[DECtalk] Any news?
Brandon Misch
bmisch2002 at gmail.com
Thu May 5 22:53:26 EDT 2011
regardless i'm sure people will buy this if nothing more, this is still a good product if you want to use it with a screen reader and like using paul.
On May 5, 2011, at 9:52 PM, Alex H. wrote:
> I was also under the impression that the testers were supposed to give
> feedback about the project and so on, but when they did, they got
> nothing but snide remarks that it's the same, "you don't know what
> you're talking about," etc. That sort of thing is just not cool,
> seeing as you're supposed to sell this! I hope nobody buys this just
> to proove the point that this is just not even close to being ready
> for any type of release!
>
> But I suppose, at this rate we're just screaming at the wind and
> nothing will change.
>
> Alex
>
>
>
> On 5/5/11, Raymond Grote <musicalman1 at comcast.net> wrote:
>> I'm pretty sure it will. The least we can do is not buy it and discourage
>> others from using it, unless they decide to make a change. I am hoping they
>> will, but I'm very sure they won't.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Brandon Misch
>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 9:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>
>>
>> sounds like it's going to be released no matter what and even if some on
>> this list want it scrapped it looks like this will be released.
>>
>>
>> On May 5, 2011, at 7:35 PM, Dectalk at aol.com wrote:
>>
>>
>> Bingo! That's why it would be better to scrap it. If released as is,
>> it messes with a dead man's life long reputation. I'm sick over this!
>>
>>
>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>
>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 7:21:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> ratguy at insightbb.com writes:
>> What's worse is that, if this gets released in its current state, any
>> good
>> name DECtalk may have had will get tarnished. We all thought Force did
>> horrible things with it. Now this! Someone who sees that a SAPI
>> version of
>> DECtalk is available is likely to get excited if they know what
>> DECtalk is.
>> When they put down their bucks to actually buy the thing, I hate to
>> even
>> think what the reactions will be. This is ridiculous, and an insult to
>> Dennis Klatt.
>> Someone who just wants a SAPI synth who has no idea what DECtalk is
>> might
>> find the Paul voice acceptable. It sounds like an old guy, which is
>> certainly *not!* how it's supposed to sound. But I'd love to tell such
>> a
>> person to type [:nu] and see what happens after that.
>> Jayson
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Alex H." <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 7:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>
>>
>>> I guess they're just tired of hearing that something's wrong? Sounds
>>> like a give-up stratagy to me. Funny thing is, probably nobody will
>>> buy this unless they want to just use Paul or enjoy the sounds of
>>> clipping mutated DECTalks or something.
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
>>> On 5/5/11, Jayson Smith <ratguy at insightbb.com> wrote:
>>>> What the? This product, as we've seen it, is absolutely nowhere
>> near
>>>> ready
>>>> for release. It has several obvious bugs. One of the more crippling
>> and
>>>> totally ridiculous in my opinion is that some of the factory
>> default
>>>> voices
>>>> are virtually unusable because their parameters are incorrect.
>> Factory
>>>> voices, mind you. Not something some user has messed around with
>> and
>>>> screwed
>>>> up. Default voices, which are supposed to be usable. Sigh.
>>>> Jayson
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: <Dectalk at aol.com>
>>>> To: <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 6:54 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Ugh! I just got word. The programmer won't be allowed to join
>> and
>>>>> they're doing an "As is" release. (SIGH)
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't write any more.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 4:40:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>>> bmisch2002 at gmail.com writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> I see. hope that this project gets fixed soon.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 5, 2011, at 4:12 PM, _Dectalk at aol.com_
>> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Just so everyone knows, I'm not talking about Ed at all. It's
>> someone
>>>>> else and I've been instructed not to post the name. Actually
>> I've been
>>>>> told
>>>>> to stop writing about the programmer. But just to be clear, it's
>> not
>>>>> Ed,
>>>>> it's someone else.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 3:54:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>>> _musicalman1 at comcast.net_ (mailto:musicalman1 at comcast.net)
>> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> Very understandable. I did too, after hearing what you were told.
>> I
>>>>> really
>>>>> hoep we can get him on this list and see what comes out of it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: _Dectalk at aol.com_ (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
>>>>> To: _dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 3:44 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe if we all ask nicely, someone who knows the programmer will
>> get
>>>>> that
>>>>> person on here. I just might not post anything if this person
>> does
>>>>> show
>>>>> up. After all, I got told I don't know what I'm talking about.
>>>>>
>>>>> This person is smart, I just needed to vent. I work out of a
>> bedroom,
>>>>> I'm
>>>>> kind of trapped here because the house is not wheelchair
>> accessible,
>>>>> and
>>>>> after I was told I didn't know what I was talking about, I needed
>> to
>>>>> vent.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 3:32:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>>> _musicalman1 at comcast.net_ (mailto:musicalman1 at comcast.net)
>> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to chat with him at some point and help him out if I
>> could.
>>>>> I'm
>>>>> sure some of us would too. Some changes really need to be made.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: _Dectalk at aol.com_ (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
>>>>> To: _dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 2:57 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have total faith in this list! We all know what we're doing,
>> so lets
>>>>> work together and come up with something for this programmer. I
>> know
>>>>> this
>>>>> person is doing their best, but this is guess work. Maybe we can
>> take
>>>>> some
>>>>> of the guessing out of it? Lets show this person we know our
>> stuff!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 2:47:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>>> _musicalman1 at comcast.net_ (mailto:musicalman1 at comcast.net)
>> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think it's much use. As I have been saying, someone has
>> messsed
>>>>> up
>>>>> because of lack of knowledge, and is being rather stubborn about
>>>>> admitting
>>>>> that something needs fixed.
>>>>> If we as a list could somehow make it work, I'd say this thing
>> would be
>>>>> turning a whole new direction. For now we can only provide
>> feedback and
>>>>> test.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: _Brandon Misch_ (mailto:bmisch2002 at gmail.com)
>>>>> To: _DECtalk Discussions_ (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 8:28 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> i see where you're coming from. have you shown the programmers
>> other
>>>>> samples like 4.61 etc? maybe you can show them voices like betty
>> so
>>>>> they
>>>>> can see
>>>>> where the loud pops are coming from.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 5, 2011, at 5:59 AM, _Dectalk at aol.com_
>> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem is, Blake and I have done that. We sent a sample of
>>>>> version
>>>>> 4.40 to the head programmer to show how things should sound. We
>> got an
>>>>> e-mail back saying our version sounded corrupted. This person
>> actually
>>>>> said
>>>>> that Whispering Wendy shouldn't be whispering. Hello, why does
>> this
>>>>> person
>>>>> think the name is "Whispering Wendy"?
>>>>>
>>>>> It is totally clear to Blake and I that this person doesn't know
>>>>> Dectalk.
>>>>> And if version 4.40 is viewed as corrupted, there is no hope if
>> getting
>>>>> anything right.
>>>>>
>>>>> So because of this, I'm hoping the project gets scrapped because
>> this
>>>>> is
>>>>> becoming in insult to Dennis Klatt.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 12:31:35 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>>> _bmisch2002 at gmail.com_ (mailto:bmisch2002 at gmail.com) writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> maybe you should send the demo file over to the guys so they
>> could hear
>>>>> that and how the other voices sound.
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 10:10 PM, Alex H. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I wouldn't give up just yet. All they need to do is convince
>> this guy
>>>>>> that he's wrong and there is a huge, huge difference in this
>> version
>>>>>> and the real 4.3 version. This new stuff reminds me of a early
>> age
>>>>>> FonixTalk or something with a lot of excess nasal tones.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/4/11, _johnnybrl at gmail.com_ (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com)
>>>>> <_johnnybrl at gmail.com_ (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com) > wrote:
>>>>>>> Well, since it looks like there won't be a Sapi Dectalk, guess
>> it's
>>>>> time to
>>>>>>> look at Neospeech voices or ivona voices. It's too bad the
>> head
>>>>> programer
>>>>>>> can't tell the difference between the Dectalk 4.6 and Dectalk
>> 4.3
>>>>> versions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> O well, was really looking forward to a Sapi version of
>> Dectalk.
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Blake Roberts" <_beroberts at hughes.net_
>>>>> (mailto:beroberts at hughes.net) >
>>>>>>> To: "'DECtalk Discussions'" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 2:06 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Alex for being the latest list member to point out need
>> for
>>>>>>>> improvement. I agree with you that there are clipping/
>> drop-out
>>>>> issues.
>>>>>>>> Additionally, I agree the SAPI Dectalk referred to as 4.3 is
>> unlike
>>>>> any
>>>>>>>> version of Dectalk I have ever heard. I, too, am unwilling to
>> give
>>>>>>>> up
>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> SAPI Dectalk.
>>>>>>>> Blake
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: _dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>> (mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>> [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Alex
>> H.
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:59 PM
>>>>>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just heard the demo, and.... Well, I agree with Snoopi, it's
>>>>>>>> terrible.
>>>>>>>> I don't know who was telling you that nothing's wrong, but
>> this
>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>> sound even remotely like any DECTalk version I've heard.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That being said, the Huge Harry voice is kinda cool, but yeah
>>>>>>>> there's
>>>>> some
>>>>>>>> issues with clipping and dropouts in the voices, especially
>> with
>>>>> Ursula
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> Rita.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't think we should give up quite yet though, good things
>> come
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>> who wait. Giving up on this would mean that I and other users
>> of
>>>>>>>> NVDA
>>>>>>>> wouldn't be able to enjoy DECTalk's great speech.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/4/11, Jayson Smith <_ratguy at insightbb.com_
>>>>> (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) > wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> One clarification. From what I understand, Enable didn't
>> purchase
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> rights to any DECtalk version. They only have the right to
>> sell,
>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> full copyright. As I understand it, the copyright of DECtalk
>> is
>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>> held by Fonix. I could be wrong though, I'm no lawyer.
>>>>>>>>> Jayson
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Brandon Misch" <_bmisch2002 at gmail.com_
>>>>> (mailto:bmisch2002 at gmail.com) >
>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:28 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> it also was 4.6.7 at one time. i doubt this project will
>> please
>>>>> everyone.
>>>>>>>>> all we know is enable rehab purchased the wrights to 4.6.7
>> from
>>>>>>>>> fonix
>>>>>>>>> and trying to use that with the 4.3 data files wasn't a good
>> idea.
>>>>>>>>> question is did this happen with other versions of dectalk?
>> or
>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> this version?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Raymond Grote wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, but many people miss the old dectalk 4.3 days. I really
>> never
>>>>>>>>>> got into dectalk, but I can see why. That version of the
>> synth
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> stilll do
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> have a special place together even though I was never a
>> regular
>>>>>>>>>> dectalk user. The major disappointment for many of us is it
>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>> sound like that, it's worse, and to some of us it is
>> unusable.
>>>>>>>>>> From
>>>>>>>>>> my understanding,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> someone had posted that the synth was supposed to sound like
>>>>>>>>>> 4.6.4,
>>>>>>>>>> then somewhere along the line it was changed to 4.3?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> From: Brandon Misch
>>>>>>>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 1:21 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> if this was fixed up, it could still be used as a sapi 5
>> synth.
>>>>>>>>>> that's all
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> it needs for it to be a screen reader voice.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 1:13 PM, <_johnnybrl at gmail.com_
>>>>> (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com) > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>> cool just heard the demo. And yes it doesn't sound like 4.3
>> but
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> Paul voice sounds pretty cool.
>>>>>>>>>>> And Frank doesn't sound too bad either. It kind of reminds
>> me
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> the fonix talk demo. sounds almost like that.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And it sounds like this version of dectalk has more
>> inflection
>>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>> 4.3 did, which I like. I like lots of inflection in
>> synthes,
>>>>>>>>>>> makes
>>>>>>>>>>> them sound
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> cool lol.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Back in high school, we had a computer with Jaws with a
>> Dectalk
>>>>>>>>>>> express hooked up to it, and I used to go in there and make
>>>>>>>>>>> Dectalk
>>>>>>>>>>> say things lol.
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Brandon Misch
>>>>>>>>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 9:52 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> if you read below our messages, you'll see a link to a file
>> with
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> demo
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> inside. if you just want to use paul and a few others, it
>> works
>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>> not for all voices.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 12:45 PM, <_johnnybrl at gmail.com_
>>>>> (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com) > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> hi, where did you guys get the audio samples of the sapi
>> dectalk
>>>>> from?
>>>>>>>>>>>> sounds like you guys have already heard it.
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Brandon Misch
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 9:37 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ok some of the voices work while others don't. i can see
>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>> meant by bad quality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 12:17 PM, _Dectalk at aol.com_
>>>>> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://pastorsnoopi.twigs76.com/music/SAPI%20DEMO.mp3_
>>>>> (http://pastorsnoopi.twigs76.com/music/SAPI%20DEMO.mp3)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The above link is the sample that people wanted. Blake
>> and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> both told that there is no problem. Tell that to our
>> ears.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (YUCK)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In a message dated 5/4/2011 11:16:00 A.M. Eastern
>> Daylight
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Time,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> _edbruckert at gmail.com_ (mailto:edbruckert at gmail.com)
>> writes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> All that means is what you are sent is not acceptable
>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> worry
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be solved I promise at this point in my life I need it as
>> much
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> anybody else
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 10:48 AM, <_Dectalk at aol.com_
>>>>> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com) > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brace yourselves because I don't think you guys will like
>> it.
>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> worst voice is Kit. I'd do the recording for you guys
>> but I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> really don't want to be linked with this pour Dectalk
>> quality.
>>>>> Have
>>>>>>>> fun guys.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In a message dated 5/4/2011 9:10:14 A.M. Eastern Daylight
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Time,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> _ratguy at insightbb.com_ (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com)
>> writes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's a sample text. I assume you can use DECtalk
>> commands in
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> text? An
>>>>>>>>>>>>> MP3 of the 4.3 speak application performing this exact
>> text can
>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> found at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://www.bluegrasspals.com/dt43sample.mp3_
>>>>> (http://www.bluegrasspals.com/dt43sample.mp3)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now here's the text.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:phoneme on]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:ra 250]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello. This is the factory default Paul voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm talking now with this voice since this is what most
>> people
>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably going to be using. Let's speed it up a bit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:ra 300]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is probably how Jayson's JFW would talk normally.
>> Now
>>>>>>>>>>>>> let's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> put some intonation in there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:dv pr 250] [:dv sr 50]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, this is how Jayson used to listen to DECtalk back
>> in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> good old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> DOS
>>>>>>>>>>>>> days. With 4.3 and earlier, if you could get used to this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you would over time, this sounds pretty good! It'd take
>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting used to again, not having had it for so long.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:ra 250]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The rest of this demo was created a few months ago to
>> compair
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> test the various other factory voices and several custom
>> voices
>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> different DECtalk versions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will now test the other voices.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nb] I'm Beautiful Betty, the default female voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nh] I'm Huge Harry.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nd] I'm Doctor Dennis.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nf] I'm Frail Frank.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nu] I'm Uppity Ursula.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nr] I'm Rough Rita.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nw] I'm Whispering Wendy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nk] and I'm Kit the Kid.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now I'll let the DECtalk manual describe us.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np] Perfect Paul Standard male voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nb] Beautiful Betty Standard female voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nh] Huge Harry Deep male voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nf] Frail Frank Older male voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nk] Kit the Kid Child's voice (about 10 years
>>>>>>>>>>>>> old).
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nr] Rough Rita Deep female voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nu] Uppity Ursula Light female voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nd] Doctor Dennis Breathy male voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nw] Whispering Wendy Whispery female voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, let's test a few custom voices.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nf] [:dv br 0 la 0 sr 100 hr 100 ap 150 pr 95] [:ra
>> 220] This
>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the voice of Rimmer from Red Dwarf.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lister, we are being tested! I don't know what to do!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nf] [:ra 240] [:dv br 0 hs 95 ap 100 as 100 pr 220 hr
>> 30 sr
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 30]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is Lister.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rimmer! Come over here and help me with this new speech
>>>>> synthesizer!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv as 0 bf 0 la 20 nf 00 ri 100 sm 0 hr 0 sr 0]
>> [:ra
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 220]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is Holly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is an important announcement. All persons aboard
>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ship
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are to report to the voice calibration office at once.
>> That is
>>>>> all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv br 100 lx 100 bf 100 hr 100 sr 100 as 100 qu
>> 100 ap
>>>>> 110
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pr 150 sx
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 la 0] [:ra 210] This is the voice of the toaster.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know where this voice calibration office is. Does
>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>> want some toast?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv sm 1 hs 90 br 0 ri 0 la 0] [:ra 250] I'm the
>> cat.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who says my voice needs to be calibrated? I want
>> fishies!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nd] [:dv as 0 bf 0 la 20 nf 00 ri 100 hr 0 sr 0] [:ra
>> 220]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Queeg 500.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> None of you have any credit, so you may not use the voice
>>>>> calibrator.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nu] [:dv as 1 bf 10 la 30 nf 10 ri 100 sm 50 hr 100 sr
>> 20 ap
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 130] [:ra 240] I'm the newer voice of Holly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm picking something up. It's another ship. Its name is
>> Deck
>>>>> Talk
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or something very close. They have been conducting an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> experiment
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on us all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> time. That would explain why we've been saying all these
>> silly
>>>>>>>>>>>>> things.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> knew I was having trouble finding a record of any voice
>>>>>>>>>>>>> calibration office on Red Dwarf.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Corine Bickley" <_corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu_
>>>>> (mailto:corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 7:02 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HI Jayson,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will do that. Could you suggest some sample sentences
>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> synthesize?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We're trying to find a way to put a "demo play" button
>> on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Enable website so people can type in any text they'd
>> like to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hear, but our programmer hasn't been able to spend time
>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> project right now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Jayson Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <_ratguy at insightbb.com_ (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have any audio samples you could share? Maybe I
>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> elaborate on what people don't like. I pretty much know
>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.3 sounds like.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jayson
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Corine Bickley" <_corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu_
>>>>> (mailto:corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 7:53 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i meant - i can't hear the differences, not being so
>> attuned
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the various DT versions. i can hear ok, but i'm not
>> clear
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the differences in quality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Jayson Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <_ratguy at insightbb.com_ (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wo, you actually got 4.3 working with SAPI? What kind
>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quality problems are there?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Corine Bickley"
>> <_corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu_
>>>>> (mailto:corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions"
>> <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:14 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still waiting for one of the "old" (not
>> chronologically,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just in terms of contact with DT) to send some more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> versions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for testing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.3 and 4.67 work in SAPI fine but preliminary
>> listening
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> results indicate dissatisfaction.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Jayson Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <_ratguy at insightbb.com_
>> (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, it's broken record time. Anything new going
>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the SAPI DECtalk?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Haven't heard anything in a while.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jayson
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
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>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
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