[DECtalk] Any news?

Dectalk at aol.com Dectalk at aol.com
Wed May 4 13:24:02 EDT 2011


The real question is, would people pay for a partially  working SAPI?  I 
personally wouldn't.  
 
 
SNOOPI BOTTEN 
 
 
In a message dated 5/4/2011 1:16:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
bmisch2002 at gmail.com writes:

you are  hearing it wright. some of the voices are good like paul, frank, 
harry, and  probably one other voices. if people just want to use paul for 
nvda and other  things, it's ok for that but if people want to make dectalk do 
certain things  like sing, this isn't as good but for people who just want 
to use it with a  screen reader and nothing more, it's ok for that.   


On May 4, 2011, at 1:06 PM, _Dectalk at aol.com_ (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)  
wrote:



I'm too mad to deal with it.  Blake and I got  asked how to make Dectalk 
sing, so we sent them a file.  We both got  told that we don't know what we're 
doing.  Then we're told that it will  sing with no problem,  Um, it won't.  
I had Blake send "WE ARE THE  WORLD" for the simple fact that if they ever 
get that to sing clear through  with no feedback, we will have something to 
work with.
 
As of now, we are working with garbage!   That's why I'm against posting 
samples because this stuff is mostly  crap.  They call it 4.3, I don't!  This 
is as far from 4.anything  as you can get!
 
Some of these people are on this list.  Maybe  they will finally get that 
the gn command on some voices is set too high,  the consonant sounds are not 
clearly heard, and ugh I could go on and  on.
 
I might not get another SAPI after posting the  demo.  I don't care.  This 
is trash, and I'm tired of being told  I'm not hearing it right.  I'm glad 
I'm not alone in my  opinion.
 
 
SNOOPI BOTTEN 
 
 
In a message dated 5/4/2011 12:41:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
_bmisch2002 at gmail.com_ (mailto:bmisch2002 at gmail.com)  writes:

i  hope you show this sample to those who are telling you that there is no  
problem.   


On May 4, 2011, at 12:17 PM, _Dectalk at aol.com_ (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)  
wrote:



_http://pastorsnoopi.twigs76.com/music/SAPI%20DEMO.mp3_ 
(http://pastorsnoopi.twigs76.com/music/SAPI%20DEMO.mp3) 
 
The above link is the sample that people  wanted.  Blake and I are both 
told that there is no problem.   Tell that to our ears.  (YUCK) 
 
 
SNOOPI BOTTEN 
 
 
In a message dated 5/4/2011 11:16:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
_edbruckert at gmail.com_ (mailto:edbruckert at gmail.com)   writes:

All that means is what you are sent is not acceptable don't  worry it'll be 
solved I promise at this point in my life I need it as  much as anybody else

On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 10:48 AM, <_Dectalk at aol.com_ 
(mailto:Dectalk at aol.com) >  wrote:


Brace yourselves because I don't think you  guys will like it.  The very 
worst voice is Kit.  I'd do  the recording for you guys but I really don't 
want to be linked with  this pour Dectalk quality.  Have fun  guys.
 
 
SNOOPI BOTTEN 
 

 

 
In a message dated 5/4/2011 9:10:14 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
_ratguy at insightbb.com_ (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com)  writes:

Hi,

Here's a sample text. I assume you can use  DECtalk commands in the text? 
An 
MP3 of the 4.3 speak  application performing this exact text can be found at
_http://www.bluegrasspals.com/dt43sample.mp3_ 
(http://www.bluegrasspals.com/dt43sample.mp3) 
Now  here's the text.

[:phoneme on]
[:np] [:ra 250]
Hello.  This is the factory default Paul voice.
I'm talking now with  this voice since this is what most people are 
probably 
going  to be using. Let's speed it up a bit.
[:ra 300]
This is  probably how Jayson's JFW would talk normally. Now let's put some  
intonation in there.
[:dv pr 250] [:dv sr 50]
Okay, this  is how Jayson used to listen to DECtalk back in the good old 
DOS  
days. With 4.3 and earlier, if you could get used to this  which you would 
over time, this sounds pretty good! It'd take  some getting used to again, 
not having had it for so  long.
[:np] [:ra 250]
The rest of this demo was created a  few months ago to compair and test the 
various other factory  voices and several custom voices in different 
DECtalk  
versions.
I will now test the other voices.
[:nb] I'm  Beautiful Betty, the default female voice.
[:nh] I'm Huge  Harry.
[:nd] I'm Doctor Dennis.
[:nf] I'm Frail  Frank.
[:nu] I'm Uppity Ursula.
[:nr] I'm Rough  Rita.
[:nw] I'm Whispering Wendy.
[:nk] and I'm Kit the  Kid.
[:np]
Now I'll let the DECtalk manual describe  us.
[:np]       Perfect Paul     Standard male voice.
[:nb]   Beautiful Betty Standard female  voice.
[:nh]       Huge Harry     Deep male voice.
[:nf]       Frail  Frank            Older male  voice.
[:nk]       Kit the Kid     Child's voice (about 10  years
old).
[:nr]       Rough Rita   Deep female voice.
[:nu]     Uppity Ursula   Light female  voice.
[:nd]       Doctor  Dennis   Breathy male voice.
[:nw]     Whispering Wendy Whispery female  voice.

[:np]
Okay, let's test a few custom  voices.
[:nf] [:dv br 0 la 0 sr 100 hr 100 ap 150 pr 95] [:ra  220] This is the 
voice 
of Rimmer from Red Dwarf.
Lister, we  are being tested! I don't know what to do!
[:nf] [:ra 240] [:dv  br 0 hs 95 ap 100 as 100 pr 220 hr 30 sr 30] This is  
Lister.
Rimmer! Come over here and help me with this new  speech synthesizer!
[:np] [:dv as 0 bf 0 la 20 nf 00 ri 100 sm  0 hr 0 sr 0] [:ra 220] This is 
Holly.
This is an important  announcement. All persons aboard this ship are to 
report to  the voice calibration office at once. That is all.
[:np] [:dv  br 100 lx 100 bf 100 hr 100 sr 100 as 100 qu 100 ap 110 pr 150 
sx  
1 la 0]  [:ra 210] This is the voice of the toaster.
I  don't know where this voice calibration office is. Does anyone  want 
some 
toast?
[:np] [:dv sm 1 hs 90  br 0 ri 0 la  0] [:ra 250] I'm the cat.
Who says my voice needs to be  calibrated? I want fishies!
[:nd] [:dv as 0 bf 0 la 20 nf 00 ri  100 hr 0 sr 0] [:ra 220] I'm Queeg 500.
None of you have any  credit, so you may not use the voice calibrator.
[:nu] [:dv as  1 bf 10 la 30 nf 10 ri 100 sm 50 hr 100 sr 20 ap 130] [:ra  
240] I'm the newer voice of Holly.
I'm picking something  up. It's another ship. Its name is Deck Talk or 
something very  close. They have been conducting an experiment on us all 
this  
time. That would explain why we've been saying all these silly  things. I 
knew I was having trouble finding a record of any  voice calibration office 
on Red Dwarf.

----- Original  Message ----- 
From: "Corine Bickley" <_corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu_ 
(mailto:corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu) >
To: "DECtalk  Discussions" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_ 
(mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
Sent:  Wednesday, May 04, 2011 7:02 AM
Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any  news?


> HI Jayson,
> I will do that. Could you  suggest some sample sentences to synthesize?
> We're trying  to find a way to put a "demo play" button on the Enable
>  website so people can type in any text they'd like to hear, but  our
> programmer hasn't been able to spend time on that  project right now.
> corine
>
> On Tue, May 3,  2011 at 8:12 PM, Jayson Smith <_ratguy at insightbb.com_ 
(mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) > wrote:
>> Do  you have any audio samples you could share? Maybe I could  elaborate 
on
>> what people don't like. I pretty much  know what DT 4.3 sounds like.
>>  Jayson
>>
>> ----- Original Message  -----
>> From: "Corine Bickley" <_corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu_ 
(mailto:corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu) >
>> To:  "DECtalk Discussions" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_ 
(mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>> Sent:  Tuesday, May 03, 2011 7:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk]  Any news?
>>
>>
>>>i meant - i can't  hear the differences, not being so attuned to the
>>>  various DT versions. i can hear ok, but i'm not clear on  the
>>> differences in  quality.
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at  7:24 PM, Jayson Smith <_ratguy at insightbb.com_ 
(mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) > 
>>>  wrote:
>>>>  Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Wo, you actually got  4.3 working with SAPI? What kind of quality 
>>>>  problems
>>>> are there?
>>>>  Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original  Message -----
>>>> From: "Corine Bickley" <_corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu_ 
(mailto:corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu) >
>>>>  To: "DECtalk Discussions" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_ 
(mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>>  Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:14 PM
>>>> Subject:  Re: [DECtalk] Any  news?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>  Still waiting for one of the "old" (not chronologically, just in  
terms
>>>>> of contact with DT) to send some  more versions for testing.
>>>>> 4.3 and 4.67  work in SAPI fine but preliminary listening  results
>>>>> indicate  dissatisfaction.
>>>>>  corine
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Jayson Smith <_ratguy at insightbb.com_ 
(mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) >
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> Okay, it's broken record time.  Anything new going on with the SAPI
>>>>>>  DECtalk?
>>>>>> Haven't heard anything in a  while.
>>>>>>  Jayson
>>>>>>
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