[DECtalk] Any news?
Alex H.
linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com
Thu May 5 19:01:16 EDT 2011
Well, I guess better to release it now than possibly put more money into it.
That's just crazy.
Alex
On 5/5/11, Dectalk at aol.com <Dectalk at aol.com> wrote:
> Ugh! I just got word. The programmer won't be allowed to join and
> they're doing an "As is" release. (SIGH)
>
> I can't write any more.
>
>
> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>
>
> In a message dated 5/5/2011 4:40:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> bmisch2002 at gmail.com writes:
>
> I see. hope that this project gets fixed soon.
>
>
> On May 5, 2011, at 4:12 PM, _Dectalk at aol.com_ (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Just so everyone knows, I'm not talking about Ed at all. It's someone
> else and I've been instructed not to post the name. Actually I've been
> told
> to stop writing about the programmer. But just to be clear, it's not Ed,
> it's someone else.
>
>
> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>
>
> In a message dated 5/5/2011 3:54:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> _musicalman1 at comcast.net_ (mailto:musicalman1 at comcast.net) writes:
>
> Very understandable. I did too, after hearing what you were told. I really
> hoep we can get him on this list and see what comes out of it.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: _Dectalk at aol.com_ (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
> To: _dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com)
> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 3:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>
>
> Maybe if we all ask nicely, someone who knows the programmer will get that
> person on here. I just might not post anything if this person does show
> up. After all, I got told I don't know what I'm talking about.
>
> This person is smart, I just needed to vent. I work out of a bedroom, I'm
> kind of trapped here because the house is not wheelchair accessible, and
> after I was told I didn't know what I was talking about, I needed to vent.
>
>
> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>
>
> In a message dated 5/5/2011 3:32:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> _musicalman1 at comcast.net_ (mailto:musicalman1 at comcast.net) writes:
>
> I'd like to chat with him at some point and help him out if I could. I'm
> sure some of us would too. Some changes really need to be made.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: _Dectalk at aol.com_ (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
> To: _dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com)
> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 2:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>
>
> I have total faith in this list! We all know what we're doing, so lets
> work together and come up with something for this programmer. I know this
> person is doing their best, but this is guess work. Maybe we can take some
> of the guessing out of it? Lets show this person we know our stuff!
>
>
> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>
>
> In a message dated 5/5/2011 2:47:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> _musicalman1 at comcast.net_ (mailto:musicalman1 at comcast.net) writes:
>
> I don't think it's much use. As I have been saying, someone has messsed up
> because of lack of knowledge, and is being rather stubborn about admitting
> that something needs fixed.
> If we as a list could somehow make it work, I'd say this thing would be
> turning a whole new direction. For now we can only provide feedback and
> test.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: _Brandon Misch_ (mailto:bmisch2002 at gmail.com)
> To: _DECtalk Discussions_ (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com)
> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 8:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>
>
> i see where you're coming from. have you shown the programmers other
> samples like 4.61 etc? maybe you can show them voices like betty so they
> can see
> where the loud pops are coming from.
>
>
> On May 5, 2011, at 5:59 AM, _Dectalk at aol.com_ (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
> wrote:
>
>
>
> The problem is, Blake and I have done that. We sent a sample of version
> 4.40 to the head programmer to show how things should sound. We got an
> e-mail back saying our version sounded corrupted. This person actually
> said
> that Whispering Wendy shouldn't be whispering. Hello, why does this person
> think the name is "Whispering Wendy"?
>
> It is totally clear to Blake and I that this person doesn't know Dectalk.
> And if version 4.40 is viewed as corrupted, there is no hope if getting
> anything right.
>
> So because of this, I'm hoping the project gets scrapped because this is
> becoming in insult to Dennis Klatt.
>
>
> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>
>
> In a message dated 5/5/2011 12:31:35 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> _bmisch2002 at gmail.com_ (mailto:bmisch2002 at gmail.com) writes:
>
> maybe you should send the demo file over to the guys so they could hear
> that and how the other voices sound.
>
> On May 4, 2011, at 10:10 PM, Alex H. wrote:
>
>> I wouldn't give up just yet. All they need to do is convince this guy
>> that he's wrong and there is a huge, huge difference in this version
>> and the real 4.3 version. This new stuff reminds me of a early age
>> FonixTalk or something with a lot of excess nasal tones.
>>
>> Alex
>>
>> On 5/4/11, _johnnybrl at gmail.com_ (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com)
> <_johnnybrl at gmail.com_ (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com) > wrote:
>>> Well, since it looks like there won't be a Sapi Dectalk, guess it's
> time to
>>> look at Neospeech voices or ivona voices. It's too bad the head
> programer
>>> can't tell the difference between the Dectalk 4.6 and Dectalk 4.3
> versions.
>>>
>>> O well, was really looking forward to a Sapi version of Dectalk.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Blake Roberts" <_beroberts at hughes.net_
> (mailto:beroberts at hughes.net) >
>>> To: "'DECtalk Discussions'" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 2:06 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks Alex for being the latest list member to point out need for
>>>> improvement. I agree with you that there are clipping/ drop-out
> issues.
>>>> Additionally, I agree the SAPI Dectalk referred to as 4.3 is unlike
> any
>>>> version of Dectalk I have ever heard. I, too, am unwilling to give up
> on
>>>> SAPI Dectalk.
>>>> Blake
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: _dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com_
> (mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>> [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Alex H.
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:59 PM
>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>
>>>> Just heard the demo, and.... Well, I agree with Snoopi, it's terrible.
>>>> I don't know who was telling you that nothing's wrong, but this
> doesn't
>>>> sound even remotely like any DECTalk version I've heard.
>>>>
>>>> That being said, the Huge Harry voice is kinda cool, but yeah there's
> some
>>>> issues with clipping and dropouts in the voices, especially with
> Ursula
>>>> and
>>>> Rita.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think we should give up quite yet though, good things come to
>>>> those
>>>> who wait. Giving up on this would mean that I and other users of NVDA
>>>> wouldn't be able to enjoy DECTalk's great speech.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Alex
>>>>
>>>> On 5/4/11, Jayson Smith <_ratguy at insightbb.com_
> (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) > wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> One clarification. From what I understand, Enable didn't purchase the
>>>>> rights to any DECtalk version. They only have the right to sell, not
>>>>> full copyright. As I understand it, the copyright of DECtalk is still
>>>>> held by Fonix. I could be wrong though, I'm no lawyer.
>>>>> Jayson
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Brandon Misch" <_bmisch2002 at gmail.com_
> (mailto:bmisch2002 at gmail.com) >
>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:28 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> it also was 4.6.7 at one time. i doubt this project will please
> everyone.
>>>>> all we know is enable rehab purchased the wrights to 4.6.7 from fonix
>>>>> and trying to use that with the 4.3 data files wasn't a good idea.
>>>>> question is did this happen with other versions of dectalk? or just
> with
>>>> this version?
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Raymond Grote wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, but many people miss the old dectalk 4.3 days. I really never
>>>>>> got into dectalk, but I can see why. That version of the synth and I
>>>>>> stilll do
>>>>>>
>>>>>> have a special place together even though I was never a regular
>>>>>> dectalk user. The major disappointment for many of us is it doesn't
>>>>>> sound like that, it's worse, and to some of us it is unusable. From
>>>>>> my understanding,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> someone had posted that the synth was supposed to sound like 4.6.4,
>>>>>> then somewhere along the line it was changed to 4.3?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: Brandon Misch
>>>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 1:21 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> if this was fixed up, it could still be used as a sapi 5 synth.
>>>>>> that's all
>>>>>>
>>>>>> it needs for it to be a screen reader voice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 1:13 PM, <_johnnybrl at gmail.com_
> (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com) > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> cool just heard the demo. And yes it doesn't sound like 4.3 but the
>>>>>>> Paul voice sounds pretty cool.
>>>>>>> And Frank doesn't sound too bad either. It kind of reminds me of
>>>>>>> the fonix talk demo. sounds almost like that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And it sounds like this version of dectalk has more inflection than
>>>>>>> 4.3 did, which I like. I like lots of inflection in synthes, makes
>>>>>>> them sound
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cool lol.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Back in high school, we had a computer with Jaws with a Dectalk
>>>>>>> express hooked up to it, and I used to go in there and make Dectalk
>>>>>>> say things lol.
>>>>>>> From: Brandon Misch
>>>>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 9:52 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> if you read below our messages, you'll see a link to a file with
> the
>>>>>>> demo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> inside. if you just want to use paul and a few others, it works but
>>>>>>> not for all voices.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 12:45 PM, <_johnnybrl at gmail.com_
> (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com) > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hi, where did you guys get the audio samples of the sapi dectalk
> from?
>>>>>>>> sounds like you guys have already heard it.
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: Brandon Misch
>>>>>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 9:37 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ok some of the voices work while others don't. i can see what you
>>>>>>>> meant by bad quality.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 12:17 PM, _Dectalk at aol.com_
> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com) wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _http://pastorsnoopi.twigs76.com/music/SAPI%20DEMO.mp3_
> (http://pastorsnoopi.twigs76.com/music/SAPI%20DEMO.mp3)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The above link is the sample that people wanted. Blake and I are
>>>>>>>>> both told that there is no problem. Tell that to our ears.
>>>>>>>>> (YUCK)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In a message dated 5/4/2011 11:16:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>>>>>>> _edbruckert at gmail.com_ (mailto:edbruckert at gmail.com) writes:
>>>>>>>>> All that means is what you are sent is not acceptable don't worry
>>>>>>>>> it'll
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> be solved I promise at this point in my life I need it as much as
>>>>>>>>> anybody else
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 10:48 AM, <_Dectalk at aol.com_
> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com) > wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Brace yourselves because I don't think you guys will like it.
> The
>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> worst voice is Kit. I'd do the recording for you guys but I
>>>>>>>>> really don't want to be linked with this pour Dectalk quality.
> Have
>>>> fun guys.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In a message dated 5/4/2011 9:10:14 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>>>>>>> _ratguy at insightbb.com_ (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) writes:
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here's a sample text. I assume you can use DECtalk commands in
> the
>>>>>>>>> text? An
>>>>>>>>> MP3 of the 4.3 speak application performing this exact text can
> be
>>>>>>>>> found at
>>>>>>>>> _http://www.bluegrasspals.com/dt43sample.mp3_
> (http://www.bluegrasspals.com/dt43sample.mp3)
>>>>>>>>> Now here's the text.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [:phoneme on]
>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:ra 250]
>>>>>>>>> Hello. This is the factory default Paul voice.
>>>>>>>>> I'm talking now with this voice since this is what most people
> are
>>>>>>>>> probably going to be using. Let's speed it up a bit.
>>>>>>>>> [:ra 300]
>>>>>>>>> This is probably how Jayson's JFW would talk normally. Now let's
>>>>>>>>> put some intonation in there.
>>>>>>>>> [:dv pr 250] [:dv sr 50]
>>>>>>>>> Okay, this is how Jayson used to listen to DECtalk back in the
>>>>>>>>> good old
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> DOS
>>>>>>>>> days. With 4.3 and earlier, if you could get used to this which
>>>>>>>>> you would over time, this sounds pretty good! It'd take some
>>>>>>>>> getting used to again, not having had it for so long.
>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:ra 250]
>>>>>>>>> The rest of this demo was created a few months ago to compair and
>>>>>>>>> test the various other factory voices and several custom voices
> in
>>>>>>>>> different DECtalk versions.
>>>>>>>>> I will now test the other voices.
>>>>>>>>> [:nb] I'm Beautiful Betty, the default female voice.
>>>>>>>>> [:nh] I'm Huge Harry.
>>>>>>>>> [:nd] I'm Doctor Dennis.
>>>>>>>>> [:nf] I'm Frail Frank.
>>>>>>>>> [:nu] I'm Uppity Ursula.
>>>>>>>>> [:nr] I'm Rough Rita.
>>>>>>>>> [:nw] I'm Whispering Wendy.
>>>>>>>>> [:nk] and I'm Kit the Kid.
>>>>>>>>> [:np]
>>>>>>>>> Now I'll let the DECtalk manual describe us.
>>>>>>>>> [:np] Perfect Paul Standard male voice.
>>>>>>>>> [:nb] Beautiful Betty Standard female voice.
>>>>>>>>> [:nh] Huge Harry Deep male voice.
>>>>>>>>> [:nf] Frail Frank Older male voice.
>>>>>>>>> [:nk] Kit the Kid Child's voice (about 10 years
>>>>>>>>> old).
>>>>>>>>> [:nr] Rough Rita Deep female voice.
>>>>>>>>> [:nu] Uppity Ursula Light female voice.
>>>>>>>>> [:nd] Doctor Dennis Breathy male voice.
>>>>>>>>> [:nw] Whispering Wendy Whispery female voice.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [:np]
>>>>>>>>> Okay, let's test a few custom voices.
>>>>>>>>> [:nf] [:dv br 0 la 0 sr 100 hr 100 ap 150 pr 95] [:ra 220] This
> is
>>>>>>>>> the voice of Rimmer from Red Dwarf.
>>>>>>>>> Lister, we are being tested! I don't know what to do!
>>>>>>>>> [:nf] [:ra 240] [:dv br 0 hs 95 ap 100 as 100 pr 220 hr 30 sr 30]
>>>>>>>>> This is Lister.
>>>>>>>>> Rimmer! Come over here and help me with this new speech
> synthesizer!
>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv as 0 bf 0 la 20 nf 00 ri 100 sm 0 hr 0 sr 0] [:ra 220]
>>>>>>>>> This is Holly.
>>>>>>>>> This is an important announcement. All persons aboard this ship
>>>>>>>>> are to report to the voice calibration office at once. That is
> all.
>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv br 100 lx 100 bf 100 hr 100 sr 100 as 100 qu 100 ap
> 110
>>>>>>>>> pr 150 sx
>>>>>>>>> 1 la 0] [:ra 210] This is the voice of the toaster.
>>>>>>>>> I don't know where this voice calibration office is. Does anyone
>>>>>>>>> want some toast?
>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv sm 1 hs 90 br 0 ri 0 la 0] [:ra 250] I'm the cat.
>>>>>>>>> Who says my voice needs to be calibrated? I want fishies!
>>>>>>>>> [:nd] [:dv as 0 bf 0 la 20 nf 00 ri 100 hr 0 sr 0] [:ra 220] I'm
>>>>>>>>> Queeg 500.
>>>>>>>>> None of you have any credit, so you may not use the voice
> calibrator.
>>>>>>>>> [:nu] [:dv as 1 bf 10 la 30 nf 10 ri 100 sm 50 hr 100 sr 20 ap
>>>>>>>>> 130] [:ra 240] I'm the newer voice of Holly.
>>>>>>>>> I'm picking something up. It's another ship. Its name is Deck
> Talk
>>>>>>>>> or something very close. They have been conducting an experiment
>>>>>>>>> on us all
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> time. That would explain why we've been saying all these silly
>>>>>>>>> things.
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> knew I was having trouble finding a record of any voice
>>>>>>>>> calibration office on Red Dwarf.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Corine Bickley" <_corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu_
> (mailto:corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu) >
>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 7:02 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> HI Jayson,
>>>>>>>>>> I will do that. Could you suggest some sample sentences to
>>>>>>>>>> synthesize?
>>>>>>>>>> We're trying to find a way to put a "demo play" button on the
>>>>>>>>>> Enable website so people can type in any text they'd like to
>>>>>>>>>> hear, but our programmer hasn't been able to spend time on that
>>>> project right now.
>>>>>>>>>> corine
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Jayson Smith
>>>>>>>>>> <_ratguy at insightbb.com_ (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) >
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have any audio samples you could share? Maybe I could
>>>>>>>>>>> elaborate on what people don't like. I pretty much know what DT
>>>>>>>>>>> 4.3 sounds like.
>>>>>>>>>>> Jayson
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Corine Bickley" <_corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu_
> (mailto:corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu) >
>>>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 7:53 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> i meant - i can't hear the differences, not being so attuned
> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> the various DT versions. i can hear ok, but i'm not clear on
>>>>>>>>>>>> the differences in quality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Jayson Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>> <_ratguy at insightbb.com_ (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wo, you actually got 4.3 working with SAPI? What kind of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> quality problems are there?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Corine Bickley" <_corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu_
> (mailto:corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:14 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still waiting for one of the "old" (not chronologically,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just in terms of contact with DT) to send some more versions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for testing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.3 and 4.67 work in SAPI fine but preliminary listening
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> results indicate dissatisfaction.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Jayson Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <_ratguy at insightbb.com_ (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, it's broken record time. Anything new going on with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the SAPI DECtalk?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Haven't heard anything in a while.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jayson
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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