[DECtalk] Any news?
Raymond Grote
musicalman1 at comcast.net
Thu May 5 22:24:15 EDT 2011
It knows its time is up. Lol.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex H." <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
> Lol! Tried that, yep, it's a E-flat then drops to a C with a little sigh.
>
> It's tired of sounding like crap so it sighs lol
>
> Alex
>
> On 5/5/11, Raymond Grote <musicalman1 at comcast.net> wrote:
>> And, I was able to make rather amusing sounds by putting one note in for
>> singing. I put in a low c, and instead of being a low c, it was like a
>> sigh
>> of satisfaction. It started at an e, went down to a d, then got breathy
>> and
>> ended. I can clarify if needed. Maybe post a sample and the code I used.
>> But
>> it was funny.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Alex H." <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 9:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>
>>
>>>I was also under the impression that the testers were supposed to give
>>> feedback about the project and so on, but when they did, they got
>>> nothing but snide remarks that it's the same, "you don't know what
>>> you're talking about," etc. That sort of thing is just not cool,
>>> seeing as you're supposed to sell this! I hope nobody buys this just
>>> to proove the point that this is just not even close to being ready
>>> for any type of release!
>>>
>>> But I suppose, at this rate we're just screaming at the wind and
>>> nothing will change.
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/5/11, Raymond Grote <musicalman1 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> I'm pretty sure it will. The least we can do is not buy it and
>>>> discourage
>>>> others from using it, unless they decide to make a change. I am hoping
>>>> they
>>>> will, but I'm very sure they won't.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Brandon Misch
>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 9:22 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> sounds like it's going to be released no matter what and even if some
>>>> on
>>>> this list want it scrapped it looks like this will be released.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 5, 2011, at 7:35 PM, Dectalk at aol.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bingo! That's why it would be better to scrap it. If released as
>>>> is,
>>>> it messes with a dead man's life long reputation. I'm sick over this!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>
>>>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 7:21:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>> ratguy at insightbb.com writes:
>>>> What's worse is that, if this gets released in its current state,
>>>> any
>>>> good
>>>> name DECtalk may have had will get tarnished. We all thought
>>>> Force
>>>> did
>>>> horrible things with it. Now this! Someone who sees that a SAPI
>>>> version of
>>>> DECtalk is available is likely to get excited if they know what
>>>> DECtalk is.
>>>> When they put down their bucks to actually buy the thing, I hate
>>>> to
>>>> even
>>>> think what the reactions will be. This is ridiculous, and an
>>>> insult
>>>>
>>>> to
>>>> Dennis Klatt.
>>>> Someone who just wants a SAPI synth who has no idea what DECtalk
>>>> is
>>>> might
>>>> find the Paul voice acceptable. It sounds like an old guy, which
>>>> is
>>>> certainly *not!* how it's supposed to sound. But I'd love to tell
>>>> such
>>>> a
>>>> person to type [:nu] and see what happens after that.
>>>> Jayson
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Alex H." <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 7:14 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >I guess they're just tired of hearing that something's wrong?
>>>> Sounds
>>>> > like a give-up stratagy to me. Funny thing is, probably nobody
>>>> will
>>>> > buy this unless they want to just use Paul or enjoy the sounds
>>>> of
>>>> > clipping mutated DECTalks or something.
>>>> >
>>>> > Alex
>>>> >
>>>> > On 5/5/11, Jayson Smith <ratguy at insightbb.com> wrote:
>>>> >> What the? This product, as we've seen it, is absolutely
>>>> nowhere
>>>> near
>>>> >> ready
>>>> >> for release. It has several obvious bugs. One of the more
>>>> crippling
>>>> and
>>>> >> totally ridiculous in my opinion is that some of the factory
>>>> default
>>>> >> voices
>>>> >> are virtually unusable because their parameters are incorrect.
>>>> Factory
>>>> >> voices, mind you. Not something some user has messed around
>>>> with
>>>> and
>>>> >> screwed
>>>> >> up. Default voices, which are supposed to be usable. Sigh.
>>>> >> Jayson
>>>> >>
>>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >> From: <Dectalk at aol.com>
>>>> >> To: <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>> >> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 6:54 PM
>>>> >> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> Ugh! I just got word. The programmer won't be allowed to
>>>> join
>>>> and
>>>> >>> they're doing an "As is" release. (SIGH)
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I can't write any more.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 4:40:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight
>>>> Time,
>>>> >>> bmisch2002 at gmail.com writes:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I see. hope that this project gets fixed soon.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On May 5, 2011, at 4:12 PM, _Dectalk at aol.com_
>>>> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Just so everyone knows, I'm not talking about Ed at all.
>>>> It's
>>>> someone
>>>> >>> else and I've been instructed not to post the name.
>>>> Actually
>>>> I've been
>>>> >>> told
>>>> >>> to stop writing about the programmer. But just to be clear,
>>>> it's
>>>> not
>>>> >>> Ed,
>>>> >>> it's someone else.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 3:54:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight
>>>> Time,
>>>> >>> _musicalman1 at comcast.net_ (mailto:musicalman1 at comcast.net)
>>>> writes:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Very understandable. I did too, after hearing what you were
>>>> told.
>>>> I
>>>> >>> really
>>>> >>> hoep we can get him on this list and see what comes out of
>>>> it.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >>> From: _Dectalk at aol.com_ (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
>>>> >>> To: _dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>> >>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 3:44 PM
>>>> >>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Maybe if we all ask nicely, someone who knows the programmer
>>>> will
>>>> get
>>>> >>> that
>>>> >>> person on here. I just might not post anything if this
>>>> person
>>>> does
>>>> >>> show
>>>> >>> up. After all, I got told I don't know what I'm talking
>>>> about.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> This person is smart, I just needed to vent. I work out of
>>>> a
>>>> bedroom,
>>>> >>> I'm
>>>> >>> kind of trapped here because the house is not wheelchair
>>>> accessible,
>>>> >>> and
>>>> >>> after I was told I didn't know what I was talking about, I
>>>> needed
>>>> to
>>>> >>> vent.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 3:32:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight
>>>> Time,
>>>> >>> _musicalman1 at comcast.net_ (mailto:musicalman1 at comcast.net)
>>>> writes:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I'd like to chat with him at some point and help him out if
>>>> I
>>>> could.
>>>> >>> I'm
>>>> >>> sure some of us would too. Some changes really need to be
>>>> made.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >>> From: _Dectalk at aol.com_ (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
>>>> >>> To: _dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>> >>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 2:57 PM
>>>> >>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I have total faith in this list! We all know what we're
>>>> doing,
>>>> so lets
>>>> >>> work together and come up with something for this
>>>> programmer.
>>>> I
>>>> know
>>>> >>> this
>>>> >>> person is doing their best, but this is guess work. Maybe
>>>> we
>>>> can
>>>> take
>>>> >>> some
>>>> >>> of the guessing out of it? Lets show this person we know
>>>> our
>>>> stuff!
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 2:47:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight
>>>> Time,
>>>> >>> _musicalman1 at comcast.net_ (mailto:musicalman1 at comcast.net)
>>>> writes:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I don't think it's much use. As I have been saying, someone
>>>> has
>>>> messsed
>>>> >>> up
>>>> >>> because of lack of knowledge, and is being rather stubborn
>>>> about
>>>> >>> admitting
>>>> >>> that something needs fixed.
>>>> >>> If we as a list could somehow make it work, I'd say this
>>>> thing
>>>> would be
>>>> >>> turning a whole new direction. For now we can only provide
>>>> feedback and
>>>> >>> test.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >>> From: _Brandon Misch_ (mailto:bmisch2002 at gmail.com)
>>>> >>> To: _DECtalk Discussions_ (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>> >>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 8:28 AM
>>>> >>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> i see where you're coming from. have you shown the
>>>> programmers
>>>> other
>>>> >>> samples like 4.61 etc? maybe you can show them voices like
>>>> betty
>>>> so
>>>> >>> they
>>>> >>> can see
>>>> >>> where the loud pops are coming from.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On May 5, 2011, at 5:59 AM, _Dectalk at aol.com_
>>>> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> The problem is, Blake and I have done that. We sent a
>>>> sample
>>>> of
>>>> >>> version
>>>> >>> 4.40 to the head programmer to show how things should sound.
>>>> We
>>>> got an
>>>> >>> e-mail back saying our version sounded corrupted. This
>>>> person
>>>> actually
>>>> >>> said
>>>> >>> that Whispering Wendy shouldn't be whispering. Hello, why
>>>> does
>>>> this
>>>> >>> person
>>>> >>> think the name is "Whispering Wendy"?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> It is totally clear to Blake and I that this person doesn't
>>>> know
>>>> >>> Dectalk.
>>>> >>> And if version 4.40 is viewed as corrupted, there is no hope
>>>> if
>>>> getting
>>>> >>> anything right.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> So because of this, I'm hoping the project gets scrapped
>>>> because
>>>> this
>>>> >>> is
>>>> >>> becoming in insult to Dennis Klatt.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 12:31:35 A.M. Eastern Daylight
>>>> Time,
>>>> >>> _bmisch2002 at gmail.com_ (mailto:bmisch2002 at gmail.com)
>>>> writes:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> maybe you should send the demo file over to the guys so they
>>>> could hear
>>>> >>> that and how the other voices sound.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On May 4, 2011, at 10:10 PM, Alex H. wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> I wouldn't give up just yet. All they need to do is
>>>> convince
>>>> this guy
>>>> >>>> that he's wrong and there is a huge, huge difference in
>>>> this
>>>> version
>>>> >>>> and the real 4.3 version. This new stuff reminds me of a
>>>> early
>>>> age
>>>> >>>> FonixTalk or something with a lot of excess nasal tones.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Alex
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> On 5/4/11, _johnnybrl at gmail.com_
>>>> (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com)
>>>> >>> <_johnnybrl at gmail.com_ (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com) > wrote:
>>>> >>>>> Well, since it looks like there won't be a Sapi Dectalk,
>>>> guess
>>>> it's
>>>> >>> time to
>>>> >>>>> look at Neospeech voices or ivona voices. It's too bad
>>>> the
>>>> head
>>>> >>> programer
>>>> >>>>> can't tell the difference between the Dectalk 4.6 and
>>>> Dectalk
>>>> 4.3
>>>> >>> versions.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> O well, was really looking forward to a Sapi version of
>>>> Dectalk.
>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >>>>> From: "Blake Roberts" <_beroberts at hughes.net_
>>>> >>> (mailto:beroberts at hughes.net) >
>>>> >>>>> To: "'DECtalk Discussions'" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>> >>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 2:06 PM
>>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Alex for being the latest list member to point out
>>>> need
>>>> for
>>>> >>>>>> improvement. I agree with you that there are clipping/
>>>> drop-out
>>>> >>> issues.
>>>> >>>>>> Additionally, I agree the SAPI Dectalk referred to as
>>>> 4.3
>>>> is
>>>> unlike
>>>> >>> any
>>>> >>>>>> version of Dectalk I have ever heard. I, too, am
>>>> unwilling
>>>> to
>>>> give
>>>> >>>>>> up
>>>> >>> on
>>>> >>>>>> SAPI Dectalk.
>>>> >>>>>> Blake
>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> >>>>>> From: _dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>> >>> (mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>> >>>>>> [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of
>>>> Alex
>>>> H.
>>>> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:59 PM
>>>> >>>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Just heard the demo, and.... Well, I agree with Snoopi,
>>>> it's
>>>> >>>>>> terrible.
>>>> >>>>>> I don't know who was telling you that nothing's wrong,
>>>> but
>>>> this
>>>> >>> doesn't
>>>> >>>>>> sound even remotely like any DECTalk version I've heard.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> That being said, the Huge Harry voice is kinda cool, but
>>>> yeah
>>>> >>>>>> there's
>>>> >>> some
>>>> >>>>>> issues with clipping and dropouts in the voices,
>>>> especially
>>>> with
>>>> >>> Ursula
>>>> >>>>>> and
>>>> >>>>>> Rita.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> I don't think we should give up quite yet though, good
>>>> things
>>>> come
>>>> >>>>>> to
>>>> >>>>>> those
>>>> >>>>>> who wait. Giving up on this would mean that I and other
>>>> users
>>>> of
>>>> >>>>>> NVDA
>>>> >>>>>> wouldn't be able to enjoy DECTalk's great speech.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Alex
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> On 5/4/11, Jayson Smith <_ratguy at insightbb.com_
>>>> >>> (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) > wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>> Hi,
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> One clarification. From what I understand, Enable didn't
>>>> purchase
>>>> >>>>>>> the
>>>> >>>>>>> rights to any DECtalk version. They only have the right
>>>> to
>>>> sell,
>>>> >>>>>>> not
>>>> >>>>>>> full copyright. As I understand it, the copyright of
>>>> DECtalk
>>>> is
>>>> >>>>>>> still
>>>> >>>>>>> held by Fonix. I could be wrong though, I'm no lawyer.
>>>> >>>>>>> Jayson
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >>>>>>> From: "Brandon Misch" <_bmisch2002 at gmail.com_
>>>> >>> (mailto:bmisch2002 at gmail.com) >
>>>> >>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>> >>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>> >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:28 PM
>>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> it also was 4.6.7 at one time. i doubt this project will
>>>> please
>>>> >>> everyone.
>>>> >>>>>>> all we know is enable rehab purchased the wrights to
>>>> 4.6.7
>>>> from
>>>> >>>>>>> fonix
>>>> >>>>>>> and trying to use that with the 4.3 data files wasn't a
>>>> good
>>>> idea.
>>>> >>>>>>> question is did this happen with other versions of
>>>> dectalk?
>>>> or
>>>> >>>>>>> just
>>>> >>> with
>>>> >>>>>> this version?
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Raymond Grote wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, but many people miss the old dectalk 4.3 days. I
>>>> really
>>>> never
>>>> >>>>>>>> got into dectalk, but I can see why. That version of
>>>> the
>>>> synth
>>>> >>>>>>>> and
>>>> >>>>>>>> I
>>>> >>>>>>>> stilll do
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> have a special place together even though I was never a
>>>> regular
>>>> >>>>>>>> dectalk user. The major disappointment for many of us
>>>> is
>>>> it
>>>> >>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>> >>>>>>>> sound like that, it's worse, and to some of us it is
>>>> unusable.
>>>> >>>>>>>> From
>>>> >>>>>>>> my understanding,
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> someone had posted that the synth was supposed to sound
>>>> like
>>>> >>>>>>>> 4.6.4,
>>>> >>>>>>>> then somewhere along the line it was changed to 4.3?
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >>>>>>>> From: Brandon Misch
>>>> >>>>>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 1:21 PM
>>>> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> if this was fixed up, it could still be used as a sapi
>>>> 5
>>>> synth.
>>>> >>>>>>>> that's all
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> it needs for it to be a screen reader voice.
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 1:13 PM, <_johnnybrl at gmail.com_
>>>> >>> (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com) > wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >>>>>>>>> cool just heard the demo. And yes it doesn't sound
>>>> like
>>>> 4.3
>>>> but
>>>> >>>>>>>>> the
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Paul voice sounds pretty cool.
>>>> >>>>>>>>> And Frank doesn't sound too bad either. It kind of
>>>> reminds
>>>> me
>>>> >>>>>>>>> of
>>>> >>>>>>>>> the fonix talk demo. sounds almost like that.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> And it sounds like this version of dectalk has more
>>>> inflection
>>>> >>>>>>>>> than
>>>> >>>>>>>>> 4.3 did, which I like. I like lots of inflection in
>>>> synthes,
>>>> >>>>>>>>> makes
>>>> >>>>>>>>> them sound
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> cool lol.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Back in high school, we had a computer with Jaws with
>>>> a
>>>> Dectalk
>>>> >>>>>>>>> express hooked up to it, and I used to go in there and
>>>> make
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dectalk
>>>> >>>>>>>>> say things lol.
>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: Brandon Misch
>>>> >>>>>>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 9:52 AM
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> if you read below our messages, you'll see a link to a
>>>> file
>>>> with
>>>> >>> the
>>>> >>>>>>>>> demo
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> inside. if you just want to use paul and a few others,
>>>> it
>>>> works
>>>> >>>>>>>>> but
>>>> >>>>>>>>> not for all voices.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 12:45 PM, <_johnnybrl at gmail.com_
>>>> >>> (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com) > wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> hi, where did you guys get the audio samples of the
>>>> sapi
>>>> dectalk
>>>> >>> from?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> sounds like you guys have already heard it.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From: Brandon Misch
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 9:37 AM
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ok some of the voices work while others don't. i can
>>>> see
>>>> what
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> you
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> meant by bad quality.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 12:17 PM, _Dectalk at aol.com_
>>>> >>> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com) wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> _http://pastorsnoopi.twigs76.com/music/SAPI%20DEMO.mp3_
>>>> >>> (http://pastorsnoopi.twigs76.com/music/SAPI%20DEMO.mp3)
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The above link is the sample that people wanted.
>>>> Blake
>>>> and I
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> both told that there is no problem. Tell that to
>>>> our
>>>> ears.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> (YUCK)
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In a message dated 5/4/2011 11:16:00 A.M. Eastern
>>>> Daylight
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Time,
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _edbruckert at gmail.com_ (mailto:edbruckert at gmail.com)
>>>> writes:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> All that means is what you are sent is not
>>>> acceptable
>>>> don't
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> worry
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> it'll
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> be solved I promise at this point in my life I need
>>>> it
>>>>
>>>> as
>>>> much
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> anybody else
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 10:48 AM, <_Dectalk at aol.com_
>>>> >>> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com) > wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Brace yourselves because I don't think you guys will
>>>> like
>>>> it.
>>>> >>> The
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> worst voice is Kit. I'd do the recording for you
>>>> guys
>>>> but I
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> really don't want to be linked with this pour
>>>> Dectalk
>>>> quality.
>>>> >>> Have
>>>> >>>>>> fun guys.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In a message dated 5/4/2011 9:10:14 A.M. Eastern
>>>> Daylight
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Time,
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _ratguy at insightbb.com_ (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com)
>>>> writes:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Here's a sample text. I assume you can use DECtalk
>>>> commands in
>>>> >>> the
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> text? An
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> MP3 of the 4.3 speak application performing this
>>>> exact
>>>> text can
>>>> >>> be
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> found at
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _http://www.bluegrasspals.com/dt43sample.mp3_
>>>> >>> (http://www.bluegrasspals.com/dt43sample.mp3)
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Now here's the text.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:phoneme on]
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:ra 250]
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hello. This is the factory default Paul voice.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm talking now with this voice since this is what
>>>> most
>>>> people
>>>> >>> are
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> probably going to be using. Let's speed it up a
>>>> bit.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:ra 300]
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This is probably how Jayson's JFW would talk
>>>> normally.
>>>> Now
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> let's
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> put some intonation in there.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:dv pr 250] [:dv sr 50]
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Okay, this is how Jayson used to listen to DECtalk
>>>> back
>>>> in the
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> good old
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> DOS
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> days. With 4.3 and earlier, if you could get used to
>>>> this
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> you would over time, this sounds pretty good! It'd
>>>> take
>>>> some
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> getting used to again, not having had it for so
>>>> long.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:ra 250]
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The rest of this demo was created a few months ago
>>>> to
>>>> compair
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> test the various other factory voices and several
>>>> custom
>>>> voices
>>>> >>> in
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> different DECtalk versions.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I will now test the other voices.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nb] I'm Beautiful Betty, the default female
>>>> voice.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nh] I'm Huge Harry.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nd] I'm Doctor Dennis.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nf] I'm Frail Frank.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nu] I'm Uppity Ursula.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nr] I'm Rough Rita.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nw] I'm Whispering Wendy.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nk] and I'm Kit the Kid.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:np]
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Now I'll let the DECtalk manual describe us.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:np] Perfect Paul Standard male voice.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nb] Beautiful Betty Standard female voice.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nh] Huge Harry Deep male voice.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nf] Frail Frank Older male voice.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nk] Kit the Kid Child's voice (about 10
>>>> years
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> old).
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nr] Rough Rita Deep female voice.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nu] Uppity Ursula Light female voice.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nd] Doctor Dennis Breathy male voice.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nw] Whispering Wendy Whispery female voice.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:np]
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Okay, let's test a few custom voices.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nf] [:dv br 0 la 0 sr 100 hr 100 ap 150 pr 95]
>>>> [:ra
>>>> 220] This
>>>> >>> is
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the voice of Rimmer from Red Dwarf.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Lister, we are being tested! I don't know what to
>>>> do!
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nf] [:ra 240] [:dv br 0 hs 95 ap 100 as 100 pr 220
>>>> hr
>>>> 30 sr
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 30]
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This is Lister.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Rimmer! Come over here and help me with this new
>>>> speech
>>>> >>> synthesizer!
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv as 0 bf 0 la 20 nf 00 ri 100 sm 0 hr 0 sr
>>>> 0]
>>>> [:ra
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 220]
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This is Holly.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This is an important announcement. All persons
>>>> aboard
>>>> this
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ship
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> are to report to the voice calibration office at
>>>> once.
>>>> That is
>>>> >>> all.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv br 100 lx 100 bf 100 hr 100 sr 100 as 100
>>>> qu
>>>> 100 ap
>>>> >>> 110
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> pr 150 sx
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 1 la 0] [:ra 210] This is the voice of the
>>>> toaster.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I don't know where this voice calibration office is.
>>>> Does
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> anyone
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> want some toast?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv sm 1 hs 90 br 0 ri 0 la 0] [:ra 250] I'm
>>>> the
>>>> cat.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Who says my voice needs to be calibrated? I want
>>>> fishies!
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nd] [:dv as 0 bf 0 la 20 nf 00 ri 100 hr 0 sr 0]
>>>> [:ra
>>>> 220]
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Queeg 500.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> None of you have any credit, so you may not use the
>>>> voice
>>>> >>> calibrator.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nu] [:dv as 1 bf 10 la 30 nf 10 ri 100 sm 50 hr
>>>> 100
>>>> sr
>>>> 20 ap
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 130] [:ra 240] I'm the newer voice of Holly.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm picking something up. It's another ship. Its
>>>> name
>>>> is
>>>> Deck
>>>> >>> Talk
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> or something very close. They have been conducting
>>>> an
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> experiment
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> on us all
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> time. That would explain why we've been saying all
>>>> these
>>>> silly
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> things.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> knew I was having trouble finding a record of any
>>>> voice
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> calibration office on Red Dwarf.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> From: "Corine Bickley"
>>>> <_corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu_
>>>> >>> (mailto:corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu) >
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions"
>>>> <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>> >>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 7:02 AM
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> HI Jayson,
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I will do that. Could you suggest some sample
>>>> sentences
>>>> to
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> synthesize?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> We're trying to find a way to put a "demo play"
>>>> button
>>>> on the
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Enable website so people can type in any text
>>>> they'd
>>>> like to
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> hear, but our programmer hasn't been able to spend
>>>> time
>>>> on
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>> >>>>>> project right now.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> corine
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Jayson Smith
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <_ratguy at insightbb.com_
>>>> (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com)
>>>> >
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have any audio samples you could share?
>>>> Maybe
>>>>
>>>> I
>>>> could
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> elaborate on what people don't like. I pretty much
>>>> know
>>>> what
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> DT
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.3 sounds like.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jayson
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Corine Bickley"
>>>> <_corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu_
>>>> >>> (mailto:corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu) >
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions"
>>>> <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>> >>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 7:53 PM
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> i meant - i can't hear the differences, not being
>>>> so
>>>> attuned
>>>> >>> to
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the various DT versions. i can hear ok, but i'm
>>>> not
>>>> clear
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the differences in quality.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Jayson Smith
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <_ratguy at insightbb.com_
>>>> (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) >
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wo, you actually got 4.3 working with SAPI? What
>>>> kind
>>>> of
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quality problems are there?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Corine Bickley"
>>>> <_corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu_
>>>> >>> (mailto:corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu) >
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions"
>>>> <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>> >>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:14 PM
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still waiting for one of the "old" (not
>>>> chronologically,
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just in terms of contact with DT) to send some
>>>> more
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> versions
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for testing.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.3 and 4.67 work in SAPI fine but preliminary
>>>> listening
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> results indicate dissatisfaction.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corine
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Jayson Smith
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <_ratguy at insightbb.com_
>>>> (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) >
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, it's broken record time. Anything new
>>>> going
>>>> on
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the SAPI DECtalk?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Haven't heard anything in a while.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jayson
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> >>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>> >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> >>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>> >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
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>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>> >>>
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