[DECtalk] Any news?

Raymond Grote musicalman1 at comcast.net
Thu May 5 22:24:15 EDT 2011


It knows its time is up. Lol.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alex H." <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?


> Lol! Tried that, yep, it's a E-flat then drops to a C with a little sigh.
>
> It's tired of sounding like crap so it sighs lol
>
> Alex
>
> On 5/5/11, Raymond Grote <musicalman1 at comcast.net> wrote:
>> And, I was able to make rather amusing sounds by putting one note in for
>> singing. I put in a low c, and instead of being a low c, it was like a 
>> sigh
>> of satisfaction. It started at an e, went down to a d, then got breathy 
>> and
>> ended. I can clarify if needed. Maybe post a sample and the code I used. 
>> But
>> it was funny.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Alex H." <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 9:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>
>>
>>>I was also under the impression that the testers were supposed to give
>>> feedback about the project and so on, but when they did, they got
>>> nothing but snide remarks that it's the same, "you don't know what
>>> you're talking about," etc. That sort of thing is just not cool,
>>> seeing as you're supposed to sell this! I hope nobody buys this just
>>> to proove the point that this is just not even close to being ready
>>> for any type of release!
>>>
>>> But I suppose, at this rate we're just screaming at the wind and
>>> nothing will change.
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/5/11, Raymond Grote <musicalman1 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> I'm pretty sure it will. The least we can do is not buy it and 
>>>> discourage
>>>> others from using it, unless they decide to make a change. I am hoping
>>>> they
>>>> will, but I'm very sure they won't.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>   From: Brandon Misch
>>>>   To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>>   Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 9:22 PM
>>>>   Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   sounds like it's going to be released no matter what and even if some
>>>> on
>>>> this list want it scrapped it looks like this will be released.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   On May 5, 2011, at 7:35 PM, Dectalk at aol.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Bingo!  That's why it would be better to scrap it.  If released as
>>>> is,
>>>> it messes with a dead man's life long reputation.  I'm sick over this!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>
>>>>     In a message dated 5/5/2011 7:21:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>> ratguy at insightbb.com writes:
>>>>       What's worse is that, if this gets released in its current state,
>>>> any
>>>> good
>>>>       name DECtalk may have had will get tarnished. We all thought 
>>>> Force
>>>> did
>>>>       horrible things with it. Now this! Someone who sees that a SAPI
>>>> version of
>>>>       DECtalk is available is likely to get excited if they know what
>>>> DECtalk is.
>>>>       When they put down their bucks to actually buy the thing, I hate 
>>>> to
>>>> even
>>>>       think what the reactions will be. This is ridiculous, and an 
>>>> insult
>>>>
>>>> to
>>>>       Dennis Klatt.
>>>>       Someone who just wants a SAPI synth who has no idea what DECtalk 
>>>> is
>>>> might
>>>>       find the Paul voice acceptable. It sounds like an old guy, which 
>>>> is
>>>>       certainly *not!* how it's supposed to sound. But I'd love to tell
>>>> such
>>>> a
>>>>       person to type [:nu] and see what happens after that.
>>>>       Jayson
>>>>
>>>>       ----- Original Message -----
>>>>       From: "Alex H." <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
>>>>       To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>       Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 7:14 PM
>>>>       Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>       >I guess they're just tired of hearing that something's wrong?
>>>> Sounds
>>>>       > like a give-up stratagy to me. Funny thing is, probably nobody
>>>> will
>>>>       > buy this unless they want to just use Paul or enjoy the sounds 
>>>> of
>>>>       > clipping mutated DECTalks or something.
>>>>       >
>>>>       > Alex
>>>>       >
>>>>       > On 5/5/11, Jayson Smith <ratguy at insightbb.com> wrote:
>>>>       >> What the? This product, as we've seen it, is absolutely 
>>>> nowhere
>>>> near
>>>>       >> ready
>>>>       >> for release. It has several obvious bugs. One of the more
>>>> crippling
>>>> and
>>>>       >> totally ridiculous in my opinion is that some of the factory
>>>> default
>>>>       >> voices
>>>>       >> are virtually unusable because their parameters are incorrect.
>>>> Factory
>>>>       >> voices, mind you. Not something some user has messed around 
>>>> with
>>>> and
>>>>       >> screwed
>>>>       >> up. Default voices, which are supposed to be usable. Sigh.
>>>>       >> Jayson
>>>>       >>
>>>>       >> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>       >> From: <Dectalk at aol.com>
>>>>       >> To: <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>       >> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 6:54 PM
>>>>       >> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>       >>
>>>>       >>
>>>>       >>> Ugh!  I just got word.  The programmer won't  be allowed to
>>>> join
>>>> and
>>>>       >>> they're doing an "As is" release.   (SIGH)
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> I can't write any more.
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 4:40:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight 
>>>> Time,
>>>>       >>> bmisch2002 at gmail.com writes:
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> I see.  hope that this project gets fixed soon.
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> On May 5, 2011, at 4:12 PM, _Dectalk at aol.com_
>>>> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
>>>>       >>> wrote:
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> Just so everyone knows, I'm not talking about Ed  at all. 
>>>> It's
>>>> someone
>>>>       >>> else and I've been instructed not to post the  name. 
>>>> Actually
>>>> I've been
>>>>       >>> told
>>>>       >>> to stop writing about the  programmer.  But just to be clear,
>>>> it's
>>>> not
>>>>       >>> Ed,
>>>>       >>> it's someone  else.
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 3:54:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight 
>>>> Time,
>>>>       >>> _musicalman1 at comcast.net_ (mailto:musicalman1 at comcast.net)
>>>> writes:
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> Very understandable. I did too, after hearing what you  were
>>>> told.
>>>> I
>>>>       >>> really
>>>>       >>> hoep we can get him on this list and see what  comes out of 
>>>> it.
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>       >>> From:  _Dectalk at aol.com_ (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
>>>>       >>> To: _dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>       >>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 3:44  PM
>>>>       >>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any  news?
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> Maybe if we all ask nicely, someone who knows  the programmer
>>>> will
>>>> get
>>>>       >>> that
>>>>       >>> person on here.  I just might not post  anything if this 
>>>> person
>>>> does
>>>>       >>> show
>>>>       >>> up.  After all, I got told I  don't know what I'm talking
>>>> about.
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> This person is smart, I just needed to  vent.  I work out of 
>>>> a
>>>> bedroom,
>>>>       >>> I'm
>>>>       >>> kind of trapped here  because the house is not wheelchair
>>>> accessible,
>>>>       >>> and
>>>>       >>> after I was told I  didn't know what I was talking about, I
>>>> needed
>>>> to
>>>>       >>> vent.
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 3:32:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight 
>>>> Time,
>>>>       >>> _musicalman1 at comcast.net_ (mailto:musicalman1 at comcast.net)
>>>> writes:
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> I'd like to chat with him at some point and help him  out if 
>>>> I
>>>> could.
>>>>       >>> I'm
>>>>       >>> sure some of us would too. Some changes really  need to be
>>>> made.
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>       >>> From:  _Dectalk at aol.com_ (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
>>>>       >>> To: _dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>       >>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011  2:57 PM
>>>>       >>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any  news?
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> I have total faith in this list!  We  all know what we're
>>>> doing,
>>>> so lets
>>>>       >>> work together and come up with  something for this 
>>>> programmer.
>>>> I
>>>> know
>>>>       >>> this
>>>>       >>> person is doing  their best, but this is guess work.  Maybe 
>>>> we
>>>> can
>>>> take
>>>>       >>> some
>>>>       >>> of  the guessing out of it?  Lets show this person we know 
>>>> our
>>>> stuff!
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 2:47:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight 
>>>> Time,
>>>>       >>> _musicalman1 at comcast.net_ (mailto:musicalman1 at comcast.net)
>>>> writes:
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> I don't think it's much use. As I  have been saying, someone
>>>> has
>>>> messsed
>>>>       >>> up
>>>>       >>> because of lack of  knowledge, and is being rather stubborn
>>>> about
>>>>       >>> admitting
>>>>       >>> that  something needs fixed.
>>>>       >>> If we as a list could somehow make it  work, I'd say this 
>>>> thing
>>>> would be
>>>>       >>> turning a whole new direction.  For now we can only provide
>>>> feedback and
>>>>       >>> test.
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>       >>> From:  _Brandon Misch_ (mailto:bmisch2002 at gmail.com)
>>>>       >>> To: _DECtalk Discussions_ (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>       >>> Sent: Thursday, May 05,  2011 8:28 AM
>>>>       >>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any  news?
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> i see where you're coming from. have you shown  the 
>>>> programmers
>>>> other
>>>>       >>> samples like 4.61 etc? maybe you can show  them voices like
>>>> betty
>>>> so
>>>>       >>> they
>>>>       >>> can see
>>>>       >>> where the loud pops are  coming from.
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> On May 5, 2011, at 5:59 AM, _Dectalk at aol.com_
>>>> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
>>>>       >>> wrote:
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> The problem is, Blake and I have  done that.  We sent a 
>>>> sample
>>>> of
>>>>       >>> version
>>>>       >>> 4.40 to the head  programmer to show how things should sound.
>>>> We
>>>> got an
>>>>       >>> e-mail back saying our version sounded corrupted.  This 
>>>> person
>>>> actually
>>>>       >>> said
>>>>       >>> that Whispering Wendy shouldn't be  whispering.  Hello, why
>>>> does
>>>> this
>>>>       >>> person
>>>>       >>> think the name  is "Whispering Wendy"?
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> It is totally clear to Blake and I  that this person doesn't
>>>> know
>>>>       >>> Dectalk.
>>>>       >>> And if version  4.40 is viewed as corrupted, there is no hope
>>>> if
>>>> getting
>>>>       >>> anything right.
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> So because of this, I'm hoping the  project gets scrapped
>>>> because
>>>> this
>>>>       >>> is
>>>>       >>> becoming in insult to  Dennis Klatt.
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 12:31:35 A.M. Eastern  Daylight
>>>> Time,
>>>>       >>> _bmisch2002 at gmail.com_ (mailto:bmisch2002 at gmail.com) 
>>>> writes:
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> maybe you should send the demo file over to the  guys so they
>>>> could hear
>>>>       >>> that and how the other voices sound.
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> On May 4, 2011, at 10:10 PM, Alex H.  wrote:
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>> I wouldn't give up just yet. All they  need to do is 
>>>> convince
>>>> this guy
>>>>       >>>> that he's wrong and  there is a huge, huge difference in 
>>>> this
>>>> version
>>>>       >>>> and  the real 4.3 version. This new stuff reminds me of a
>>>> early
>>>> age
>>>>       >>>> FonixTalk or something with a lot of excess  nasal tones.
>>>>       >>>>
>>>>       >>>> Alex
>>>>       >>>>
>>>>       >>>> On  5/4/11, _johnnybrl at gmail.com_ 
>>>> (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com)
>>>>       >>> <_johnnybrl at gmail.com_ (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com) >  wrote:
>>>>       >>>>> Well, since it looks like there won't be  a Sapi Dectalk,
>>>> guess
>>>> it's
>>>>       >>> time to
>>>>       >>>>> look at  Neospeech voices or ivona voices.  It's too bad 
>>>> the
>>>> head
>>>>       >>> programer
>>>>       >>>>> can't tell the difference between  the Dectalk 4.6 and
>>>> Dectalk
>>>> 4.3
>>>>       >>> versions.
>>>>       >>>>>
>>>>       >>>>> O well, was really looking forward to a Sapi  version of
>>>> Dectalk.
>>>>       >>>>> ----- Original Message  -----
>>>>       >>>>> From: "Blake Roberts" <_beroberts at hughes.net_
>>>>       >>> (mailto:beroberts at hughes.net) >
>>>>       >>>>>  To: "'DECtalk Discussions'" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>       >>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>>       >>>>>  Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 2:06 PM
>>>>       >>>>> Subject:  Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>       >>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>> Thanks Alex for being the latest list  member to point out
>>>> need
>>>> for
>>>>       >>>>>>  improvement.  I agree with you that there are clipping/
>>>> drop-out
>>>>       >>> issues.
>>>>       >>>>>> Additionally, I agree the  SAPI Dectalk  referred to as 
>>>> 4.3
>>>> is
>>>> unlike
>>>>       >>> any
>>>>       >>>>>> version of Dectalk I have ever heard. I,  too, am 
>>>> unwilling
>>>> to
>>>> give
>>>>       >>>>>> up
>>>>       >>> on
>>>>       >>>>>> SAPI  Dectalk.
>>>>       >>>>>> Blake
>>>>       >>>>>> -----Original  Message-----
>>>>       >>>>>> From: _dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>       >>> (mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>       >>>>>>  [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of
>>>> Alex
>>>> H.
>>>>       >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:59  PM
>>>>       >>>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>>       >>>>>>  Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>       >>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>> Just heard the demo, and.... Well, I agree  with Snoopi,
>>>> it's
>>>>       >>>>>> terrible.
>>>>       >>>>>> I don't know who  was telling you that nothing's wrong, 
>>>> but
>>>> this
>>>>       >>> doesn't
>>>>       >>>>>> sound even remotely like any DECTalk  version I've heard.
>>>>       >>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>> That  being said, the Huge Harry voice is kinda cool, but
>>>> yeah
>>>>       >>>>>> there's
>>>>       >>> some
>>>>       >>>>>> issues with clipping and  dropouts in the voices, 
>>>> especially
>>>> with
>>>>       >>> Ursula
>>>>       >>>>>> and
>>>>       >>>>>>  Rita.
>>>>       >>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>> I don't think we  should give up quite yet though, good
>>>> things
>>>> come
>>>>       >>>>>> to
>>>>       >>>>>> those
>>>>       >>>>>> who wait. Giving up  on this would mean that I and other
>>>> users
>>>> of
>>>>       >>>>>> NVDA
>>>>       >>>>>> wouldn't be able to enjoy DECTalk's  great speech.
>>>>       >>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>> Alex
>>>>       >>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>> On  5/4/11, Jayson Smith <_ratguy at insightbb.com_
>>>>       >>> (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) >  wrote:
>>>>       >>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>       >>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>> One clarification. From what I  understand, Enable didn't
>>>> purchase
>>>>       >>>>>>> the
>>>>       >>>>>>>  rights to any DECtalk version. They only have the right 
>>>> to
>>>> sell,
>>>>       >>>>>>> not
>>>>       >>>>>>> full copyright. As I  understand it, the copyright of
>>>> DECtalk
>>>> is
>>>>       >>>>>>> still
>>>>       >>>>>>> held by Fonix. I could be wrong  though, I'm no lawyer.
>>>>       >>>>>>>  Jayson
>>>>       >>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>> -----  Original Message -----
>>>>       >>>>>>> From: "Brandon  Misch" <_bmisch2002 at gmail.com_
>>>>       >>> (mailto:bmisch2002 at gmail.com) >
>>>>       >>>>>>>  To: "DECtalk Discussions" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>       >>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>>       >>>>>>>  Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:28 PM
>>>>       >>>>>>>  Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>       >>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>> it also was 4.6.7  at one time. i doubt this project will
>>>> please
>>>>       >>> everyone.
>>>>       >>>>>>> all we know is enable rehab  purchased the wrights to 
>>>> 4.6.7
>>>> from
>>>>       >>>>>>> fonix
>>>>       >>>>>>> and trying to use that with the  4.3 data files wasn't a
>>>> good
>>>> idea.
>>>>       >>>>>>>  question is did this happen with other versions of
>>>> dectalk?
>>>> or
>>>>       >>>>>>> just
>>>>       >>> with
>>>>       >>>>>> this  version?
>>>>       >>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>> On May 4,  2011, at 4:13 PM, Raymond Grote wrote:
>>>>       >>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>> Yes, but many people miss the old  dectalk 4.3 days. I
>>>> really
>>>> never
>>>>       >>>>>>>> got  into dectalk, but I can see why. That version of 
>>>> the
>>>> synth
>>>>       >>>>>>>> and
>>>>       >>>>>>>> I
>>>>       >>>>>>>> stilll  do
>>>>       >>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>> have a  special place together even though I was never a
>>>> regular
>>>>       >>>>>>>> dectalk user. The major  disappointment for many of us 
>>>> is
>>>> it
>>>>       >>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>       >>>>>>>> sound like that, it's worse,  and to some of us it is
>>>> unusable.
>>>>       >>>>>>>> From
>>>>       >>>>>>>> my  understanding,
>>>>       >>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>> someone had posted that the synth  was supposed to sound
>>>> like
>>>>       >>>>>>>> 4.6.4,
>>>>       >>>>>>>>  then somewhere along the line it was changed to  4.3?
>>>>       >>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>> -----  Original Message -----
>>>>       >>>>>>>> From: Brandon  Misch
>>>>       >>>>>>>> To: DECtalk  Discussions
>>>>       >>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04,  2011 1:21 PM
>>>>       >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk]  Any news?
>>>>       >>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>  if this was fixed up, it could still be used as a sapi 
>>>> 5
>>>> synth.
>>>>       >>>>>>>> that's  all
>>>>       >>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>> it  needs for it to be a screen reader  voice.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>> On  May 4, 2011, at 1:13 PM, <_johnnybrl at gmail.com_
>>>>       >>> (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com) >  wrote:
>>>>       >>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message  -----
>>>>       >>>>>>>>> cool just heard the demo.  And yes it doesn't sound 
>>>> like
>>>> 4.3
>>>> but
>>>>       >>>>>>>>> the
>>>>       >>>>>>>>> Paul voice sounds pretty  cool.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>> And Frank doesn't sound  too bad either.  It kind of
>>>> reminds
>>>> me
>>>>       >>>>>>>>> of
>>>>       >>>>>>>>> the fonix talk demo. sounds  almost like that.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>> And it sounds like this version  of dectalk has more
>>>> inflection
>>>>       >>>>>>>>> than
>>>>       >>>>>>>>> 4.3 did, which I like. I  like lots of inflection in
>>>> synthes,
>>>>       >>>>>>>>> makes
>>>>       >>>>>>>>> them  sound
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>> cool  lol.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>> Back in high school, we had a  computer with Jaws with 
>>>> a
>>>> Dectalk
>>>>       >>>>>>>>> express hooked up to it,  and I used to go in there and
>>>> make
>>>>       >>>>>>>>> Dectalk
>>>>       >>>>>>>>> say things  lol.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>> From: Brandon  Misch
>>>>       >>>>>>>>> To: DECtalk  Discussions
>>>>       >>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May  04, 2011 9:52 AM
>>>>       >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re:  [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>> if you read below our messages,  you'll see a link to a
>>>> file
>>>> with
>>>>       >>> the
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>  demo
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>> inside. if you just want to use  paul and a few others,
>>>> it
>>>> works
>>>>       >>>>>>>>> but
>>>>       >>>>>>>>> not for all  voices.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 12:45 PM,  <_johnnybrl at gmail.com_
>>>>       >>> (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com) >  wrote:
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> hi, where did you guys get  the audio samples of the
>>>> sapi
>>>> dectalk
>>>>       >>> from?
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> sounds like you guys  have already heard it.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> -----  Original Message -----
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> From:  Brandon Misch
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> To: DECtalk  Discussions
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday,  May 04, 2011 9:37 AM
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>  Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any  news?
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> ok some of the voices work  while others don't. i can
>>>> see
>>>> what
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> meant by bad  quality.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 12:17  PM, _Dectalk at aol.com_
>>>>       >>> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)   wrote:
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>> _http://pastorsnoopi.twigs76.com/music/SAPI%20DEMO.mp3_
>>>>       >>> (http://pastorsnoopi.twigs76.com/music/SAPI%20DEMO.mp3)
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> The above link is the  sample that people wanted.
>>>> Blake
>>>> and I
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> both told that there  is no problem.  Tell that to 
>>>> our
>>>> ears.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  (YUCK)
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> SNOOPI  BOTTEN
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> In a message dated  5/4/2011 11:16:00 A.M. Eastern
>>>> Daylight
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> Time,
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> _edbruckert at gmail.com_ (mailto:edbruckert at gmail.com)
>>>> writes:
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> All that means  is what you are sent is not 
>>>> acceptable
>>>> don't
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> worry
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  it'll
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> be solved I promise at  this point in my life I need 
>>>> it
>>>>
>>>> as
>>>> much
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> anybody  else
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at  10:48 AM, <_Dectalk at aol.com_
>>>>       >>> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com) >  wrote:
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> Brace yourselves  because I don't think you guys will
>>>> like
>>>> it.
>>>>       >>> The
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  very
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> worst voice is  Kit.  I'd do the recording for you 
>>>> guys
>>>> but  I
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> really don't want to  be linked with this pour 
>>>> Dectalk
>>>> quality.
>>>>       >>> Have
>>>>       >>>>>> fun  guys.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> SNOOPI  BOTTEN
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> In a message dated  5/4/2011 9:10:14 A.M. Eastern
>>>> Daylight
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> Time,
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> _ratguy at insightbb.com_ (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com)
>>>> writes:
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  Hi,
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> Here's a sample text. I  assume you can use DECtalk
>>>> commands in
>>>>       >>> the
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> text?  An
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> MP3 of the 4.3 speak  application performing this 
>>>> exact
>>>> text can
>>>>       >>> be
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> found  at
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> _http://www.bluegrasspals.com/dt43sample.mp3_
>>>>       >>> (http://www.bluegrasspals.com/dt43sample.mp3)
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  Now here's the text.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:phoneme  on]
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:ra  250]
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> Hello. This is the  factory default Paul  voice.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> I'm talking now  with this voice since this is what
>>>> most
>>>> people
>>>>       >>> are
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> probably going to be  using. Let's speed it up a 
>>>> bit.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:ra  300]
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> This is probably  how Jayson's JFW would talk 
>>>> normally.
>>>> Now
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> let's
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> put some  intonation in there.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  [:dv pr 250] [:dv sr 50]
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  Okay, this is how Jayson used to listen to DECtalk
>>>> back
>>>> in  the
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> good  old
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  DOS
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> days. With 4.3 and  earlier, if you could get used to
>>>> this
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> you would over  time, this sounds pretty good! It'd
>>>> take
>>>> some
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> getting used to  again, not having had it for so 
>>>> long.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:ra  250]
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> The rest of this  demo was created a few months ago 
>>>> to
>>>> compair
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> test the various  other factory voices and several
>>>> custom
>>>> voices
>>>>       >>> in
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> different DECtalk  versions.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> I will now  test the other voices.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  [:nb] I'm Beautiful Betty, the default female 
>>>> voice.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:nh] I'm Huge  Harry.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:nd] I'm Doctor  Dennis.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:nf] I'm Frail  Frank.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:nu] I'm Uppity  Ursula.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:nr] I'm Rough  Rita.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:nw] I'm  Whispering Wendy.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:nk]  and I'm Kit the Kid.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  [:np]
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> Now I'll let the  DECtalk manual describe  us.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:np]     Perfect Paul         Standard male  voice.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:nb]   Beautiful Betty Standard female  voice.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:nh]   Huge Harry      Deep male  voice.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:nf]   Frail Frank         Older male  voice.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:nk]   Kit the Kid         Child's voice (about 10
>>>> years
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  old).
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:nr]     Rough Rita      Deep female  voice.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:nu]   Uppity Ursula   Light female  voice.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:nd]   Doctor Dennis   Breathy male  voice.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:nw]   Whispering Wendy Whispery female  voice.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  [:np]
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> Okay, let's test a  few custom voices.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:nf]  [:dv br 0 la 0 sr 100 hr 100 ap 150 pr 95] 
>>>> [:ra
>>>> 220] This
>>>>       >>> is
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> the voice of Rimmer  from Red Dwarf.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> Lister,  we are being tested! I don't know what to 
>>>> do!
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:nf] [:ra 240] [:dv  br 0 hs 95 ap 100 as 100 pr 220
>>>> hr
>>>> 30 sr
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> 30]
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> This is  Lister.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> Rimmer! Come  over here and help me with this new
>>>> speech
>>>>       >>> synthesizer!
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv  as 0 bf 0 la 20 nf 00 ri 100 sm 0 hr 0 sr
>>>> 0]
>>>> [:ra
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> 220]
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> This is  Holly.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> This is an  important announcement. All persons 
>>>> aboard
>>>> this
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> ship
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> are to report to  the voice calibration office at 
>>>> once.
>>>> That is
>>>>       >>> all.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv br 100  lx 100 bf 100 hr 100 sr 100 as 100
>>>> qu
>>>> 100 ap
>>>>       >>> 110
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> pr 150  sx
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> 1 la 0]  [:ra  210] This is the voice of the 
>>>> toaster.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> I don't know  where this voice calibration office is.
>>>> Does
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> anyone
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> want some  toast?
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv sm 1  hs 90  br 0 ri 0 la 0] [:ra 250] I'm
>>>> the
>>>> cat.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> Who says my voice  needs to be calibrated? I want
>>>> fishies!
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:nd] [:dv as 0  bf 0 la 20 nf 00 ri 100 hr 0 sr 0]
>>>> [:ra
>>>> 220]
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> Queeg  500.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> None of you have  any credit, so you may not use the
>>>> voice
>>>>       >>> calibrator.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:nu] [:dv  as 1 bf 10 la 30 nf 10 ri 100 sm 50 hr 
>>>> 100
>>>> sr
>>>> 20  ap
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> 130] [:ra 240] I'm  the newer voice of  Holly.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> I'm picking  something up. It's another ship. Its 
>>>> name
>>>> is
>>>> Deck
>>>>       >>> Talk
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> or something very  close. They have been conducting 
>>>> an
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> experiment
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> on us  all
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  this
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> time. That would  explain why we've been saying all
>>>> these
>>>> silly
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  things.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  I
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> knew I was having  trouble finding a record of any
>>>> voice
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> calibration office  on Red Dwarf.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message  -----
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> From: "Corine  Bickley" 
>>>> <_corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu_
>>>>       >>> (mailto:corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu) >
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  To: "DECtalk Discussions" 
>>>> <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>       >>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 7:02  AM
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re:  [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>> HI  Jayson,
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>> I will do  that. Could you suggest some sample
>>>> sentences
>>>> to
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>  synthesize?
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>> We're  trying to find a way to put a "demo play"
>>>> button
>>>> on  the
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>> Enable website  so people can type in any text 
>>>> they'd
>>>> like  to
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>> hear, but our  programmer hasn't been able to spend
>>>> time
>>>> on
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>       >>>>>> project right  now.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>  corine
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011  at 8:12 PM, Jayson  Smith
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>> <_ratguy at insightbb.com_ 
>>>> (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com)
>>>>  >
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you  have any audio samples you could share? 
>>>> Maybe
>>>>
>>>> I
>>>> could
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>> elaborate  on what people don't like. I pretty much
>>>> know
>>>> what
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>> DT
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.3 sounds  like.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>  Jayson
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original  Message -----
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>  From: "Corine Bickley"
>>>> <_corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu_
>>>>       >>> (mailto:corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu) >
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>  To: "DECtalk Discussions"
>>>> <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>       >>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>  Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 7:53  PM
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re:  [DECtalk] Any  news?
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>> i meant - i  can't hear the differences, not being
>>>> so
>>>> attuned
>>>>       >>> to
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the   various DT versions. i can hear ok, but i'm
>>>> not
>>>> clear
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the   differences in  quality.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May  3, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Jayson  Smith
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <_ratguy at insightbb.com_
>>>> (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) >
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Hi,
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wo, you  actually got 4.3 working with SAPI? What
>>>> kind
>>>>  of
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  quality problems are  there?
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Thanks.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----  Original Message  -----
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  From: "Corine Bickley"
>>>> <_corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu_
>>>>       >>> (mailto:corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu) >
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  To: "DECtalk Discussions"
>>>> <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>       >>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:14  PM
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any  news?
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Still waiting for one of the "old" (not
>>>> chronologically,
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  just in terms of contact with DT) to send some
>>>> more
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> versions
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  for  testing.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  4.3 and 4.67 work in SAPI fine but preliminary
>>>> listening
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  results indicate  dissatisfaction.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  corine
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On  Tue, May 3, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Jayson  Smith
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  <_ratguy at insightbb.com_
>>>> (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) >
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Okay, it's broken record time. Anything new
>>>> going
>>>> on
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  the SAPI  DECtalk?
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Haven't heard anything in a  while.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Jayson
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  DECtalk mailing  list
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>       >>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>       >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  DECtalk mailing  list
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>       >>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>       >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  DECtalk mailing  list
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>       >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>  DECtalk mailing  list
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>       >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>  DECtalk mailing  list
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>       >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>  DECtalk mailing list
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>  _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>  _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>       >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  DECtalk mailing list
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>       >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  DECtalk mailing list
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>       >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  DECtalk mailing list
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>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>       >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  DECtalk mailing list
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>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>       >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>  DECtalk mailing list
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>  _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>       >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>  DECtalk mailing list
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>  _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>       >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>  DECtalk mailing list
>>>>       >>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>  _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>       >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>  DECtalk mailing list
>>>>       >>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>  _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>       >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>       >>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>       >>>>>>>>  DECtalk mailing list
>>>>       >>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>       >>>>>>>>  _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>       >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>       >>>>>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>       >>>>>>>>  DECtalk mailing list
>>>>       >>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>       >>>>>>>>  _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>       >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>       >>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>       >>>>>>>  ----------
>>>>       >>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>       >>>>>>>>  DECtalk mailing list
>>>>       >>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>       >>>>>>>>  _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>       >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>       >>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>  _______________________________________________
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>>>>       >>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>       >>>>>>>  _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>       >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>       >>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>       >>>>>>  DECtalk mailing list
>>>>       >>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>       >>>>>>  _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>       >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>       >>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>       >>>>>>  DECtalk mailing list
>>>>       >>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>       >>>>>>  _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>       >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>       >>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>       >>>>>  DECtalk mailing list
>>>>       >>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>       >>>>>  _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>       >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>       >>>>>
>>>>       >>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>       >>>>  DECtalk mailing list
>>>>       >>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ 
>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>       >>>>  _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>       >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>       >>> DECtalk  mailing list
>>>>       >>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ 
>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>       >>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>       >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>       >>> DECtalk  mailing list
>>>>       >>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ 
>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>       >>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>       >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> ____________________________________
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>       >>> DECtalk  mailing list
>>>>       >>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ 
>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>       >>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>       >>> DECtalk  mailing list
>>>>       >>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ 
>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>       >>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> ____________________________________
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>       >>> DECtalk  mailing list
>>>>       >>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ 
>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>       >>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>       >>> DECtalk  mailing list
>>>>       >>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ 
>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>       >>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> ____________________________________
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>       >>> DECtalk  mailing list
>>>>       >>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ 
>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>       >>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>       >>> DECtalk  mailing list
>>>>       >>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ 
>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>       >>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>       >>> DECtalk  mailing list
>>>>       >>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ 
>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>       >>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>       >>> DECtalk  mailing  list
>>>>       >>> DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>       >>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>
>>>>       >>
>>>>       >>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>       >>
>>>>       >>
>>>>       >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>       >>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>       >>> DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>       >>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>
>>>>       >> _______________________________________________
>>>>       >> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>       >> DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>       >> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>       >>
>>>>       > _______________________________________________
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>>>>       > http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
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