[DECtalk] Adding words to Dectalk dictionary

Alex H. linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com
Mon Jan 31 00:05:21 EST 2011


Thats kind of cool, I was going to hack out a DT driver for Access32,
but knowing little about Python I barely got anywhere. Good luck!

alex

On 1/30/11, Lowell Prange <lowell at schat.com> wrote:
> The low battery cause you email to be sorted year 2000.  People that
> sort email by date will not likely see the message.
>
> On 1/6/2000 2:34 PM, Carlos Fernandez wrote:
>> I don't know if this will get through, but I'm working on a way to
>> interface my copy of dectalk access
>> 32 to nvda. So far, the voices show up as phantoms, but one time I managed
>> to get Dennis
>> talking. Then my computer turned off because of low battery.
>> On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 11:44:00 -0800,  wrote:
>>
>>
>>> ?Yep, when the Sapi Dectalk comes out, I'll be sure to buy it.
>>> And it would be cool to use it with JFW or NVDA.
>>> I think a lot of people on the NVDA mailing list will be happy when the
>>> Sapi
>>> version of Dectalk comes out, since a lot of people in there don't like
>>> ESpeak.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Alex H."<linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions"<dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 11:26 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Adding words to Dectalk dictionary
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I think that list is a pretty complete, i don't know a lot about how
>>>> the dictionary actually works but know hponemes pretty well. Hopefully
>>>> this can be implimented.
>>>>
>>>> I have afew questions.
>>>>
>>>> Will a users be able to sing with the Sapi dectalk
>>>> What version is this based on of dectalk?
>>>> Wht will be the cost of this synth?
>>>>
>>>> thanks!
>>>> Alex
>>>>
>>>> On 1/25/11, Jayson Smith<ratguy at insightbb.com>  wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> As for getting the word out, here's one thought. As many of you
>>>>> probably
>>>>> know, RSGames is a free service offering Internet multi-player
>>>>> Monopoly,
>>>>> Uno, Yahtzee and Blackjack games which are totally accessible to the
>>>>> blind
>>>>> using a special client. This client runs on Windows, Mac, and Linux. It
>>>>> works directly with most popular screen readers. Recently RSGames
>>>>> started
>>>>> running text advertisements in order to defray the costs of running the
>>>>> service. Ads cost $15 per month and reach a targeted audience of blind
>>>>> gamers. Anyone interested in an ad can hit a single keystroke to have a
>>>>> copy
>>>>> of that ad Emailed to them, along with a web link to obtain more
>>>>> information
>>>>> about the product or service. Payments should be made via Paypal. For
>>>>> more
>>>>> info about RSGames, go to www.rsgames.co.nr, and to ask about ads,
>>>>> write
>>>>> to
>>>>> rsgames at gmail.com. When constructing your ad, you should provide a
>>>>> website
>>>>> where potential customers can get more info.
>>>>>
>>>>> Other ways of reaching out would be Twitter, Facebook, etc. Obviously
>>>>> this
>>>>> list. Fred's Head, Top Tech Tidbits on Thursday, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, a few questions. Is this going to be a Fonix product? Any estimate
>>>>> on a
>>>>> release date? Price? Will it have an exceptions dictionary? Imho it
>>>>> should.
>>>>> Also imho novice users should be able to use standard misspelling
>>>>> techniques
>>>>> to adjust the pronunciation, but advanced DECtalk geeks should be able
>>>>> to
>>>>> get down to the phoneme level if they wish.
>>>>>
>>>>> Another thing that always bugged me about DECtalk is that the end user
>>>>> didn't have access to the d phoneme used in regular speech. Thus, when
>>>>> using
>>>>> a custom pronunciation dictionary or making DECtalk sing, the d sounds
>>>>> always sounded a bit weird. Is this going to be fixed?
>>>>> Thanks, and I look forward to playing with this!
>>>>> Jayson
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From:<Dectalk at aol.com>
>>>>> To:<dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 10:33 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Adding words to Dectalk dictionary
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi guys!  I'll be in charge of the Dectalk  dictionary, but I don't
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> anything yet.  If it will do phrases, this  won't be a problem.  But,
>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>> thinking that the dictionary is single word  only.  So I have no clue
>>>>>> how
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> handle double pronunciations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One question I have is, is there a control character  that appears as
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> space, that I could use as a command for an alternative
>>>>>> pronunciation?
>>>>>> I
>>>>>>
>>>>>> know
>>>>>> in one Dectalk  version it was control something, but I can't remember
>>>>>> what
>>>>>> it  was.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would live to stay away from a visible command so it  won't show up
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> document.  I have no clue how.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have another question.  If E-voice still  existed, I could let
>>>>>> everyone
>>>>>> know about the Dectalk SAPI 5 within hours.   I miss E-voice to no
>>>>>> end!
>>>>>> So
>>>>>> on the internet, what is the best way to get  the word out about this
>>>>>> SAPI
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 5?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In a message dated 1/24/2011 9:37:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>>>>> musicalman1 at comcast.net writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, I  am not familiar with the Dectalk dictionary in any way, but
>>>>>> those
>>>>>> kinds of  rules would not be easy to implement even if such a
>>>>>> dictionary
>>>>>> existed. I  believe most synths that can pronounce words two different
>>>>>> ways
>>>>>> use  context clues to figure out which pronunciation to use. For
>>>>>> instance,
>>>>>> read  has two pronunciations, as you know. For example:
>>>>>> you should read the book  by Thursday.
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> The book should be read by Thursday.
>>>>>> You could  probably just put phrases in the dictionary, and changing
>>>>>> their
>>>>>> pronunciations accordingly. That is, if the Dectalk dictionary
>>>>>> supports
>>>>>> phrases, which it should although i'm just guessing here. This might
>>>>>> work
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> the example you mentioned, as putting words in front of record would
>>>>>> determine how it is pronounced. For example, you would never say, the
>>>>>> re-cord. So it is safe to change this in the dictionary. you could
>>>>>> probably
>>>>>> do that for a lot of different word combinations and it would be
>>>>>> pretty
>>>>>> accurate. Adding all these rules would take a lot of time, and you
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> have to be careful with it. If the Dectalk dictionary supports
>>>>>> context
>>>>>> clues
>>>>>> though, I wouldn't know how you would help it determine  which
>>>>>> pronunciation
>>>>>> is correct.
>>>>>> These are just my thoughts. I don't  know how accurate this is, but I
>>>>>> am
>>>>>> pretty sure it is a good work-around  if no other can be found.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Blake  Roberts"<beroberts at hughes.net>
>>>>>> To: "'DECtalk Discussions'"<dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 8:31  PM
>>>>>> Subject: [DECtalk] Adding words to Dectalk dictionary
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi  all,
>>>>>>> Snoopi and I have been involved with the Dectalk SAPI project for
>>>>>>> several
>>>>>>> months now. I am happy to report that a SAPI Dectalk is  nearing
>>>>>>> reality.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The project leader gave Snoopi the task of  adding words to the
>>>>>>> Dectalk
>>>>>>> dictionary. Specifically, enabling Dectalk  to say the same word two
>>>>>>> different ways, such as record. Does anyone  have ideas on how the
>>>>>>> Dectalk
>>>>>>> dictionary can be modified so that  Dectalk will know when to use
>>>>>> different
>>>>>>> pronunciations for the same  word?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know Snoopi is on this list. I am writing on his  behalf because
>>>>>>> Snoopi
>>>>>>> asked me to inquire of people familiar with  Dectalk. Any advice
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>>> Blake
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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