[DECtalk] speaking of dectalk

ebruckert Bruckert edbruckert at gmail.com
Mon Jan 3 13:23:10 EST 2011


possibility, but there are issues about gain issus int he vocal tract. I
will write it up later so you can decide.

On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Jayson Smith <ratguy at insightbb.com> wrote:

> One other request I think others would agree with. I think the end user
> should be able to specify a set of speech parameters the SAPI voice should
> use, no matter what the speaking application says. JFW, for instance,
> doesn't allow you to set probably even half the parameters DECtalk has
> available. It'd be nice to be able to set things like [:dv pr 250] [:dv sr
> 50]
> Jayson
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ebruckert Bruckert" <edbruckert at gmail.com>
> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>  Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 10:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] speaking of dectalk
>
>
> > Too old, the other languages were not good.
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Brandon Misch <bmisch2002 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> will this have more than one language speaking of languages.
> >>
> >>  On Jan 3, 2011, at 8:46 AM, ebruckert Bruckert wrote:
> >>
> >>  First, why not both wave and MP3 no big deal.
> >> The version I ent is an olf one but I can't remeber the date. But I'm
> >> sure
> >> you'll all have a chnace to critic it.  What I find interesting is that
> >> except for the implementatopn OF Ken Syevens HLSYN model the changes in
> >> the
> >> English were relatively minor, but which people are very sensitive to.
> >> Even
> >> when I had both source codes togather abd could compare them we couldn't
> >> make them sound the same to long time listeners. We couldn't usee the
> old
> >> code as mosy of the changes were structural to suport multipple
> languages
> >> more practically.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Jayson Smith
> >> <ratguy at insightbb.com>wrote:
> >>
> >>>  Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I have to disagree here. MP3 compression is lossy. While it might be
> >>> argued
> >>> that not much might get lost where DECtalk is concerned, I feel it
> >>> should
> >>> be
> >>> left up to the user in question whether to convert to MP3. Remember,
> >>> since
> >>> MP3 is a lossy format, what is lost in the conversion to MP3 is lost
> >>> forever
> >>> and can never be recovered, not even by converting back to wav.
> >>> Not only that, but the MP3 technology is covered by various patents, so
> >>> allowing it to be used would no doubt cost the developers money for
> each
> >>> copy they sold.
> >>> Jayson
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Johnny Lam" <johnnybrl at gmail.com>
> >>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
> >>>  Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 10:38 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] speaking of dectalk
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > hi, I think they should replace the convert to wav to mp3 instead.
> >>> > Since
> >>> > Wav
> >>> > files take up more room than mp3 does.
> >>> > ----- Original Message -----
> >>> > From: "Jayson Smith" <ratguy at insightbb.com>
> >>> > To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
> >>> > Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 4:53 PM
> >>> > Subject: Re: [DECtalk] speaking of dectalk
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >> Hi,
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I'd like to point out something here. As far as I know, the SAPI
> >>> version
> >>> >> of
> >>> >> DECtalk hasn't been developed yet. The design for the thing may not
> >>> even
> >>> >> be
> >>> >> finalized yet. So there are going to be lots of questions for which
> >>> >> nobody,
> >>> >> and I mean absolutely nobody, knows the answer. When will it be out?
> >>> How
> >>> >> much will it cost? How big will it be? Will there be any new DECtalk
> >>> >> functionality?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> One thing I'd love to see is an updated speak program like speak43,
> >>> which
> >>> >> doesn't have a size limit on the file you can load into it as
> Speak43
> >>> >> does.
> >>> >> Also, I'd love to see the "Convert to wav" option reenabled.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Jayson
> >>> >>
> >>> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> >> From: "Brandon Misch" <bmisch2002 at gmail.com>
> >>> >> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
> >>> >> Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 7:39 PM
> >>> >> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] speaking of dectalk
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>> thanks for the comments. i see what you mean. when this gets
> >>> >>> through,
> >>> >>> all
> >>> >>> my screen readers will finaly have a voice for dectalk and even
> nvda
> >>> >>> users
> >>> >>> will be able to take advantage of this. can't wait. wonder how big
> >>> >>> the
> >>> >>> download would be.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> On Jan 2, 2011, at 6:46 PM, Blake Roberts wrote:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>> Brandon, I myself see no need for a Jaws Dectalk driver, being
> that
> >>> >>>> a
> >>> >>>> SAPI5
> >>> >>>> version of Dectalk will be created. Dectalk can then be accessed
> by
> >>> >>>> switching Jaws synth from Eloquence to SAPI5. That's a very
> >>> interesting
> >>> >>>> point you make about whether or not the SAPI5 Dectalk will also be
> >>> >>>> SAPI4-compatible. I have noticed that some SAPI5 synthesizers also
> >>> work
> >>> >>>> as
> >>> >>>> SAPI4 voices. I've never understood how a voice can be SAPI5 and
> >>> SAPI4
> >>> >>>> at
> >>> >>>> the same time.
> >>> >>>> These are just my thoughts. I know my comments do not adequately
> >>> answer
> >>> >>>> your
> >>> >>>> questions.
> >>> >>>> Blake
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> >>>> From: dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com
> >>> >>>> [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Brandon
> >>> Misch
> >>> >>>> Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 5:58 PM
> >>> >>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
> >>> >>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] speaking of dectalk
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> will this be backwards compatible to sapi 4 or a new version of
> >>> >>>> dectalk?
> >>> >>>> maybe there should be a jaws driver that works with this directly
> >>> since
> >>> >>>> access 32 is broken.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> On Jan 2, 2011, at 5:05 PM, Corine Bickley wrote:
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> Ed has kindly sent the CD we need to start to Enable Rehab. Now we
> >>> >>>> need to finalize some paperwork and then we can get started. MANY
> >>> >>>> THANKS
> >>> >>>> ED!!!
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Brandon Misch
> >>> >>>> <bmisch2002 at gmail.com>
> >>> >>>> wrote:
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> Hey this is Brandon. whatever happened to someone creating a
> >>> >>>> sapi 5 version of dectalk? never heard back on this list about it.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>>
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