[DECtalk] Any news?

Brandon Misch bmisch2002 at gmail.com
Wed May 4 22:27:17 EDT 2011


i see 

On May 4, 2011, at 7:28 PM, Alex H. wrote:

> AS is, right now I could probably use this version with some serious
> voice modifications but that kind of defeats the purpose in the first
> place as I love the Paul and Harry voices.
> 
> Alex
> 
> On 5/4/11, Raymond Grote <musicalman1 at comcast.net> wrote:
>> I really don't think they care, at least not the people who accuse Snoopy
>> and Blake that they don't know what they're talking about.
>> That's why I said, someone who knows about the different versions and how to
>> port what to sapi.
>> But, if we keep convincing them that something is wrong, which there is,
>> something will get done. Either they'll give up or try to fix it. Or they
>> could just disappear from the list which would mean giving up.
>> 
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>  From: Brandon Misch
>>  To: DECtalk Discussions
>>  Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 7:15 PM
>>  Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>> 
>> 
>>  sounds lik it. whoever did this didn't make sure the voices sounded ok
>> maybe someone should let them hear the female voices and see if snoopi and
>> blake have bad ears or not. am not talking about Betty or Wendy but the
>> other femail voices. Then they can decide who doesn't know what when it
>> comes to these voices.
>> 
>> 
>>  On May 4, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Raymond Grote wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>    Oh my, too many version conflicts...
>> 
>>      ----- Original Message -----
>>      From: Brandon Misch
>>      To: DECtalk Discussions
>>      Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:28 PM
>>      Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>> 
>> 
>>      it also was 4.6.7 at one time. i doubt this project will please
>> everyone. all we know is enable rehab purchased the wrights to 4.6.7 from
>> fonix and trying to use that with the 4.3 data files wasn't a good idea.
>> question is did this happen with other versions of dectalk? or just with
>> this version?
>> 
>> 
>>      On May 4, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Raymond Grote wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>        Yes, but many people miss the old dectalk 4.3 days. I really never
>> got into dectalk, but I can see why. That version of the synth and I stilll
>> do have a special place together even though I was never a regular dectalk
>> user. The major disappointment for many of us is it doesn't sound like that,
>> it's worse, and to some of us it is unusable. >From my understanding,
>> someone had posted that the synth was supposed to sound like 4.6.4, then
>> somewhere along the line it was changed to 4.3?
>> 
>>        ----- Original Message -----
>>          From: Brandon Misch
>>          To: DECtalk Discussions
>>          Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 1:21 PM
>>          Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>> 
>> 
>>          if this was fixed up, it could still be used as a sapi 5 synth.
>> that's all it needs for it to be a screen reader voice.
>> 
>> 
>>          On May 4, 2011, at 1:13 PM, <johnnybrl at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>              ----- Original Message -----
>>              cool just heard the demo. And yes it doesn't sound like 4.3
>> but the Paul voice sounds pretty cool.
>>              And Frank doesn't sound too bad either.  It kind of reminds me
>> of the fonix talk demo. sounds almost like that.
>> 
>>              And it sounds like this version of dectalk has more inflection
>> than 4.3 did, which I like. I like lots of inflection in synthes, makes them
>> sound cool lol.
>> 
>>              Back in high school, we had a computer with Jaws with a
>> Dectalk express hooked up to it, and I used to go in there and make Dectalk
>> say things lol.
>>              From: Brandon Misch
>>              To: DECtalk Discussions
>>              Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 9:52 AM
>>              Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>> 
>> 
>>              if you read below our messages, you'll see a link to a file
>> with the demo inside. if you just want to use paul and a few others, it
>> works but not for all voices.
>> 
>> 
>>              On May 4, 2011, at 12:45 PM, <johnnybrl at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>                hi, where did you guys get the audio samples of the sapi
>> dectalk from? sounds like you guys have already heard it.
>>                  ----- Original Message -----
>>                  From: Brandon Misch
>>                  To: DECtalk Discussions
>>                  Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 9:37 AM
>>                  Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>> 
>> 
>>                  ok some of the voices work while others don't. i can see
>> what you meant by bad quality.
>> 
>> 
>>                  On May 4, 2011, at 12:17 PM, Dectalk at aol.com wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>                    http://pastorsnoopi.twigs76.com/music/SAPI%20DEMO.mp3
>> 
>>                    The above link is the sample that people wanted.  Blake
>> and I are both told that there is no problem.  Tell that to our ears.
>> (YUCK)
>> 
>> 
>>                    SNOOPI BOTTEN
>> 
>>                    In a message dated 5/4/2011 11:16:00 A.M. Eastern
>> Daylight Time, edbruckert at gmail.com writes:
>>                      All that means is what you are sent is not acceptable
>> don't worry it'll be solved I promise at this point in my life I need it as
>> much as anybody else
>> 
>> 
>>                      On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 10:48 AM, <Dectalk at aol.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>                        Brace yourselves because I don't think you guys will
>> like it.  The very worst voice is Kit.  I'd do the recording for you guys
>> but I really don't want to be linked with this pour Dectalk quality.  Have
>> fun guys.
>> 
>> 
>>                        SNOOPI BOTTEN
>> 
>>                        In a message dated 5/4/2011 9:10:14 A.M. Eastern
>> Daylight Time, ratguy at insightbb.com writes:
>>                          Hi,
>> 
>>                          Here's a sample text. I assume you can use DECtalk
>> commands in the text? An
>>                          MP3 of the 4.3 speak application performing this
>> exact text can be found at
>>                          http://www.bluegrasspals.com/dt43sample.mp3
>>                          Now here's the text.
>> 
>>                          [:phoneme on]
>>                          [:np] [:ra 250]
>>                          Hello. This is the factory default Paul voice.
>>                          I'm talking now with this voice since this is what
>> most people are probably
>>                          going to be using. Let's speed it up a bit.
>>                          [:ra 300]
>>                          This is probably how Jayson's JFW would talk
>> normally. Now let's put some
>>                          intonation in there.
>>                          [:dv pr 250] [:dv sr 50]
>>                          Okay, this is how Jayson used to listen to DECtalk
>> back in the good old DOS
>>                          days. With 4.3 and earlier, if you could get used
>> to this which you would
>>                          over time, this sounds pretty good! It'd take some
>> getting used to again,
>>                          not having had it for so long.
>>                          [:np] [:ra 250]
>>                          The rest of this demo was created a few months ago
>> to compair and test the
>>                          various other factory voices and several custom
>> voices in different DECtalk
>>                          versions.
>>                          I will now test the other voices.
>>                          [:nb] I'm Beautiful Betty, the default female
>> voice.
>>                          [:nh] I'm Huge Harry.
>>                          [:nd] I'm Doctor Dennis.
>>                          [:nf] I'm Frail Frank.
>>                          [:nu] I'm Uppity Ursula.
>>                          [:nr] I'm Rough Rita.
>>                          [:nw] I'm Whispering Wendy.
>>                          [:nk] and I'm Kit the Kid.
>>                          [:np]
>>                          Now I'll let the DECtalk manual describe us.
>>                          [:np]       Perfect Paul           Standard male
>> voice.
>>                          [:nb]       Beautiful Betty Standard female voice.
>>                          [:nh]       Huge Harry      Deep male voice.
>>                          [:nf]       Frail Frank            Older male
>> voice.
>>                          [:nk]       Kit the Kid             Child's voice
>> (about 10 years
>>                          old).
>>                          [:nr]       Rough Rita      Deep female voice.
>>                          [:nu]       Uppity Ursula   Light female voice.
>>                          [:nd]       Doctor Dennis   Breathy male voice.
>>                          [:nw]       Whispering Wendy Whispery female
>> voice.
>> 
>>                          [:np]
>>                          Okay, let's test a few custom voices.
>>                          [:nf] [:dv br 0 la 0 sr 100 hr 100 ap 150 pr 95]
>> [:ra 220] This is the voice
>>                          of Rimmer from Red Dwarf.
>>                          Lister, we are being tested! I don't know what to
>> do!
>>                          [:nf] [:ra 240] [:dv br 0 hs 95 ap 100 as 100 pr
>> 220 hr 30 sr 30] This is
>>                          Lister.
>>                          Rimmer! Come over here and help me with this new
>> speech synthesizer!
>>                          [:np] [:dv as 0 bf 0 la 20 nf 00 ri 100 sm 0 hr 0
>> sr 0] [:ra 220] This is
>>                          Holly.
>>                          This is an important announcement. All persons
>> aboard this ship are to
>>                          report to the voice calibration office at once.
>> That is all.
>>                          [:np] [:dv br 100 lx 100 bf 100 hr 100 sr 100 as
>> 100 qu 100 ap 110 pr 150 sx
>>                          1 la 0]  [:ra 210] This is the voice of the
>> toaster.
>>                          I don't know where this voice calibration office
>> is. Does anyone want some
>>                          toast?
>>                          [:np] [:dv sm 1 hs 90  br 0 ri 0 la 0] [:ra 250]
>> I'm the cat.
>>                          Who says my voice needs to be calibrated? I want
>> fishies!
>>                          [:nd] [:dv as 0 bf 0 la 20 nf 00 ri 100 hr 0 sr 0]
>> [:ra 220] I'm Queeg 500.
>>                          None of you have any credit, so you may not use
>> the voice calibrator.
>>                          [:nu] [:dv as 1 bf 10 la 30 nf 10 ri 100 sm 50 hr
>> 100 sr 20 ap 130] [:ra
>>                          240] I'm the newer voice of Holly.
>>                          I'm picking something up. It's another ship. Its
>> name is Deck Talk or
>>                          something very close. They have been conducting an
>> experiment on us all this
>>                          time. That would explain why we've been saying all
>> these silly things. I
>>                          knew I was having trouble finding a record of any
>> voice calibration office
>>                          on Red Dwarf.
>> 
>>                          ----- Original Message -----
>>                          From: "Corine Bickley"
>> <corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu>
>>                          To: "DECtalk Discussions"
>> <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>                          Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 7:02 AM
>>                          Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>> 
>> 
>>> HI Jayson,
>>> I will do that. Could you suggest some sample
>> sentences to synthesize?
>>> We're trying to find a way to put a "demo play"
>> button on the Enable
>>> website so people can type in any text they'd
>> like to hear, but our
>>> programmer hasn't been able to spend time on
>> that project right now.
>>> corine
>>> 
>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Jayson Smith
>> <ratguy at insightbb.com> wrote:
>>>> Do you have any audio samples you could share?
>> Maybe I could elaborate on
>>>> what people don't like. I pretty much know what
>> DT 4.3 sounds like.
>>>> Jayson
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Corine Bickley"
>> <corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu>
>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions"
>> <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 7:53 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> i meant - i can't hear the differences, not
>> being so attuned to the
>>>>> various DT versions. i can hear ok, but i'm
>> not clear on the
>>>>> differences in quality.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Jayson Smith
>> <ratguy at insightbb.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Wo, you actually got 4.3 working with SAPI?
>> What kind of quality
>>>>>> problems
>>>>>> are there?
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Corine Bickley"
>> <corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu>
>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions"
>> <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:14 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Still waiting for one of the "old" (not
>> chronologically, just in terms
>>>>>>> of contact with DT) to send some more
>> versions for testing.
>>>>>>> 4.3 and 4.67 work in SAPI fine but
>> preliminary listening results
>>>>>>> indicate dissatisfaction.
>>>>>>> corine
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Jayson Smith
>> <ratguy at insightbb.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Okay, it's broken record time. Anything new
>> going on with the SAPI
>>>>>>>> DECtalk?
>>>>>>>> Haven't heard anything in a while.
>>>>>>>> Jayson
>>>>>>>> 
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