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu_
>>>>>> (mailto:corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions"
>>> <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 7:53 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i meant - i can't hear the differences, not being
>>> so
>>> attuned
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the various DT versions. i can hear ok, but i'm
>>> not
>>> clear
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the differences in quality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Jayson Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <_ratguy at insightbb.com_
>>> (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wo, you actually got 4.3 working with SAPI? What
>>> kind
>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quality problems are there?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Corine Bickley"
>>> <_corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu_
>>>>>> (mailto:corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions"
>>> <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:14 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still waiting for one of the "old" (not
>>> chronologically,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just in terms of contact with DT) to send some
>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> versions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for testing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.3 and 4.67 work in SAPI fine but preliminary
>>> listening
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> results indicate dissatisfaction.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Jayson Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <_ratguy at insightbb.com_
>>> (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, it's broken record time. Anything new
>>> going
>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the SAPI DECtalk?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Haven't heard anything in a while.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jayson
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
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>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
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>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> ----------
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ____________________________________
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ____________________________________
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ____________________________________
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
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