[DECtalk] Any news?
Blake Roberts
beroberts at hughes.net
Thu May 5 16:39:37 EDT 2011
I agree also. Members of this list know Dectalk.
Blake
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Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 6:57 AM
To: dectalk at bluegrasspals.com
Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
I agree. This list has the best people for the project because we know our
stuff.
SNOOPI BOTTEN
In a message dated 5/5/2011 6:51:45 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
musicalman1 at comcast.net writes:
Good idea.
I just wish we could all have confidence and get into the mind set
that
there is another way and that it may just happen one of these days.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Corine Bickley" <corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu>
To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 6:23 AM
Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
The programmers working on the SAPI version should be left out of
our
further discussions of what is wanted of DECtalk. Pls do not mention
them again. The issue is closed.
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 5:59 AM, <Dectalk at aol.com> wrote:
> The problem is, Blake and I have done that. We sent a sample of
version
> 4.40 to the head programmer to show how things should sound. We
got an
> e-mail back saying our version sounded corrupted. This person
actually
> said
> that Whispering Wendy shouldn't be whispering. Hello, why does
this person
> think the name is "Whispering Wendy"?
>
> It is totally clear to Blake and I that this person doesn't know
Dectalk.
> And if version 4.40 is viewed as corrupted, there is no hope if
getting
> anything right.
>
> So because of this, I'm hoping the project gets scrapped because
this is
> becoming in insult to Dennis Klatt.
>
>
> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>
> In a message dated 5/5/2011 12:31:35 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> bmisch2002 at gmail.com writes:
>
> maybe you should send the demo file over to the guys so they could
hear
> that
> and how the other voices sound.
>
> On May 4, 2011, at 10:10 PM, Alex H. wrote:
>
>> I wouldn't give up just yet. All they need to do is convince this
guy
>> that he's wrong and there is a huge, huge difference in this
version
>> and the real 4.3 version. This new stuff reminds me of a early
age
>> FonixTalk or something with a lot of excess nasal tones.
>>
>> Alex
>>
>> On 5/4/11, johnnybrl at gmail.com <johnnybrl at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Well, since it looks like there won't be a Sapi Dectalk, guess
it's time
>>> to
>>> look at Neospeech voices or ivona voices. It's too bad the head
>>> programer
>>> can't tell the difference between the Dectalk 4.6 and Dectalk
4.3
>>> versions.
>>>
>>> O well, was really looking forward to a Sapi version of Dectalk.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Blake Roberts" <beroberts at hughes.net>
>>> To: "'DECtalk Discussions'" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 2:06 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks Alex for being the latest list member to point out need
for
>>>> improvement. I agree with you that there are clipping/ drop-out
issues.
>>>> Additionally, I agree the SAPI Dectalk referred to as 4.3 is
unlike any
>>>> version of Dectalk I have ever heard. I, too, am unwilling to
give up
>>>> on
>>>> SAPI Dectalk.
>>>> Blake
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com
>>>> [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Alex H.
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:59 PM
>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>
>>>> Just heard the demo, and.... Well, I agree with Snoopi, it's
terrible.
>>>> I don't know who was telling you that nothing's wrong, but this
doesn't
>>>> sound even remotely like any DECTalk version I've heard.
>>>>
>>>> That being said, the Huge Harry voice is kinda cool, but yeah
there's
>>>> some
>>>> issues with clipping and dropouts in the voices, especially
with Ursula
>>>> and
>>>> Rita.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think we should give up quite yet though, good things
come to
>>>> those
>>>> who wait. Giving up on this would mean that I and other users
of NVDA
>>>> wouldn't be able to enjoy DECTalk's great speech.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Alex
>>>>
>>>> On 5/4/11, Jayson Smith <ratguy at insightbb.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> One clarification. From what I understand, Enable didn't
purchase the
>>>>> rights to any DECtalk version. They only have the right to
sell, not
>>>>> full copyright. As I understand it, the copyright of DECtalk
is still
>>>>> held by Fonix. I could be wrong though, I'm no lawyer.
>>>>> Jayson
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Brandon Misch" <bmisch2002 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:28 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> it also was 4.6.7 at one time. i doubt this project will
please
>>>>> everyone.
>>>>> all we know is enable rehab purchased the wrights to 4.6.7
from fonix
>>>>> and trying to use that with the 4.3 data files wasn't a good
idea.
>>>>> question is did this happen with other versions of dectalk? or
just
>>>>> with
>>>> this version?
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Raymond Grote wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, but many people miss the old dectalk 4.3 days. I really
never
>>>>>> got into dectalk, but I can see why. That version of the
synth and I
>>>>>> stilll do
>>>>>>
>>>>>> have a special place together even though I was never a
regular
>>>>>> dectalk user. The major disappointment for many of us is it
doesn't
>>>>>> sound like that, it's worse, and to some of us it is
unusable. From
>>>>>> my understanding,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> someone had posted that the synth was supposed to sound like
4.6.4,
>>>>>> then somewhere along the line it was changed to 4.3?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: Brandon Misch
>>>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 1:21 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> if this was fixed up, it could still be used as a sapi 5
synth.
>>>>>> that's all
>>>>>>
>>>>>> it needs for it to be a screen reader voice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 1:13 PM, <johnnybrl at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> cool just heard the demo. And yes it doesn't sound like 4.3
but the
>>>>>>> Paul voice sounds pretty cool.
>>>>>>> And Frank doesn't sound too bad either. It kind of reminds
me of
>>>>>>> the fonix talk demo. sounds almost like that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And it sounds like this version of dectalk has more
inflection than
>>>>>>> 4.3 did, which I like. I like lots of inflection in synthes,
makes
>>>>>>> them sound
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cool lol.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Back in high school, we had a computer with Jaws with a
Dectalk
>>>>>>> express hooked up to it, and I used to go in there and make
Dectalk
>>>>>>> say things lol.
>>>>>>> From: Brandon Misch
>>>>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 9:52 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> if you read below our messages, you'll see a link to a file
with the
>>>>>>> demo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> inside. if you just want to use paul and a few others, it
works but
>>>>>>> not for all voices.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 12:45 PM, <johnnybrl at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hi, where did you guys get the audio samples of the sapi
dectalk
>>>>>>>> from?
>>>>>>>> sounds like you guys have already heard it.
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: Brandon Misch
>>>>>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 9:37 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ok some of the voices work while others don't. i can see
what you
>>>>>>>> meant by bad quality.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 12:17 PM, Dectalk at aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://pastorsnoopi.twigs76.com/music/SAPI%20DEMO.mp3
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The above link is the sample that people wanted. Blake and
I are
>>>>>>>>> both told that there is no problem. Tell that to our ears.
>>>>>>>>> (YUCK)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In a message dated 5/4/2011 11:16:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight
Time,
>>>>>>>>> edbruckert at gmail.com writes:
>>>>>>>>> All that means is what you are sent is not acceptable
don't worry
>>>>>>>>> it'll
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> be solved I promise at this point in my life I need it as
much as
>>>>>>>>> anybody else
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 10:48 AM, <Dectalk at aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Brace yourselves because I don't think you guys will like
it. The
>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> worst voice is Kit. I'd do the recording for you guys but
I
>>>>>>>>> really don't want to be linked with this pour Dectalk
quality.
>>>>>>>>> Have
>>>> fun guys.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In a message dated 5/4/2011 9:10:14 A.M. Eastern Daylight
Time,
>>>>>>>>> ratguy at insightbb.com writes:
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here's a sample text. I assume you can use DECtalk
commands in the
>>>>>>>>> text? An
>>>>>>>>> MP3 of the 4.3 speak application performing this exact
text can be
>>>>>>>>> found at
>>>>>>>>> http://www.bluegrasspals.com/dt43sample.mp3
>>>>>>>>> Now here's the text.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [:phoneme on]
>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:ra 250]
>>>>>>>>> Hello. This is the factory default Paul voice.
>>>>>>>>> I'm talking now with this voice since this is what most
people are
>>>>>>>>> probably going to be using. Let's speed it up a bit.
>>>>>>>>> [:ra 300]
>>>>>>>>> This is probably how Jayson's JFW would talk normally. Now
let's
>>>>>>>>> put some intonation in there.
>>>>>>>>> [:dv pr 250] [:dv sr 50]
>>>>>>>>> Okay, this is how Jayson used to listen to DECtalk back in
the
>>>>>>>>> good old
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> DOS
>>>>>>>>> days. With 4.3 and earlier, if you could get used to this
which
>>>>>>>>> you would over time, this sounds pretty good! It'd take
some
>>>>>>>>> getting used to again, not having had it for so long.
>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:ra 250]
>>>>>>>>> The rest of this demo was created a few months ago to
compair and
>>>>>>>>> test the various other factory voices and several custom
voices in
>>>>>>>>> different DECtalk versions.
>>>>>>>>> I will now test the other voices.
>>>>>>>>> [:nb] I'm Beautiful Betty, the default female voice.
>>>>>>>>> [:nh] I'm Huge Harry.
>>>>>>>>> [:nd] I'm Doctor Dennis.
>>>>>>>>> [:nf] I'm Frail Frank.
>>>>>>>>> [:nu] I'm Uppity Ursula.
>>>>>>>>> [:nr] I'm Rough Rita.
>>>>>>>>> [:nw] I'm Whispering Wendy.
>>>>>>>>> [:nk] and I'm Kit the Kid.
>>>>>>>>> [:np]
>>>>>>>>> Now I'll let the DECtalk manual describe us.
>>>>>>>>> [:np] Perfect Paul Standard male voice.
>>>>>>>>> [:nb] Beautiful Betty Standard female voice.
>>>>>>>>> [:nh] Huge Harry Deep male voice.
>>>>>>>>> [:nf] Frail Frank Older male voice.
>>>>>>>>> [:nk] Kit the Kid Child's voice (about 10 years
>>>>>>>>> old).
>>>>>>>>> [:nr] Rough Rita Deep female voice.
>>>>>>>>> [:nu] Uppity Ursula Light female voice.
>>>>>>>>> [:nd] Doctor Dennis Breathy male voice.
>>>>>>>>> [:nw] Whispering Wendy Whispery female voice.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [:np]
>>>>>>>>> Okay, let's test a few custom voices.
>>>>>>>>> [:nf] [:dv br 0 la 0 sr 100 hr 100 ap 150 pr 95] [:ra 220]
This is
>>>>>>>>> the voice of Rimmer from Red Dwarf.
>>>>>>>>> Lister, we are being tested! I don't know what to do!
>>>>>>>>> [:nf] [:ra 240] [:dv br 0 hs 95 ap 100 as 100 pr 220 hr 30
sr 30]
>>>>>>>>> This is Lister.
>>>>>>>>> Rimmer! Come over here and help me with this new speech
>>>>>>>>> synthesizer!
>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv as 0 bf 0 la 20 nf 00 ri 100 sm 0 hr 0 sr 0]
[:ra 220]
>>>>>>>>> This is Holly.
>>>>>>>>> This is an important announcement. All persons aboard this
ship
>>>>>>>>> are to report to the voice calibration office at once.
That is
>>>>>>>>> all.
>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv br 100 lx 100 bf 100 hr 100 sr 100 as 100 qu
100 ap 110
>>>>>>>>> pr 150 sx
>>>>>>>>> 1 la 0] [:ra 210] This is the voice of the toaster.
>>>>>>>>> I don't know where this voice calibration office is. Does
anyone
>>>>>>>>> want some toast?
>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv sm 1 hs 90 br 0 ri 0 la 0] [:ra 250] I'm the
cat.
>>>>>>>>> Who says my voice needs to be calibrated? I want fishies!
>>>>>>>>> [:nd] [:dv as 0 bf 0 la 20 nf 00 ri 100 hr 0 sr 0] [:ra
220] I'm
>>>>>>>>> Queeg 500.
>>>>>>>>> None of you have any credit, so you may not use the voice
>>>>>>>>> calibrator.
>>>>>>>>> [:nu] [:dv as 1 bf 10 la 30 nf 10 ri 100 sm 50 hr 100 sr
20 ap
>>>>>>>>> 130] [:ra 240] I'm the newer voice of Holly.
>>>>>>>>> I'm picking something up. It's another ship. Its name is
Deck Talk
>>>>>>>>> or something very close. They have been conducting an
experiment
>>>>>>>>> on us all
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> time. That would explain why we've been saying all these
silly
>>>>>>>>> things.
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> knew I was having trouble finding a record of any voice
>>>>>>>>> calibration office on Red Dwarf.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Corine Bickley" <corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu>
>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 7:02 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> HI Jayson,
>>>>>>>>>> I will do that. Could you suggest some sample sentences
to
>>>>>>>>>> synthesize?
>>>>>>>>>> We're trying to find a way to put a "demo play" button on
the
>>>>>>>>>> Enable website so people can type in any text they'd like
to
>>>>>>>>>> hear, but our programmer hasn't been able to spend time
on that
>>>> project right now.
>>>>>>>>>> corine
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Jayson Smith
>>>>>>>>>> <ratguy at insightbb.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have any audio samples you could share? Maybe I
could
>>>>>>>>>>> elaborate on what people don't like. I pretty much know
what DT
>>>>>>>>>>> 4.3 sounds like.
>>>>>>>>>>> Jayson
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Corine Bickley" <corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 7:53 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> i meant - i can't hear the differences, not being so
attuned to
>>>>>>>>>>>> the various DT versions. i can hear ok, but i'm not
clear on
>>>>>>>>>>>> the differences in quality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Jayson Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>> <ratguy at insightbb.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wo, you actually got 4.3 working with SAPI? What kind
of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> quality problems are there?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Corine Bickley" <corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:14 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still waiting for one of the "old" (not
chronologically,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just in terms of contact with DT) to send some more
versions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for testing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.3 and 4.67 work in SAPI fine but preliminary
listening
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> results indicate dissatisfaction.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Jayson Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ratguy at insightbb.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, it's broken record time. Anything new going on
with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the SAPI DECtalk?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Haven't heard anything in a while.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jayson
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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