[DECtalk] Adding words to Dectalk dictionary

Lowell Prange lowell at schat.com
Sun Jan 30 15:41:21 EST 2011


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On 1/6/2000 2:34 PM, Carlos Fernandez wrote:
> I don't know if this will get through, but I'm working on a way to interface my copy of dectalk access
> 32 to nvda. So far, the voices show up as phantoms, but one time I managed to get Dennis
> talking. Then my computer turned off because of low battery.
> On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 11:44:00 -0800,  wrote:
>
>
>> ?Yep, when the Sapi Dectalk comes out, I'll be sure to buy it.
>> And it would be cool to use it with JFW or NVDA.
>> I think a lot of people on the NVDA mailing list will be happy when the Sapi
>> version of Dectalk comes out, since a lot of people in there don't like
>> ESpeak.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Alex H."<linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
>> To: "DECtalk Discussions"<dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 11:26 AM
>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Adding words to Dectalk dictionary
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I think that list is a pretty complete, i don't know a lot about how
>>> the dictionary actually works but know hponemes pretty well. Hopefully
>>> this can be implimented.
>>>
>>> I have afew questions.
>>>
>>> Will a users be able to sing with the Sapi dectalk
>>> What version is this based on of dectalk?
>>> Wht will be the cost of this synth?
>>>
>>> thanks!
>>> Alex
>>>
>>> On 1/25/11, Jayson Smith<ratguy at insightbb.com>  wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> As for getting the word out, here's one thought. As many of you probably
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>>>> using a special client. This client runs on Windows, Mac, and Linux. It
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>>>> gamers. Anyone interested in an ad can hit a single keystroke to have a
>>>> copy
>>>> of that ad Emailed to them, along with a web link to obtain more
>>>> information
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>>>> more
>>>> info about RSGames, go to www.rsgames.co.nr, and to ask about ads, write
>>>> to
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>>>> website
>>>> where potential customers can get more info.
>>>>
>>>> Other ways of reaching out would be Twitter, Facebook, etc. Obviously
>>>> this
>>>> list. Fred's Head, Top Tech Tidbits on Thursday, etc.
>>>>
>>>> Now, a few questions. Is this going to be a Fonix product? Any estimate
>>>> on a
>>>> release date? Price? Will it have an exceptions dictionary? Imho it
>>>> should.
>>>> Also imho novice users should be able to use standard misspelling
>>>> techniques
>>>> to adjust the pronunciation, but advanced DECtalk geeks should be able to
>>>> get down to the phoneme level if they wish.
>>>>
>>>> Another thing that always bugged me about DECtalk is that the end user
>>>> didn't have access to the d phoneme used in regular speech. Thus, when
>>>> using
>>>> a custom pronunciation dictionary or making DECtalk sing, the d sounds
>>>> always sounded a bit weird. Is this going to be fixed?
>>>> Thanks, and I look forward to playing with this!
>>>> Jayson
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From:<Dectalk at aol.com>
>>>> To:<dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 10:33 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Adding words to Dectalk dictionary
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi guys!  I'll be in charge of the Dectalk  dictionary, but I don't have
>>>>> anything yet.  If it will do phrases, this  won't be a problem.  But,
>>>>> I'm
>>>>> thinking that the dictionary is single word  only.  So I have no clue
>>>>> how
>>>>> to
>>>>> handle double pronunciations.
>>>>>
>>>>> One question I have is, is there a control character  that appears as a
>>>>> space, that I could use as a command for an alternative  pronunciation?
>>>>> I
>>>>>
>>>>> know
>>>>> in one Dectalk  version it was control something, but I can't remember
>>>>> what
>>>>> it  was.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would live to stay away from a visible command so it  won't show up in
>>>>> a
>>>>> document.  I have no clue how.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have another question.  If E-voice still  existed, I could let
>>>>> everyone
>>>>> know about the Dectalk SAPI 5 within hours.   I miss E-voice to no end!
>>>>> So
>>>>> on the internet, what is the best way to get  the word out about this
>>>>> SAPI
>>>>>
>>>>> 5?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In a message dated 1/24/2011 9:37:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>>>> musicalman1 at comcast.net writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, I  am not familiar with the Dectalk dictionary in any way, but
>>>>> those
>>>>> kinds of  rules would not be easy to implement even if such a dictionary
>>>>> existed. I  believe most synths that can pronounce words two different
>>>>> ways
>>>>> use  context clues to figure out which pronunciation to use. For
>>>>> instance,
>>>>> read  has two pronunciations, as you know. For example:
>>>>> you should read the book  by Thursday.
>>>>> or
>>>>> The book should be read by Thursday.
>>>>> You could  probably just put phrases in the dictionary, and changing
>>>>> their
>>>>> pronunciations accordingly. That is, if the Dectalk dictionary supports
>>>>> phrases, which it should although i'm just guessing here. This might
>>>>> work
>>>>> in
>>>>> the example you mentioned, as putting words in front of record would
>>>>> determine how it is pronounced. For example, you would never say, the
>>>>> re-cord. So it is safe to change this in the dictionary. you could
>>>>> probably
>>>>> do that for a lot of different word combinations and it would be  pretty
>>>>> accurate. Adding all these rules would take a lot of time, and you
>>>>> would
>>>>> have to be careful with it. If the Dectalk dictionary supports  context
>>>>> clues
>>>>> though, I wouldn't know how you would help it determine  which
>>>>> pronunciation
>>>>> is correct.
>>>>> These are just my thoughts. I don't  know how accurate this is, but I am
>>>>> pretty sure it is a good work-around  if no other can be found.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Blake  Roberts"<beroberts at hughes.net>
>>>>> To: "'DECtalk Discussions'"<dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 8:31  PM
>>>>> Subject: [DECtalk] Adding words to Dectalk dictionary
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi  all,
>>>>>> Snoopi and I have been involved with the Dectalk SAPI project for
>>>>>> several
>>>>>> months now. I am happy to report that a SAPI Dectalk is  nearing
>>>>>> reality.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The project leader gave Snoopi the task of  adding words to the Dectalk
>>>>>> dictionary. Specifically, enabling Dectalk  to say the same word two
>>>>>> different ways, such as record. Does anyone  have ideas on how the
>>>>>> Dectalk
>>>>>> dictionary can be modified so that  Dectalk will know when to use
>>>>> different
>>>>>> pronunciations for the same  word?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know Snoopi is on this list. I am writing on his  behalf because
>>>>>> Snoopi
>>>>>> asked me to inquire of people familiar with  Dectalk. Any advice would
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>> Blake
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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